Liverpool FC Forum

by **andy_g** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:30 pm

red37, no offence intended, but why don't you write your posts in a version of english that is easy to read and understand rather than posting a series of malapropisms and convoluted, over complex sentences that make little sense?

i agree with you though...

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:47 pm

thats a lot to take in on a sunday Red

by **LFC2007** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:12 pm

red37 wrote:Isn't it painful to bear witness.

The hawking of this clubs security and wellbeing around and about the world hoping that some minted (not to mention well intentioned) Investor/benefactor/Tom Dick and Harry will salivate over the prospect enthusiastically enough to table a bid...Firstly to remove the ones that don't fit the bill. And secondly to ensure that LFC actually can compete in the marketplace again at some stage in the near future. Has the point of no return arrived where, they don't necessarily have to be 'supporters' of Liverpool - so long as their pockets are suitably lined with gold. And they are willing to ride out the storm for long enough in order to redress the status quo? Even at the expense of delaying a decent return until the Rainbow's end is realised?

In any case, does such criteria factor in to the equation 'that' negatively when there isn't a single tenuous link to familiarity left behind anymore to fight for its cause? The supporters remain a constant...possibly the manager. But who is left, other than outside organisations such as S.O.S that are both willing and partly able to rise up against the almost insurmountable rock thats being placed between all our dreams - weighed against the fear of mediocrity. Each passing season decreases the level of real optimism and erodes away any sense of a stout foothold on that path to the summit of victory and the injustice of how it appears to manifest itself like a cancer betwixt and between the very fabric of everything Liverpool FC stood for and precariously hopes to replicate one day soon. Solely down to the internal wrangling thats bound to have a devastating outcome, should resolution not arrive - Fast.

Sad, desperate times...

Considering the fact that this club was once a giant amongst its contemporaries - its certainly fallen a fair way from grace when the issue is no longer about maintaining the equilibrium of a balanced, effective football team that had an ethos of both winning and keeping its house in good order. But more and more about playing second fiddle - season upon season until the coffers are swollen sufficiently.

The future stability of this Football club is entirely dependent on the largesse of a group/co-operation of fellows intent on underpinning the foundations all over again - paying their dues in Blood, sweat and tears equal to any measure of financial expenditure before that effort can even begin to emulate a solid basis requisite to adding to the history that went a great distance in achieving the good name of this club on the pitch.... It now finds itself open to almost anyone and every method available in order to unearth the reality of a second era of prolonged and viable success. Simply in order to hold any visions of matching its peers, never mind dominating them once again...such is the state of football in present times. Such is the bloody mess that has befallen us.

There has to be change on a massive scale. Both on and off the pitch if we are ever to see golden sky's over Anfield and its thereabouts once more.

Shame and eternal shame, nothing but shame!
Let us die in honour: once more back again;
And he that will not follow Bourbon now,
Let him go hence, and with his cap in hand,
Like a base pander, hold the chamber-door
Whilst by a slave, no gentler than my dog,
His fairest daughter is contaminated.

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:28 pm

Henry the fifth ....... on a Sunday!

by **Number 9** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:33 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:Manhattan has been studying this issue in depth for quite some time.

What do Liverpool need?

1- We need someone wealthy.

2- We need someone who lives here.

It's obvious isn't it?

It's simple.

Manhattan knows who should buy Liverpool Football Club.

Sheikaltoum arabababt Elizabeth

by **tubby** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:35 pm

Is she always trying to raise money to fix Buckingham Palace? Thats why they open it to the public now sometimes. She would be as bad as Hicks and Gillete. lol

by **kazza** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:51 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Shame and eternal shame, nothing but shame!
Let us die in honour: once more back again;
And he that will not follow Bourbon now,
Let him go hence, and with his cap in hand,
Like a base pander, hold the chamber-door
Whilst by a slave, no gentler than my dog,
His fairest daughter is contaminated.

There once was a man from Nantucket..

by **Igor Zidane** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:21 pm

red37 wrote:Isn't it painful to bear witness.

The hawking of this clubs security and wellbeing around and about the world hoping that some minted (not to mention well intentioned) Investor/benefactor/Tom Dick and Harry will salivate over the prospect enthusiastically enough to table a bid...Firstly to remove the ones that don't fit the bill. And secondly to ensure that LFC actually can compete in the marketplace again at some stage in the near future. Has the point of no return arrived where, they don't necessarily have to be 'supporters' of Liverpool - so long as their pockets are suitably lined with gold. And they are willing to ride out the storm for long enough in order to redress the status quo? Even at the expense of delaying a decent return until the Rainbow's end is realised?

In any case, does such criteria factor in to the equation 'that' negatively when there isn't a single tenuous link to familiarity left behind anymore to fight for its cause? The supporters remain a constant...possibly the manager. But who is left, other than outside organisations such as S.O.S that are both willing and partly able to rise up against the almost insurmountable rock thats being placed between all our dreams - weighed against the fear of mediocrity. Each passing season decreases the level of real optimism and erodes away any sense of a stout foothold on that path to the summit of victory and the injustice of how it appears to manifest itself like a cancer betwixt and between the very fabric of everything Liverpool FC stood for and precariously hopes to replicate one day soon. Solely down to the internal wrangling thats bound to have a devastating outcome, should resolution not arrive - Fast.

Sad, desperate times...

Considering the fact that this club was once a giant amongst its contemporaries - its certainly fallen a fair way from grace when the issue is no longer about maintaining the equilibrium of a balanced, effective football team that had an ethos of both winning and keeping its house in good order. But more and more about playing second fiddle - season upon season until the coffers are swollen sufficiently.

