Thewaykokid wrote:it appears i have F@rked the title, its meant to say "can we win the premier league with our current squad?"
Owzat wrote:Thewaykokid wrote:it appears i have F@rked the title, its meant to say "can we win the premier league with our current squad?"
Should have reduced "premier league title" to "league", I think we'd all get which league.
Anyway, I don't see how the question that has been posed in various forms over the past weeks/months has changed any. We were all basing our title speculation on the current squad, I don't believe (m)any were basing it on us signing Villa, Barry, Simao, Heskey, Glen Johnson etc in January.
Funnily enough I was just going to that story link to post the story, just as well I checked this thread first. Someone else may still post it as a separate story.
Can we win the league? Of course we can, match Man Utd and Chelsea's results/points until the end of the season and we're top. 'Can' isn't really the issue, at the start of a season anyone 'can' win the league if they play well enough over 38 games
Will we win the league? Hard to say right now, the mancs are two games in hand to catch up to within a point and we have to play them away*. I believe Arsenal were top this time last year, the serious title contenders remain in it until the latter quarter of the season and we're not there yet. If we're still there with 8-10 games to go then I'd say we're as good, or near enough, as anyone else in the league and have a chance.
*I've said this plenty of times, the reason being it could prove to be extremely important. That game away could be pivotal to the title race.
Owzat wrote:As for not signing anyone. We don't often splash out lots in January, we seemingly wasted £40m or thereabouts in the summer so I'm not sure wasting more in January will help. One key signing might help our title challenge, but where the money would come from is anyone's guess. If we sold half a dozen players we might fund a £15m-£20m signing, but if they're players we don't want then we're not too likely to get top dollar for them - and we'd be reducing the squad size. Take out players like Lucas, Dossena, Babel and Benayoun (with maybe another two or three to make up a significant enough fund) then you'd be losing at least three players who have played in a few games this season. Who would fill in for them?
Lucas - 19 appearances (1 goal)
Dossena - 16 appearances
Babel - 22 appearances (3 goals)
Benayoun - 22 appearances (1 goal)
They've appeared about 20 times each this season so whether you deem their contribution poor, indifferent or fantastic, those roles would have to be filled by someone - even substitute roles. Do we have an abundance of players who haven't been used much this season to fill in? Pennant? I'd guess any who haven't already played 10-20 times this season wouldn't be our choices to fill in and those could be sold to by just a replacement or two.
Thewaykokid wrote:Owzat wrote:Thewaykokid wrote:it appears i have F@rked the title, its meant to say "can we win the premier league with our current squad?"
Should have reduced "premier league title" to "league", I think we'd all get which league.
Anyway, I don't see how the question that has been posed in various forms over the past weeks/months has changed any. We were all basing our title speculation on the current squad, I don't believe (m)any were basing it on us signing Villa, Barry, Simao, Heskey, Glen Johnson etc in January.
Funnily enough I was just going to that story link to post the story, just as well I checked this thread first. Someone else may still post it as a separate story.
Can we win the league? Of course we can, match Man Utd and Chelsea's results/points until the end of the season and we're top. 'Can' isn't really the issue, at the start of a season anyone 'can' win the league if they play well enough over 38 games
Will we win the league? Hard to say right now, the mancs are two games in hand to catch up to within a point and we have to play them away*. I believe Arsenal were top this time last year, the serious title contenders remain in it until the latter quarter of the season and we're not there yet. If we're still there with 8-10 games to go then I'd say we're as good, or near enough, as anyone else in the league and have a chance.
*I've said this plenty of times, the reason being it could prove to be extremely important. That game away could be pivotal to the title race.
i can understand where you're coming from, i mean, the question has been posed a lot. My question was more into looking at the depth of our squad, like as in can we afford to play babel, lucas and benayoun as subs when chelsea have the advantage of replacing drogba with anelka, or kalou for joe cole, or any which way you see it, chelsea and partially manure have these world class players on their bench and im not sure when the champions league and such kick in we will have the squad depth to keep up.
DanAn wrote:Thewaykokid wrote:Owzat wrote:Thewaykokid wrote:it appears i have F@rked the title, its meant to say "can we win the premier league with our current squad?"
Should have reduced "premier league title" to "league", I think we'd all get which league.
Anyway, I don't see how the question that has been posed in various forms over the past weeks/months has changed any. We were all basing our title speculation on the current squad, I don't believe (m)any were basing it on us signing Villa, Barry, Simao, Heskey, Glen Johnson etc in January.
Funnily enough I was just going to that story link to post the story, just as well I checked this thread first. Someone else may still post it as a separate story.
Can we win the league? Of course we can, match Man Utd and Chelsea's results/points until the end of the season and we're top. 'Can' isn't really the issue, at the start of a season anyone 'can' win the league if they play well enough over 38 games
Will we win the league? Hard to say right now, the mancs are two games in hand to catch up to within a point and we have to play them away*. I believe Arsenal were top this time last year, the serious title contenders remain in it until the latter quarter of the season and we're not there yet. If we're still there with 8-10 games to go then I'd say we're as good, or near enough, as anyone else in the league and have a chance.
*I've said this plenty of times, the reason being it could prove to be extremely important. That game away could be pivotal to the title race.
i can understand where you're coming from, i mean, the question has been posed a lot. My question was more into looking at the depth of our squad, like as in can we afford to play babel, lucas and benayoun as subs when chelsea have the advantage of replacing drogba with anelka, or kalou for joe cole, or any which way you see it, chelsea and partially manure have these world class players on their bench and im not sure when the champions league and such kick in we will have the squad depth to keep up.
I reckon that's bollox though. Looking at the lists we are no that far behind:
Torres = Drogba
Anelka > Keane
Kalou = Kuyt
Babel = Kalouda
Gerrard = Lampard
Alonso = Ballack
Masherano = Essien
Obi Mikel > Lucas
Deco > Benayoun
Cole = Riera
Carragher = Terry
Skrttle < Carvalho
Agger > Alex
Hyppia > Mancienne
Arbeloa < Bosingwa
Aureleo < Cole
Degen < Belletti
Insua = Ferriera
The only place IMO chelsea have significantly better players is in the fullback positions. I think there depth extrodinary depth compared to us is a bit of a myth.
Thewaykokid wrote:Get your point there, but i think your list is a bit.....optimistic . Come on, Joe Cole and Riera equal? I mean, personal opinions first and even though i like Riera i think Joe Cole is all over him.
DanAn wrote:Thewaykokid wrote:Get your point there, but i think your list is a bit.....optimistic . Come on, Joe Cole and Riera equal? I mean, personal opinions first and even though i like Riera i think Joe Cole is all over him.
Granted Cole is better but IMO I rate them close enough to equal. Just as Gerrard is better than Lampard but again it's close enough to equal for the comparison sake
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