Brendan Rodgers thread (signs extended contract)

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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:12 pm

Boxscarf » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:59 pm wrote:
The Hustler » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:24 pm wrote:Im afraid Brendan, and not the yanks, will take the flak now  if we don't get the right results.


Yes then they'll no doubt sack him like they did with Dalglish and bring in somebody else and repeat cycle again and again and again. They're blithering idiots.


So as manger you've been dealt a cack hand, still doesn't explain why you threw away a trio of "Jacks"  (Carrol, Bellamy and Kuyt) in the hope that you might pick up a flush ?
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Postby Boxscarf » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:16 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:12 pm wrote:
So as manger you've been dealt a cack hand, still doesn't explain why you threw away a trio of "Jacks"  (Carrol, Bellamy and Kuyt) in the hope that you might pick up a flush ?


Kuyt wanted to leave, he has stated he wanted a new challenge. Bellamy wanted to go back to Cardiff and Carroll as much as I like hasn't been a success here and won't ever fit into Rodgers's style. Rodgers's only boo boo in this transfer window was agreeing to have Andy loaned out and then not bringing in someone else. That said it would appear that this club couldn't afford to offer Fulham £7m for Dempsey, they had to throw Henderson into the mix. That says more about FSG than it does about Brendan.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:19 pm

what happened yesterday wasnt the managers fault.
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Postby tubby » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:20 pm

Woof no one knows the details of what went on but we do know Rogers wanted to get another striker in and he even said he would be crazy to sell Andy without a replacement. At that point I think he was fairly confident on getting in Dempsey but the dynamic of the situation obviously changed over the course of the day hence the 2 planned medicals that never happened. Not sure why you are taking such a sharp view on Rogers. Is this anger over the fact he replaced Kenny? Personally I think it's a bit weak of a fan to be making such accusation and observsations after the season has only just begun. And everyone knows that up until the window shuts things are always a bit cagey.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:26 pm

This gives the media yet another opportunity to ridicule us. Tomorrows papers will be full of sh'it about how we were  bombed out by spurs becuse we wouldnt pay an extra 2 mill. Has beens - etc etc.
If the owners want a positive image portraying then theyre going the wrong way about it.
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Postby tubby » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:29 pm

Thommo's perm » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:26 pm wrote:This gives the media yet another opportunity to ridicule us. Tomorrows papers will be full of sh'it about how we were  bombed out by spurs becuse we wouldnt pay an extra 2 mill. Has beens - etc etc.
If the owners want a positive image portraying then theyre going the wrong way about it.
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Spurs got booed off today.  :laugh:

But yeah as usual we look like a joke. I wish the director of communications could start doing his f*cking job. He was probably sat on twitter following all the other transfers and forgot he's working for a club now.
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Postby red till i die!! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:32 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:38 pm wrote:Am I the only one that's less than impressed with Rodgers ?

F'uck all the talk about the owners and lets stop looking for excuses for the new manager.

I'm a long way from being impressed with his performance so far , many have commented on his straight talking style, SFW ? talk is cheap, it's performance and results that us as fans should be concerned with.

Performance wise under Rodgers we've looked a lot tidier and ball retention has been better, a cause for celebration ?  :no . All well and good having the ball BUT it's what you do with it that actually counts and so far with the ball we've done fk all. At Anfield against Hearts, a team that would struggle in the English second tier, we had 70% of the possession and yet managed only four shots on target  :p

Against Man City at home we managed to get 49% of possession and just 3 shots on target, ok they are the current champs so some may be happy with a point but I believe that was gained from the players raising their game rather than any PLAN the new manager had.

We finally arrive at the end of the transfer window and Rodgers through his dismal transfer activity has thinned out the squad almost to the point where there will come a time in the rest of the season when we will struggle to even field eleven players that could be described as senior.

And before any of you start, don't f'ucking talk to me about Rodgers lack of funds. If you don't have the money to buy in new blood, as manager yer put yer foot down and refuse to release the likes of Bellamy, Kuyt and Carrol even if they don't fit your "plan"

Honeymoon's over Mr Rodgers I want points on the board and not platitudes.


