Job too big for Rodgers?

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Is the job too big for Rodgers and last season was a flash in the pan down to Suarez carrying us?

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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu May 14, 2015 3:36 pm

Reg » Wed May 13, 2015 9:29 pm wrote:I wonder if the Taleban's available on friday to stone him to death?


Do they only work on Friday  :;):
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Postby Boocity » Thu May 14, 2015 4:13 pm

Ben Patrick » Thu May 14, 2015 12:45 pm wrote:I am a bit baffled by this thread.

When I looked at the league table before we where 5th.
It is the position we will most likely finish in.

Since we last won the league and during the premier league era our average position (correct me if I am wronng) is 6th or 7th.

So we are likely to finish in a stronger position than we usually would.

Now the negatives.

We almost won the league last season and have dropped from 2nd to 5th in one season.
We have been shambolic in europe and blew the FA cup semi final against a side we should have been beating.

That doesnt look or sound good, and I am not happy about it.
Do I think Rodgers is a fraud and needs sacking though ?
No.
There have been mitigating circumstances though.
We lost our best player to Barca and then lost our other main source of goals to injury for virtually the whole season.
With Sturridge fit I have no doubts we would have made the top 4.
We can be critical of leaving the squad with the striking options we had but I honestly believe that signing a top draw striker would not have been easy for the manager and the board.
A season coming 5th and getting to semis of both the domestic cups is below what we wanted or expected at the start of the season.
But lets be realistic it is not catastrophic.
I think the manager deserves another season.
If we can bring in the attacking players we need we have every chance of getting back amongst the top - given we are not a million miles away even now.
In this league for me you need goals and to attack sides. We have not had these and dropped an awful lot of points against sides that we wouldnt have if we had had the at least 1 fit top end striker.
Rodgers has shown last season and in the second half of the season before that with quality attacking players he can set the side up to demolish the majority of sides in the Premiership.
That's the aim for next season for me.

Many managers have gone on a run of good results but it doesn't make them someone I want running our team, you have to perform over a season which is something he cannot do, do you really want to hear him in Oct saying we will come good in the second half of the year again, well I don't.

He makes too many weird and stupid decisions, goals have been really hard to come by lately and SG has been coming to our resue, why then would you make the decision to pull him against Chelsea just to get an ovation he didn't want in a game we had to win to keep our hope of CL alive, stupid, I am beginning to think that Mourinho told him it would be a good idea and went along with him as he is in awe of him.
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Postby maguskwt » Thu May 14, 2015 4:43 pm

Ben Patrick » Thu May 14, 2015 12:45 pm wrote:I am a bit baffled by this thread.

When I looked at the league table before we where 5th.
It is the position we will most likely finish in.

Since we last won the league and during the premier league era our average position (correct me if I am wronng) is 6th or 7th.

So we are likely to finish in a stronger position than we usually would.

Now the negatives.

We almost won the league last season and have dropped from 2nd to 5th in one season.
We have been shambolic in europe and blew the FA cup semi final against a side we should have been beating.

That doesnt look or sound good, and I am not happy about it.
Do I think Rodgers is a fraud and needs sacking though ?
No.
There have been mitigating circumstances though.
We lost our best player to Barca and then lost our other main source of goals to injury for virtually the whole season.
With Sturridge fit I have no doubts we would have made the top 4.
We can be critical of leaving the squad with the striking options we had but I honestly believe that signing a top draw striker would not have been easy for the manager and the board.
A season coming 5th and getting to semis of both the domestic cups is below what we wanted or expected at the start of the season.
But lets be realistic it is not catastrophic.
I think the manager deserves another season.
If we can bring in the attacking players we need we have every chance of getting back amongst the top - given we are not a million miles away even now.
In this league for me you need goals and to attack sides. We have not had these and dropped an awful lot of points against sides that we wouldnt have if we had had the at least 1 fit top end striker.
Rodgers has shown last season and in the second half of the season before that with quality attacking players he can set the side up to demolish the majority of sides in the Premiership.
That's the aim for next season for me.

No no, non of your explanations are valid and the sooner the clown is sacked the better...

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Postby Kash_Mountain » Thu May 14, 2015 5:44 pm

Nope, LS leaving is just another excuse, as is the Sturridge situation.

You see, he knew LS was leaving over 12 months before he went to Barca, and did nothing about it. He  knew Sturridge was injury prone, yet did nothing about it.

He doesn't plan ahead, and never will, if, as some want mediocrity, the BR is the man for that.

Btw, apart from the media (and some on here) who else is backing him?