The future stability of this Football club is entirely dependent on the largesse of a group/co-operation of fellows intent on underpinning the foundations all over again - paying their dues in Blood, sweat and tears equal to any measure of financial expenditure before that effort can even begin to emulate a solid basis requisite to adding to the history that went a great distance in achieving the good name of this club on the pitch.... It now finds itself open to almost anyone and every method available in order to unearth the reality of a second era of prolonged and viable success. Simply in order to hold any visions of matching its peers, never mind dominating them once again...such is the state of football in present times. Such is the bloody mess that has befallen us.

There has to be change on a massive scale. Both on and off the pitch if we are ever to see golden sky's over Anfield and its thereabouts once more.

Brilliant post mate.

It's such a sad and sorry tale , but so true. :down:

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:46 am

The future stability of this Football club is entirely dependent on the largesse of a group/co-operation of fellows intent on underpinning the foundations all over again - paying their dues in Blood, sweat and tears equal to any measure of financial expenditure before that effort can even begin to emulate a solid basis requisite to adding to the history that went a great distance in achieving the good name of this club on the pitch.... It now finds itself open to almost anyone and every method available in order to unearth the reality of a second era of prolonged and viable success. Simply in order to hold any visions of matching its peers, never mind dominating them once again...such is the state of football in present times. Such is the bloody mess that has befallen us.

Not just us, look at Man City. The Premiership itself has now become a commercial brand. Will the "39th" game abroad become a reality? We'll soon see, if it does, then we can kiss goodbye to english football as we know it. This league is based on money and greed, if it wasnt, we wouldnt be in our position of trouble, nor Man City, nor Man Utd....

by **metalhead** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:11 pm

Ciggy, interesting to see that Prince AlWaleed is interested in investing. He has loads of cash, richer than Sheikh Al Maktoum, plus his history in investment is an excellent one.

He is also half lebanese

by **Reg** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:53 pm

To take this theme off on a slight tangent:

If you compare pictures of Rafa today with when he arrived 4 years ago, the fella looks exhausted and overweight, if not worn out.

He´s had a number of battles to fight, first to bring in his initial batch of mainly Spaniards and gel them into a new team, then to compete with the pressure from cash flush Chelsea and ManUre. On the plus side he had the success of the 2005 CL victory and various other cups to create and maintain positive momentum, the fulkl support of the team and core players like Gerrard and Carra.

"Some" of the pressure has been self created, the persistent rotation policy when many advised against it, he lost Paco and most of his Boot Room over the past 2 years, he took on the new owners head to head and realising he narrowly escaped the order of the boot, now chooses to clash with Rick Parry, another wounded beast. At the same time he´s allowed speculation surrounding his own future to linger on and taken to talking through the press. Despite spending heavily, criticism remains that the team still lacks depth.

I´m a Rafa fan, the lad´s put the fight back into the club and given us hope for the future and I want him to take up back to the top. Unfortunately its coinciding with the American Inbreds being owners but I wonder where Rafa is heading, is he going to continue fighting all-comers, get further overweight and eventually have a heart attack (like our GED), or will he have a breakdown (like our Kenny) or will he storm out having gone bonkers (like our Roy?) How is he going to survive, never mind win, get back into shape and still be incontrol in 15 years and in good health?

Even Sir Whiskynose has stopped attacking him which is very odd........

by **Rush Job** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:13 am

Ive said it before, if we had a top CEO we'd be in much better shape even with the yanks. Think of the players we've missed out on because of his dithering and thats not going into the comercial side where he's just as :censored:

. Rafa is doing his job with both hands tied having to constantly wait on coco to pull his finger out, yet who carrys the can. You can only imagine how different things would be if we had someone like Kenon. Bit of a t!t but streets apart from fkin coco.

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:53 am

Rush Job wrote:Ive said it before, if we had a top CEO we'd be in much better shape even with the yanks. Think of the players we've missed out on because of his dithering and thats not going into the comercial side where he's just as . Rafa is doing his job with both hands tied having to constantly wait on coco to pull his finger out, yet who carrys the can. You can only imagine how different things would be if we had someone like Kenon. Bit of a t!t but streets apart from fkin coco.

Im not so sure, the manager, regardless of what is said picks the signings of potential players. "coco" is trying to sign them players. Keane first and then Barry. Even we as supporters have our limit. This must be the first season, since rafa has taken over, that I am doubting the man himself (rafa). He seems desperate to me with his targets. I can hope with every game that passes, but I cant help but feel this will be rafas last season with us.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:11 am

Kharhaz wrote:
Rush Job wrote:Ive said it before, if we had a top CEO we'd be in much better shape even with the yanks. Think of the players we've missed out on because of his dithering and thats not going into the comercial side where he's just as . Rafa is doing his job with both hands tied having to constantly wait on coco to pull his finger out, yet who carrys the can. You can only imagine how different things would be if we had someone like Kenon. Bit of a t!t but streets apart from fkin coco.

Im not so sure, the manager, regardless of what is said picks the signings of potential players. "coco" is trying to sign them players. Keane first and then Barry. Even we as supporters have our limit. This must be the first season, since rafa has taken over, that I am doubting the man himself (rafa). He seems desperate to me with his targets. I can hope with every game that passes, but I cant help but feel this will be rafas last season with us.

It could be his last season unless we won the title or at anytime he might get sack.

The owners might be thinking why must they "lose" 18M to buy GB ( NO "value" added to the team and also will "lose" Alonso to other team ) or sack Rafa and pay 6M......

BTW is Robbie Keane worth 20M or we could get Karim Benzema at 20M ( Which is much younger than Torres )

by **Reg** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:20 am

Kharhaz wrote:Even we as supporters have our limit. This must be the first season, since rafa has taken over, that I am doubting the man himself (rafa). He seems desperate to me with his targets. I can hope with every game that passes, but I cant help but feel this will be rafas last season with us.

That my friend, was the exact reason for my post.

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