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[the lone wolf]

i wouldnt want carroll as first team but having him there as an option would make us stronger!!

man city play a passing game and use dzeko as an option, whats the diffrence?

Exactly couldnt agree more. Its like he wont change systems because it will prove his philosophy isnt working. You need a plan B for fecksake.

We'll never know what was said between Carroll and BR at the start of pre-season. One thing is for sure, respect has to be earned.
Imagine this newly employed, young, inexperienced football manager explaining to a young, cocking, over-paid young Kid that he doesn't fit into 'his style' of football? ON WHO'S SAID SO...
It wouldn't suprise me if Carroll took one glance over to BR and said something on the lines of;
WHO THE F&*k ARE YOU TO EXPLAIN FOOTBALL TO ME? KING KENNY BROUGHT ME HERE AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE FOOTBALLING WORLD. OH, AND BY THE WAY WHAT THE F*&K HAVE YOU WON IN FOOTBALL? I'VE BEEN TO WEMBLEY TWICE AND ONCE AS A WINNER YOU D&*K!
End of his carreer at LFC...
We'll never know.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

heimdall

Yes but one of Carroll's weaknesses was constantly being in the wrong place at the wrong time! He is NOT a good striker and never will be. All you guys thinking that if he was with us now we'd be scoring for fun are delusional, do you not remember how fecking awfull he was for us last season??
In Jan we'l bring in a good striker, I'm sure of that and then we'll start climbing the table rapidly. I am seeing improvement all the time but the next step is to get everyone in the midfield scoring more goals and it sounds like Brendan is well aware of that and I hope it's something that's being worked on.

he wasnt awful for us last season, he finished the season as probably our best player!
i agree that carroll is never probably going to be a 30 goals a season man because as you say he doesnt have that goal poachers instinct but that doesnt mean he cant be an important player for us. last season a lot of his best games were games he didnt score in like that F.A cup game against united, the derby at anfield and the chelsea game at anfield when john terry described him as unplayable.
carroll may not score 30 in a season but he`d weigh in with 10-15 goals, probably a similar amount of assists and give defenders all the trouble that they could handle.
i think our strikers need a carroll up front, i think the likes of borini would much rather have carroll in the centre of our attack than suarez, suarez is great but he`s a selfish player.
our attack is playing like a collection of 3 individuals and not a unit, carrolls natural game is to hold the ball up in heavy traffic and to lay it off, he doesnt want to try and take the world on on his own like luis. i honestly believe the likes of suarez, sterling and borini would score more goals working off carrolls knock downs, flicks on`s etc than they would by trying to work together.
we need a presense up front, we are too lightweight at the moment.
hand on heart which attack do you think would cause defences more trouble -

                                          sterling       suarez        suso                or               sterling      carroll      suarez

[redalltheway36]

i wouldnt want carroll as first team but having him there as an option would make us stronger!!

man city play a passing game and use dzeko as an option, whats the diffrence?

Exactly couldnt agree more. Its like he wont change systems because it will prove his philosophy isnt working. You need a plan B for fecksake.

We'll never know what was said between Carroll and BR at the start of pre-season. One thing is for sure, respect has to be earned.
Imagine this newly employed, young, inexperienced football manager explaining to a young, cocking, over-paid young Kid that he doesn't fit into 'his style' of football? ON WHO'S SAID SO...
It wouldn't suprise me if Carroll took one glance over to BR and said something on the lines of;
WHO THE F&*k ARE YOU TO EXPLAIN FOOTBALL TO ME? KING KENNY BROUGHT ME HERE AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE FOOTBALLING WORLD. OH, AND BY THE WAY WHAT THE F*&K HAVE YOU WON IN FOOTBALL? I'VE BEEN TO WEMBLEY TWICE AND ONCE AS A WINNER YOU D&*K!
End of his carreer at LFC...
We'll never know.

Sorry mate your wrong. i agree carroll probably did have a spat at brendan but for fecksake why didnt brendan just say everyone in the squad will get a chance instead of saying i wouldnt be against carroll going out on loan. That statement i believe was the major factor in the total feckup thats between the pair. And plus how can you judge without even seeing if carroll can adjust to his style. yes you can assume he wont but in my opinion he wasnt even given a chance.

