TAKEOVER COMPLETE - H & G Finally Jibbed!

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Postby Trewyn » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:02 am

We should write to Obama and McCain and petition them to force H&G to sell if they want to score brownie points with the rest of the world... there are many Liverpool fans around the world and we have great clout! :D
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Postby SupitsJonF » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 am

I live near Texas, and if the price is right, who knows  :p
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Postby Reg » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:29 pm

I´m in Dallas next month.   Where´s that grassy knoll? :laugh:
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Postby stmichael » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:30 pm

I can't believe how quiet this whole situation has gone. Nothing from DIC, nothing from tweedle dum and tweedle dee and more concerningly from my point of view, nothing from the supporters.
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Postby Reg » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:46 pm

Can only assume G&H and DIC have come to some agreement - back off by the look of it. :(
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Postby Judge » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:49 pm

Reg wrote:I´m in Dallas next month.   Where´s that grassy knoll? :laugh:

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Postby tubby » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:58 pm

There is nothing left to talk about. DIC are not going to save us. If tey refused to get into a bidding war for under 200Mil before then I dont really see how they are going to come in for us when its going to cost at least 500Mil, probably more.

We just have forget all this yanks out nonsense and hope for the best this season. All this whinging isnt going to do aything now other than destabalise our season once it starts again so its no point.

The sad truth is that we were sold out from the inside - by David Moores.
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Postby faldo » Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:52 pm

you can always tell when the takeover talks have gone cold,because suddenly radio pundits start teasing liverpool about not being a big club.but as soon as they think something is happening and we could end up with powerful and influential owners
they suddenly remember the 18 league titles and start crawling....they think they don't need us anymore as a club representing the success of english football,and want to proudly boast about manu...but this club is the chosen one and will always win things even in the bad times...we will never be as glamorous as manu with the type of players we buy,but the spirit of the club is very strong.

it is strange though that both liverpool clubs don't attract more interest from billionaire buyers...yet teams like QPR has about 2 or 3 billionaires interested....i blame the media and their agendas.
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Postby Rush Job » Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:42 am

faldo wrote:you can always tell when the takeover talks have gone cold,because suddenly radio pundits start teasing liverpool about not being a big club.but as soon as they think something is happening and we could end up with powerful and influential owners
they suddenly remember the 18 league titles and start crawling....they think they don't need us anymore as a club representing the success of english football,and want to proudly boast about manu...but this club is the chosen one and will always win things even in the bad times...we will never be as glamorous as manu with the type of players we buy,but the spirit of the club is very strong.

it is strange though that both liverpool clubs don't attract more interest from billionaire buyers...yet teams like QPR has about 2 or 3 billionaires interested....i blame the media and their agendas.

Our owners have plenty of money but we're a means to that only, we'd be lucky to get half of what the team earns in a season ( CL money etc ) what with the debts we are servicing THEIR debt at that, oh but Hicks isnt so skint that he cant buy a billion pound plastic bottle company outright. How he ( and the other c.nt ) can expect fans to be ok with the fact that we  as supporters of the club and buyers of merchandise are paying for their "takeover" with interest while they get richer, mark my words this two will never put any of their own money into LFC and why would they as long as fans are paying, what was the line " its about fan devotion its doesnt necessary have anything to do with wining ", atleast he's honest ay..
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Postby rafa09 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:12 pm

have you heard what them pair of c@nts have done to developement assocation? ie, LIVERPOOLS i have been a agent since 1998. NO MORE there have cut ticket allocation from 1200 per home game to 900. upped amount paid in per week for guarrented ticket and for 2nd ticket. i have paid 1000,s into that scheme. now i have ended it.they are trying to get every last penny by any means. I FU@KING HATE THEM WITH A PASSION.
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:21 pm

Rush Job wrote:
faldo wrote:you can always tell when the takeover talks have gone cold,because suddenly radio pundits start teasing liverpool about not being a big club.but as soon as they think something is happening and we could end up with powerful and influential owners
they suddenly remember the 18 league titles and start crawling....they think they don't need us anymore as a club representing the success of english football,and want to proudly boast about manu...but this club is the chosen one and will always win things even in the bad times...we will never be as glamorous as manu with the type of players we buy,but the spirit of the club is very strong.

it is strange though that both liverpool clubs don't attract more interest from billionaire buyers...yet teams like QPR has about 2 or 3 billionaires interested....i blame the media and their agendas.

Our owners have plenty of money but we're a means to that only, we'd be lucky to get half of what the team earns in a season ( CL money etc ) what with the debts we are servicing THEIR debt at that, oh but Hicks isnt so skint that he cant buy a billion pound plastic bottle company outright. How he ( and the other c.nt ) can expect fans to be ok with the fact that we  as supporters of the club and buyers of merchandise are paying for their "takeover" with interest while they get richer, mark my words this two will never put any of their own money into LFC and why would they as long as fans are paying, what was the line " its about fan devotion its doesnt necessary have anything to do with wining ", atleast he's honest ay..

It wasn't Hicks is own money he put into the plastics company either Rushie, he raised the money from investors.