agreed woof.
so many are getting their excuses ready and it will only get worse if things start to go bad.
as the manager it was rodgers who is tasked with getting the squad he wants in time for the season and its him that has left us thin.he has already spent close on 30mil for borini,allen,assaidi and the young german striker.thats not including what it cost to release him and his entire backroom staff from swansea not forgetting what we paid out on the termination of kenny and his.that lot probably brings us over the 40mil mark this summer.
i have no problem with his signings and think they will be good here but i cannot bring myself to understand why he got rid of carroll and didnt replace him.the fact that it was dempsey only makes it worse as we were linked with him for so long and despite him declaring on transfer day that he wanted to come here we still managed to fook it up.what makes it worse is that we got 1mil for loaning carroll,4 for adam,undisclosed for eccleston and with the rest of the cull lowered the wage bill by a further couple of hundred grand a week and yet we think we can bid 3 mil less than the accepted bid and still sign the player.
he is fenways man who claims to have full control over matters so i dont believe they would risk their relationship with him over the extra 2 mil we needed to sign him.he obviously thought sturridge was a cert and tried a cheeky bid to fulham but alls he's got is egg on his face and a bigger task ahead.
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:00 pm

tubby » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:20 pm wrote:Woof no one knows the details of what went on but we do know Rogers wanted to get another striker in and he even said he would be crazy to sell Andy without a replacement. At that point I think he was fairly confident on getting in Dempsey but the dynamic of the situation obviously changed over the course of the day hence the 2 planned medicals that never happened. Not sure why you are taking such a sharp view on Rogers. Is this anger over the fact he replaced Kenny? Personally I think it's a bit weak of a fan to be making such accusation and observsations after the season has only just begun. And everyone knows that up until the window shuts things are always a bit cagey.


Cheers for the reasoned response Tubbs.

My "sharp" view on Rodgers is in no way related to the fact that he replaced Kenny, truth be told although he steadied us in a time of crisis I was never sure that Kenny was the man to take us forward.

My "sharp" view on Rodgers is ignited by the fact that so many supporters are seemingly rushing to support and make excuses for a manager who arrived on the last "Ferry cross the Mersey" and has so far done fk all for me to get excited about his tenure other than he's not Roy Hodgson . By all means lets give the fella time BUT c'mon even in these early days lets not be shy in expressing our real concerns about some of his decisions. To arrive at a point where we are starting a season with only one striker of any recognised quality is a f'ucking joke. I don't give a f'uck about any restrictions Rodgers may have had on his spending power, bottom line is under his so far brief tenure he's released players that don't fit his "plan" and left us with virtually no options.

Maybe he thinks we're that good that like Spain we can play without strikers ?   :laugh: .
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Postby tubby » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:15 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:00 pm wrote:
tubby » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:20 pm wrote:Woof no one knows the details of what went on but we do know Rogers wanted to get another striker in and he even said he would be crazy to sell Andy without a replacement. At that point I think he was fairly confident on getting in Dempsey but the dynamic of the situation obviously changed over the course of the day hence the 2 planned medicals that never happened. Not sure why you are taking such a sharp view on Rogers. Is this anger over the fact he replaced Kenny? Personally I think it's a bit weak of a fan to be making such accusation and observsations after the season has only just begun. And everyone knows that up until the window shuts things are always a bit cagey.


Cheers for the reasoned response Tubbs.

My "sharp" view on Rodgers is in no way related to the fact that he replaced Kenny, truth be told although he steadied us in a time of crisis I was never sure that Kenny was the man to take us forward.

My "sharp" view on Rodgers is ignited by the fact that so many supporters are seemingly rushing to support and make excuses for a manager who arrived on the last "Ferry cross the Mersey" and has so far done fk all for me to get excited about his tenure other than he's not Roy Hodgson . By all means lets give the fella time BUT c'mon even in these early days lets not be shy in expressing our real concerns about some of his decisions. To arrive at a point where we are starting a season with only one striker of any recognised quality is a f'ucking joke. I don't give a f'uck about any restrictions Rodgers may have had on his spending power, bottom line is under his so far brief tenure he's released players that don't fit his "plan" and left us with virtually no options.

Maybe he thinks we're that good that like Spain we can play without strikers ?   :laugh: .


:wwww  :wwww maybe that's his plan...

I think we need until December before making any real judgments about his ability to manage this team.  He's trying to build something big here so for the moment I think everyone needs to get behind him as much as possible. I'm not going to gloss over any short comings and we should call them out.
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Postby The Hustler » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:20 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:38 pm wrote:Am I the only one that's less than impressed with Rodgers ?

F'uck all the talk about the owners and lets stop looking for excuses for the new manager.

I'm a long way from being impressed with his performance so far , many have commented on his straight talking style, SFW ? talk is cheap, it's performance and results that us as fans should be concerned with.



That is the most sense I've heard yet. The transfer shannanigans was Rodgers fault and not the Yanks. Reason being, Brendan  would have been told what the money situation was for Dempsey, and as a result would not have let Carroll go out on loan if he didn't have any cash available to bring another striker in. That is down to the manager only.

I was worried (at first) when we brought two Swansea players in (Allen + Ex loanee Borini) as they have not played at this level much.

of the West Brom game, two V Hearts and Man City, I have been mostly concerned over the lack of shots on goal/ on target, which is not acceptable. Not including the ones Suarez scuffs after doing the hard bit.
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Postby Redman in wales » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:14 pm

The Hustler » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:20 pm wrote:
woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:38 pm wrote:Am I the only one that's less than impressed with Rodgers ?

