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Postby lakes10 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:17 pm

yes or no and why.

so many of you are posting that we need a change so lets see the stats.
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 pm

I voted no.

he has too much history with the club and should be given more time.
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Postby tubby » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 pm

I voted yes. Whilst he will always be an iconic figurehead for the club, keeping him on is only going to tarnish his legacy. I've seen how some fans can turn on managers and I don't want to see that happen. But mostly I think there are better options out there to take us forward and as a club we need to use our heads.
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:23 pm

It's not really as simple as that imo. After Rafa's last year and project owl we left ourselves with a LOT of rebuilding to do. It's hard to judge progress after this short stint with Kenny and I fear we may be jumping the gun and turning into a mid table Chelsea should we give Kenny the bullet

On the other hand Kenny's signings leave a lot to be desired and I'm questioning whether I would trust him with any more funds. I fear he doesn't have a great understanding of players outside of the country and that bit of flair and ability to unlock the defence is sorely missing.

Throughout the season our football has been generally good and if we'd scored more of the times we'd hit the post we could easily be looking at a totally different season

I voted no but I've got one eye of Jurgen Klopp...
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:24 pm

tubby wrote:I voted yes. Whilst he will always be an iconic figurehead for the club, keeping him on is only going to tarnish his legacy. I've seen how some fans can turn on managers and I don't want to see that happen. But mostly I think there are better options out there to take us forward and as a club we need to use our heads.

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Postby LFC2007 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:29 pm

Yes, bring in AVB. He did a fantastic ob at Chelsea and would have us challenging for the title within a season. If that fails, bring back Roy.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:30 pm

No
We are not chelsea and we stick together through the hard times
I think theres a song the supporters sing about unity in perilous situations." You'll never....something, something?"
People who voted yes should read the words and listen to this song. Im pretty sure it doesnt say "We only support each other when we are doing well"?
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Postby parchpea » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:33 pm

I voted yes but I doubt he will go.

Trouble is its never that simple at Liverpool because its always an emotion charged decision rather than hard cold facts.

In the real football world an elite and important club would not put up with this but we always look for a reason not to sack people.

Will Fenway have the bottle to can Dalglish? I dont think they will, but they should yes.
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Postby D___C » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:34 pm

No

Yes the English transfer dealings have been poor, but hes only had one crack, he deserves another.
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Postby stmichael » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:37 pm

Not a chance. Kenny has made some pretty poor mistakes but we are not Chelsea ffs. If we're in this situation this time next year then I'll discuss it. What's the point of giving him a 3 year contract if you don't give him that time to build a team he wants in his image? His future is being discussed 2 weeks after winning the club's first trophy in 6 years. Seriously?

Listen I'm not happy with the League form but for all this man has done for the Club he deserves the chance to put it right.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:43 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:No
We are not chelsea and we stick together through the hard times
I think theres a song the supporters sing about unity in perilous situations." You'll never....something, something?"
People who voted yes should read the words and listen to this song. Im pretty sure it doesnt say "We only support each other when we are doing well"?
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Pretty much the reason I voted no ,short memories ,have these people never had the patience to queue for something
they believe is worth waiting for ?
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:44 pm

stmichael wrote:Not a chance. Kenny has made some pretty poor mistakes but we are not Chelsea ffs. If we're in this situation this time next year then I'll discuss it. What's the point of giving him a 3 year contract if you don't give him that time to build a team he wants in his image? His future is being discussed 2 weeks after winning the club's first trophy in 6 years. Seriously?

Listen I'm not happy with the League form but for all this man has done for the Club he deserves the chance to put it right.

We've won 2 games in the last 11 in the league...that's relegation form. What's more, we're on the verge of dropping out of the top 10!
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Postby Wee_Didit » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:47 pm

Totally agree that we're not the Chavs. So, it's a big NO from me.

He needs more time, and I can't understand why we'd even consider a new manager after only his 1st full season.
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Postby stmichael » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:57 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
stmichael wrote:Not a chance. Kenny has made some pretty poor mistakes but we are not Chelsea ffs. If we're in this situation this time next year then I'll discuss it. What's the point of giving him a 3 year contract if you don't give him that time to build a team he wants in his image? His future is being discussed 2 weeks after winning the club's first trophy in 6 years. Seriously?

Listen I'm not happy with the League form but for all this man has done for the Club he deserves the chance to put it right.

We've won 2 games in the last 11 in the league...that's relegation form. What's more, we're on the verge of dropping out of the top 10!


and yet beat the bitters in the week and our form may turn. you just don't know in football. two weeks ago everyone had written wenger's obituary. since then he's smashed spurs and milan and beat us and looks on course for 4th now.

i'll ask you a question. if we finish say 6th or 7th this season and yet win the carling and fa cup, would you class that as a failure? if you say yes i find that quite staggering.
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Postby aCe' » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:58 pm

Voted no.
Season can still swing either way as far as I'm concerned.

On the one hand, if we win the FA cup then this goes down as a 'double' winning season and I dont understand how anyone would consider that as 'unacceptable'.
As far as progress is concerned, I believe we HAVE improved this season in most departments and could very well challenge for a top4 spot next season. Individually, players like Skrtel, Agger, Bellamy and Suarez all seem to be playing very good football and again credit should go to the manager in that regard. Also, if some of the new players in the side are as bad as myself and many seem to think they are (Adam, Henderson, Carroll) then surely Kenny did a fantastic job progressing in the cups as far as he did and maintaining a top4 challenge until early March. Bottom line is, if we win the FA cup, then its a good season regardless of our failures in the league. We've already guaranteed a Europa league spot and I think we should focus on the FA cup now and use the league to try and figure out where we go with certain players for next season.

On the other hand, obviously we've made mistakes with most of our buys and we've wasted big big money at a vital time on average players. League results have been poor by any standard and the fact that the difference between us and 15th place is only 6 points with so little remaining is worrying. If we fail to progress further in the FA cup and continue our slump in the league then the fact that we won the Carling Cup in February will be no more than a distant memory and the pressure on the manager towards the end of the season might force the board to take action.
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