I don't think that tw@ts money has seen the light of day for fkn years. He must have become very attached to it over the years as he certainly doesn't like spending it. He probably spends his nights counting it while he looks for the next sucker to rip off.
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Postby rafa09 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:30 pm

i agree s@int we,ve screwed. plain and simple as that. yanks have done what they have done the world over. they invade then f@ck everything up. then when they,ve got what they want they go home leaving there mess behind them
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Postby kazza » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:08 pm

Judge wrote:
Reg wrote:I´m in Dallas next month.   Where´s that grassy knoll? :laugh:

opposite the warehouse

Don't you mean opposite the Book depository

Judging by what we have been reading you could be forgiven for calling it the Book Suppository  :D
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:56 am

NANNY RED wrote:Good read


News Features

Soccer punch

There are, believe it or not, more hated Yanks overseas than George W. Bush: the Americans who own European football teams

By STEVEN STARK  |  July 16, 2008  |  Recommended By 2 People

When Barack Obama arrives in England in a few weeks on his celebrated European tour, he’ll probably disembark assuming that George W. Bush is the most despised American in Britain.
If so, he’ll be wrong. Currently, sitting atop the most-hated Yank chart is Tom Hicks, co-owner of the Liverpool soccer club and a Texas businessman who ran with the same crowd as the incumbent president when Bush was governor of the Lone Star state.

Hicks is part of a growing wave of Americans who have purchased English soccer teams (including the owner of the NFL’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Malcolm Glazer, who now also owns controlling interest in the world’s most recognizable soccer team, Manchester United), convinced that owning a leading franchise in the top league of the world’s most popular game is a sure path to riches. Maybe so, but in the process Hicks — and, to a lesser extent, other American millionaires — managed to infuriate the locals.

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To be sure, it’s not just an American gold rush. The owner of the Chelsea club is a Russian businessman — one of the richest men in the world — named Roman Abramovich. And Manchester City’s squad was recently purchased by Thaksin Shinawatra, the disgraced former prime minister of Thailand.

But such purchases don’t tend to rile the Brits nearly as much because  those men, extraordinarily wealthy as they are, have demonstrated a willingness to pour hundreds of millions into their new clubs. In contrast, some of the Americans have been accused of  being too willing to use debt to fund their investment, making the team appear to be subject to the whims of the market — which, last anyone looked, isn’t doing so well.

What’s even worse from the locals’ perspective is that men like Hicks — who also owns MLB’s Texas Rangers and the NHL’s Dallas Stars — don’t seem to appreciate the traditions of a club like Liverpool, which has a place in the city and the nation’s heart is similar to that of the Boston Red Sox . . . times a hundred. That’s why Liverpudlians are practically begging for a group from Dubai to buy out Hicks and Co., and there has even been talk of Liverpool’s fans trying to pool their money and make a bid of their own.

Arrogant Americans
What has Hicks done wrong? To American eyes accustomed to the George Steinbrenners of the sports world, not much, as the team continues to perform relatively well on the field. But to apoplectic English and Liverpool fans, to whom tradition is vital, Hicks couldn’t be a more bumbling, stumbling embarrassment. In fact, when his son attended a game in February and went to a pub afterwards, he was spit upon, had beer thrown at him, and had to be rescued.

Hicks and his co-owner, Canadian George Gillett Jr. (owner of the NHL’s Montreal Canadiens), have publicly quarreled on more than one occasion. It was reported that Hicks had sounded out another potential manager (coach) for the team, undermining the current and highly respected skipper, Rafa Benitez. He even asked one of the club’s most solid links to the past, chief executive Rick Parry, to resign, on grounds he was disloyal (Parry refused). The always-excitable English press has occasionally taken to calling the team “Hicksville.”

But the final straw, for many fans, came two months later. While Liverpool played its key game of the year — a Champions League clash with Arsenal — Hicks stayed home in Texas to watch the Rangers on opening day. “I would never miss our home opener,” he was quoted as saying, “but I will have the Liverpool game on my TV.” That, of course, drove Liverpool fans bananas.

None of this, clearly, rises to the level of a foreign-policy crisis, of course. But it is indicative of a clash of cultures — of which Obama should be aware. Having lived in Europe recently, I can attest to the fact that most Europeans do like individual Americans (though not President Bush). But when they think about the United States, what does tend to irritate them is the arrogance of some Americans who convey the idea that everything stars-and-stripes is superior.

European soccer — especially in Liverpool — is something close to a sacred rite. What Bush buddy Hicks has done is akin to walking into a church, lighting a cigarette, and cracking open a beer. Note to Obama: the best way to reach out to our British friends and improve Anglo-American relations would be to get Hicks to sell the team.

That is a good read.

A Yank and a Canadian huh ?!
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Postby Rafa D » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:09 pm

faldo wrote:you can always tell when the takeover talks have gone cold,because suddenly radio pundits start teasing liverpool about not being a big club.but as soon as they think something is happening and we could end up with powerful and influential owners
they suddenly remember the 18 league titles and start crawling....they think they don't need us anymore as a club representing the success of english football,and want to proudly boast about manu...but this club is the chosen one and will always win things even in the bad times...we will never be as glamorous as manu with the type of players we buy,but the spirit of the club is very strong.

it is strange though that both liverpool clubs don't attract more interest from billionaire buyers...yet teams like QPR has about 2 or 3 billionaires interested....i blame the media and their agendas.

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