F'uck all the talk about the owners and lets stop looking for excuses for the new manager.

I'm a long way from being impressed with his performance so far , many have commented on his straight talking style, SFW ? talk is cheap, it's performance and results that us as fans should be concerned with.



That is the most sense I've heard yet. The transfer shannanigans was Rodgers fault and not the Yanks. Reason being, Brendan  would have been told what the money situation was for Dempsey, and as a result would not have let Carroll go out on loan if he didn't have any cash available to bring another striker in. That is down to the manager only.


Isn't that a condradiction? saying if brendan knew about how much he had for dempsey he would not have let carroll on loan if he had money available -

But he DID allow carroll to go on loan, so he must have been told there was enough money for dempsey - either the owners lied, or he was mis-informed - but he wouldn't have let carroll go on loan if he didnt have money to bring anyone in. - that's not his fault. - no manager on the earth wants to lessen his striking options
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Postby celtic-red! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:32 pm

Redman in wales » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:14 pm wrote:
The Hustler » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:20 pm wrote:
woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:38 pm wrote:Am I the only one that's less than impressed with Rodgers ?

F'uck all the talk about the owners and lets stop looking for excuses for the new manager.

I'm a long way from being impressed with his performance so far , many have commented on his straight talking style, SFW ? talk is cheap, it's performance and results that us as fans should be concerned with.



That is the most sense I've heard yet. The transfer shannanigans was Rodgers fault and not the Yanks. Reason being, Brendan  would have been told what the money situation was for Dempsey, and as a result would not have let Carroll go out on loan if he didn't have any cash available to bring another striker in. That is down to the manager only.



Isn't that a condradiction? saying if brendan knew about how much he had for dempsey he would not have let carroll on loan if he had money available -

But he DID allow carroll to go on loan, so he must have been told there was enough money for dempsey - either the owners lied, or he was mis-informed - but he wouldn't have let carroll go on loan if he didnt have money to bring anyone in. - that's not his fault. - no manager on the earth wants to lessen his striking options


Or he had zero confidence in Carroll was he was prepared to take a gamble of trying to get in a replacement @ the last minute.  Brendan took a gamble and it didnt work out but I dont think he regrets letting carroll going as he clearly doesnt rate his ability.

ask yourself this.  Why did Caroll change his mind?

He could of went to west ham weeks ago but said he wanted to fight for his place.  He position was exactly the same on Thursday or was he told that he had no future @ liverpool and should leave?
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:37 pm

celtic-red! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:32 pm wrote:  Brendan took a gamble and it didnt work out but I dont think he regrets letting carroll going as he clearly doesnt rate his ability.


Which puts him on a par with many in this forum  :wwww  Clearly we have a problem .

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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:37 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:38 pm wrote:Am I the only one that's less than impressed with Rodgers ?

F'uck all the talk about the owners and lets stop looking for excuses for the new manager.

I'm a long way from being impressed with his performance so far , many have commented on his straight talking style, SFW ? talk is cheap, it's performance and results that us as fans should be concerned with.

Performance wise under Rodgers we've looked a lot tidier and ball retention has been better, a cause for celebration ?  :no . All well and good having the ball BUT it's what you do with it that actually counts and so far with the ball we've done fk all. At Anfield against Hearts, a team that would struggle in the English second tier, we had 70% of the possession and yet managed only four shots on target  :p

Against Man City at home we managed to get 49% of possession and just 3 shots on target, ok they are the current champs so some may be happy with a point but I believe that was gained from the players raising their game rather than any PLAN the new manager had.

We finally arrive at the end of the transfer window and Rodgers through his dismal transfer activity has thinned out the squad almost to the point where there will come a time in the rest of the season when we will struggle to even field eleven players that could be described as senior.

And before any of you start, don't f'ucking talk to me about Rodgers lack of funds. If you don't have the money to buy in new blood, as manager yer put yer foot down and refuse to release the likes of Bellamy, Kuyt and Carrol even if they don't fit your "plan"

Honeymoon's over Mr Rodgers I want points on the board and not platitudes.


Not too sure if we have the funds to spend Woof  :D
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:40 pm

maypaxvobiscum » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:37 pm wrote:Not too sure if we have the funds to spend Woof  :D


:Oo:

Like I said

And before any of you start, don't f'ucking talk to me about Rodgers lack of funds. If you don't have the money to buy in new blood, as manager yer put yer foot down and refuse to release the likes of Bellamy, Kuyt and Carrol even if they don't fit your "plan"
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