[the lone wolf]

We'll never know what was said between Carroll and BR at the start of pre-season. One thing is for sure, respect has to be earned.
Imagine this newly employed, young, inexperienced football manager explaining to a young, cocking, over-paid young Kid that he doesn't fit into 'his style' of football? ON WHO'S SAID SO...
It wouldn't suprise me if Carroll took one glance over to BR and said something on the lines of;
WHO THE F&*k ARE YOU TO EXPLAIN FOOTBALL TO ME? KING KENNY BROUGHT ME HERE AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE FOOTBALLING WORLD. OH, AND BY THE WAY WHAT THE F*&K HAVE YOU WON IN FOOTBALL? I'VE BEEN TO WEMBLEY TWICE AND ONCE AS A WINNER YOU D&*K!
End of his carreer at LFC...
We'll never know.[/quote]
Sorry mate your wrong. i agree carroll probably did have a spat at brendan but for fecksake why didnt brendan just say everyone in the squad will get a chance instead of saying i wouldnt be against carroll going out on loan. That statement i believe was the major factor in the total feckup thats between the pair. And plus how can you judge without even seeing if carroll can adjust to his style. yes you can assume he wont but in my opinion he wasnt even given a chance.[/quote]

My exact point - so there MUST be a reason why he wasn't given a chance and we'll never know what that was... Hiding behind 'Style of Play' is just a smoke screen.

[redalltheway36]

We'll never know what was said between Carroll and BR at the start of pre-season. One thing is for sure, respect has to be earned.
Imagine this newly employed, young, inexperienced football manager explaining to a young, cocking, over-paid young Kid that he doesn't fit into 'his style' of football? ON WHO'S SAID SO...
It wouldn't suprise me if Carroll took one glance over to BR and said something on the lines of;
WHO THE F&*k ARE YOU TO EXPLAIN FOOTBALL TO ME? KING KENNY BROUGHT ME HERE AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE FOOTBALLING WORLD. OH, AND BY THE WAY WHAT THE F*&K HAVE YOU WON IN FOOTBALL? I'VE BEEN TO WEMBLEY TWICE AND ONCE AS A WINNER YOU D&*K!
End of his carreer at LFC...
We'll never know.

Sorry mate your wrong. i agree carroll probably did have a spat at brendan but for fecksake why didnt brendan just say everyone in the squad will get a chance instead of saying i wouldnt be against carroll going out on loan. That statement i believe was the major factor in the total feckup thats between the pair. And plus how can you judge without even seeing if carroll can adjust to his style. yes you can assume he wont but in my opinion he wasnt even given a chance.[/quote]

My exact point - so there MUST be a reason why he wasn't given a chance and we'll never know what that was... Hiding behind 'Style of Play' is just a smoke screen.[/quote]                                                                                                                                                                                   
Maybe or maybe brendan was just honest from the start and said he wasnt part of his plans.

[dundreamin]

What about when he said he would be mad to get rid of Carroll statement?? = HE IS MAD!

[dundreamin]

What about when he said he would be mad to get rid of Carroll statement?? = HE IS MAD!

[alwayslfc]

Liverpool now in its' sorry state, 10 pts from 9 games certainly needs another Bill Shankly to revive back to its' glories of the 70s and 80s. Let's hope Brendan can be the man to be the next Shanks. But first, he has to clear a lot of the mess created by previous managers and learn from his mistakes like the transfer blunders. Only time can tell (at least 2 more seasons) whether he can revive the club. Right now, the squad esp. the strkers' department is not a threat to any side. Like I've said many times, if FSG are not willing to invest heavily, there's is nothing much Brendan can do even if he is the next Shankly. FSG main focus now is developing the youngsters and hope they will mature to become good in due time, but what's the point if you cannot qualify for CL pretty soon? All your star names will leave and worst still, your upcoming youngsters could also want to leave as well and we'll be forever stuck in a Work In Progress team (scary thought).

That is why I'm curious to see how much FSG are willing to fund Brendan over the next 2 windows.

[Octsky]

Liverpool now in its' sorry state, 10 pts from 9 games certainly needs another Bill Shankly to revive back to its' glories of the 70s and 80s. Let's hope Brendan can be the man to be the next Shanks. But first, he has to clear a lot of the mess created by previous managers and learn from his mistakes like the transfer blunders. Only time can tell (at least 2 more seasons) whether he can revive the club. Right now, the squad esp. the strkers' department is not a threat to any side. Like I've said many times, if FSG are not willing to invest heavily, there's is nothing much Brendan can do even if he is the next Shankly. FSG main focus now is developing the youngsters and hope they will mature to become good in due time, but what's the point if you cannot qualify for CL pretty soon? All your star names will leave and worst still, your upcoming youngsters could also want to leave as well and we'll be forever stuck in a Work In Progress team (scary thought).

That is why I'm curious to see how much FSG are willing to fund Brendan over the next 2 windows.

funny that you mentioned shankly and money in the same statement. i think they were mutually exclusive. shankly dont have a lot of money to build us up. i think you meant we need the next morinho and lots of money.

[LFC1990]

Wow this forum changes quick. After the Everton game we was all praising Brendan now after he fielded a weakened side against Swansea in the cup were back to slagging the man off.

Some people are bringing Andy Carroll into it.

Guys either support the man on all his descions right or wrong or dont support him at all

[The Raven]

Wow this forum changes quick. After the Everton game we was all praising Brendan now after he fielded a weakened side against Swansea in the cup were back to slagging the man off.