In all honesty, BR is the reason LFCs squad is  essentially, only good enough for 5th  position .LFC actually spent massive amounts of money in last summer, yet the club a has gone backwards.  So, why do some people keep making/finding every excuse possible to defend BR? He is the reason for LFC  dropping out of the top 4. It's his ineptitude that caused all the issues.  It's as if some are constantly wearing rose tints and can't see the wood for the trees. People can see the issues but  for some reason, find someone/anyone else but BR (the man in charge)  to blame.
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Postby Dundreamin is back » Thu May 14, 2015 6:06 pm

- given we are not a million miles away even now. Ben I think a BILLION miles away is more nearer the mark.
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Postby RedAnt » Thu May 14, 2015 6:29 pm

Dundreamin is back » Thu May 14, 2015 5:06 pm wrote:- given we are not a million miles away even now. Ben I think a BILLION miles away is more nearer the mark.


I agree. Forget all the conspiracy theories, but the amount of players that need moving on and bringing in means we aren't close at all. There's still a great deal to be done in training. We still need alternative tactics so we can mix it up a bit. It sounds like there's loads to do on the business side too. Do some believe that a striker or two will see us sorted?
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Postby Kopite-Jud » Thu May 14, 2015 6:59 pm

"It would be negligent of any ambitious club not to consider the merits of Klopp, who is looking for a new challenge this summer"

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Couldn't agree more.  Whether any of you like it or not you cannot ignore the availability of Klopp. 

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Postby devaney » Thu May 14, 2015 7:51 pm

Borussia Dortmund are currently 13 points off the bottom and 33 points off the top of the Bundesliga. Yes I can hear the excuses now. He's had to sell his best players. Lets face it if that is our position with 6 games to play next season and Klopp is our manager the WHINGING COMMITTEE that want him now will want him sacked !!!!!
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Postby Santa » Thu May 14, 2015 8:26 pm

Well tbh no one can predict nor guarantee how Klopp would fare in PL but one thing is for sure, if he does join then it would be a brand new start for us and gives us a chance to fight for honours both home & abroad. With Brendan, we can expect more of the same but it seems that mediocrity are acceptable standard these days for those BRENDAN APOLOGIST  ???

One thing that I'm sure about...those "we played well and I'm proud of my players and they show great spirit, when we just lost badly" kind of bullshit surely won't be missed and BR should stop embarrassing this club any further
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Postby devaney » Thu May 14, 2015 8:34 pm

And it wont stop you from writing the same derogatory shight next season if Klopp doesnt succeed.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 14, 2015 8:39 pm

If this transfer committee of ours get their @rse into gear and stop looking at bench fodder like Fonte and Milner and bring in Kovacic + a quality striker we'll be fine.
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Thu May 14, 2015 8:42 pm

devaney » May 14th, '15, 19:51 wrote:Borussia Dortmund are currently 13 points off the bottom and 33 points off the top of the Bundesliga. Yes I can hear the excuses now. He's had to sell his best players. Lets face it if that is our position with 6 games to play next season and Klopp is our manager the WHINGING COMMITTEE that want him now will want him sacked !!!!!



Oh, just stop it!  Klopp is a top quality manager. Klopp has had 6 or so very good seasons, and  1 bad one. But in that time, he won the BL etc, despite having to sell his best players to rivals....he's knows how to work with players.

If LFC had Klopp, the club would have made the top 4 this season. Whilst every team in the EPL has done their utmost to chuck it away, allowing Chelski to get away with the  EPL title easily. If the club had even a half decent manager, LFC would be  in the top 4. A top quality boss like Klopp would have made LFC title challengers.  The only reason LFC failed to make top 4 this season is BR. He has failed at LFC.

So, surely LFC should be going for a manager who has more than one good season?  LFC made a big mistake going for BR. If the club want to go with an inexperienced manager, then appoint from within the club.  That is why Rodolfo Borrell should have been appointed instead of BR. Now, it may not have worked out for him, but at least he knew the club.
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Thu May 14, 2015 8:49 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » May 14th, '15, 20:39 wrote:If this transfer committee of ours get their @rse into gear and stop looking at bench fodder like Fonte and Milner and bring in Kovacic + a quality striker we'll be fine.



Obviously LFC can't Rate Kovacic that highly, otherwise  their sporting director would nt  have laughed at LFCs   "funny little joke" of an offer. Also, BR can't attract top quality players.
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Postby Kopite-Jud » Thu May 14, 2015 8:56 pm

Klopp has honours. He would change the complexity of this football club all together

He's having a bad season. Yes. But he's just knocked Bayern out of the cup and got to the cup final

His passion and enthusiasm is refreshing.

He wouldn't continue to play ***** players every week. He wouldn't play players out of positions every week.

He'd also be an attraction for people to join this club .

all of the above Rodgers doesn't have....  When will people wake up and smell the facts. Rodgers is a muppet. 1st man in 50 years to not win a trophy within 3 years, with over 200 million spent.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Thu May 14, 2015 9:01 pm

How are we a million miles away ? We are 6 points off fourth. Like I said its not what we wanted and is disappointing after the highs of last season. But 5th is better than our average finish over the last 20 seasons.
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