Some people are bringing Andy Carroll into it.

Guys either support the man on all his descions right or wrong or dont support him at all

DONT BE STUPID

Did you even read the posts? BR came out and said we lost as we only have one striker.......which is his fault. hence the stick he is getting and why carroll is brought into it.

blind faith? lol yeah support everything he does not matter how mad? you do that fir uncle roy did you?

[LFC1990]

Wow this forum changes quick. After the Everton game we was all praising Brendan now after he fielded a weakened side against Swansea in the cup were back to slagging the man off.

Some people are bringing Andy Carroll into it.

Guys either support the man on all his descions right or wrong or dont support him at all

DONT BE STUPID

Did you even read the posts? BR came out and said we lost as we only have one striker.......which is his fault. hence the stick he is getting and why carroll is brought into it.

blind faith? lol yeah support everything he does not matter how mad? you do that fir uncle roy did you?

In which way is it Rodgers fault? He was under the impression he was getting a striker on deadline day so sanctioned the Carroll move if the owners or whoever didnt stump up the cash you cant really look bad on Kenny through it. Plus he said we only have one striker which is true now Borini is fuking injured.

Yes I did support Roy, I knew he wasnt the man for the job but i still supported him because he was Liverpools manager.

Im looking forward to your response if we win Sunday v Newcastle

[SouthCoastShankly]

Wow this forum changes quick. After the Everton game we was all praising Brendan now after he fielded a weakened side against Swansea in the cup were back to slagging the man off.

Some people are bringing Andy Carroll into it.

Guys either support the man on all his descions right or wrong or dont support him at all

DONT BE STUPID

Did you even read the posts? BR came out and said we lost as we only have one striker.......which is his fault. hence the stick he is getting and why carroll is brought into it.

blind faith? lol yeah support everything he does not matter how mad? you do that fir uncle roy did you?

You and your chumps are the ones being stupid mate.

Despite the fact that Rodgers did not see a future for Carroll, he also said after the transfer window debacle that if he had known all pursuits of other striker were to fail that he would not have let Andy Carroll leave.

The Carroll cock-up was not Rodgers fault, it was a LFC board problem which in my opinion firmly falls on the local management. Ian Ayres.

Rodgers will keep making reference to the fact he only has one striker because that is the situation he has been dealt with, through no fault of his own. He got shafted.

[Thommo's perm]

Wow this forum changes quick. After the Everton game we was all praising Brendan now after he fielded a weakened side against Swansea in the cup were back to slagging the man off.

Some people are bringing Andy Carroll into it.

Guys either support the man on all his descions right or wrong or dont support him at all

DONT BE STUPID

Did you even read the posts? BR came out and said we lost as we only have one striker.......which is his fault. hence the stick he is getting and why carroll is brought into it.

blind faith? lol yeah support everything he does not matter how mad? you do that fir uncle roy did you?

In which way is it Rodgers fault? He was under the impression he was getting a striker on deadline day so sanctioned the Carroll move if the owners or whoever didnt stump up the cash you cant really look bad on Kenny through it. Plus he said we only have one striker which is true now Borini is fuking injured.

Yes I did support Roy, I knew he wasnt the man for the job but i still supported him because he was Liverpools manager.

Im looking forward to your response if we win Sunday v Newcastle

Would, shoulda, coulda! If me auntie had balls she'd be my uncle!
We have what we have (until january) and we keep going. The swansea game is the first one Ive seen under Rodgers where we were sh'ite. We have been beaten but not like that, and it had fu'ck all to do with Carroll.
Lets keep calm and support the team, because if we dont its going to be a cold, cold winter...

[Thommo's perm]

Wow this forum changes quick. After the Everton game we was all praising Brendan now after he fielded a weakened side against Swansea in the cup were back to slagging the man off.

Some people are bringing Andy Carroll into it.

Guys either support the man on all his descions right or wrong or dont support him at all

DONT BE STUPID

Did you even read the posts? BR came out and said we lost as we only have one striker.......which is his fault. hence the stick he is getting and why carroll is brought into it.

blind faith? lol yeah support everything he does not matter how mad? you do that fir uncle roy did you?

In which way is it Rodgers fault? He was under the impression he was getting a striker on deadline day so sanctioned the Carroll move if the owners or whoever didnt stump up the cash you cant really look bad on Kenny through it. Plus he said we only have one striker which is true now Borini is fuking injured.

Yes I did support Roy, I knew he wasnt the man for the job but i still supported him because he was Liverpools manager.

Im looking forward to your response if we win Sunday v Newcastle

Would, shoulda, coulda! If me auntie had balls she'd be my uncle!
We have what we have (until january) and we keep going. The swansea game is the first one Ive seen under Rodgers where we were sh'ite. We have been beaten but not like that, and it had fu'ck all to do with Carroll.
Lets keep calm and support the team, because if we dont its going to be a cold, cold winter...