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Postby account deleted by request » Wed May 14, 2008 4:39 am

Arguing with you mate is a bit like this :-

Kharhaz -I think we will beat the mancs in the CL FINAL

s@int - we got knocked out by Chelsea mate

Kharhaz - I think Rafa will be to clever for Fergie

s@int - We lost to Chelsea we arn't in the final

Kharhaz - I think Gerrard will have a great game and we will win 2-0 in Moscow

s@int - The final is going to be between Chelsea and Man.U

Kharhaz - do you think Torres will score in the final?

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Postby Rush Job » Wed May 14, 2008 5:13 am

s@int wrote:There are none so blind as those that WILL NOT SEE.

Gillett went bankrupt. He even had to buy his own clothes and his dogs back. Hardly a reccommendation of financial acumen.

They also know how to gamble without any risk to themselves too! Maybe you don't mind them gambling with our club, I and most other supporters do.

No one is arguing that commercially we are well behind, but what the fk has that got to do with the fact that we are now £350million in debt with the chance of being £650million in debt before too long?

They haven't invested in Liverpool to make a loss - they havent invested AT ALL. They arn't gambling with their money they are gambling with Liverpool football club.

As our new financial whizz kid why not explain to the rest of us where and how we are going to get this £650million + interest from ? Or to make things easier just explain where we are going to get the money to pay the interest from? He has already tried every bank and loan company going, now he is trying the hedge funds, who next Carol Vorderman :D  Consolidate all his loans into one easy to pay loan?

They may know how to make money, but that doesn't mean the companies they buy prosper, it just means they know how to asset strip.

Here here saint its the fans who are lining their pockets and if it goes t!ts up its the fans who lose out, they walk away scot free.
If i had the money and the connections i`d have no problem ordering the hit, just Hicks though then GG would sell to DIC. :D
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Postby Ciggy » Wed May 14, 2008 6:08 am

Fuck you Lawro and your hair laquer.

Hes doing my head in lately him he done an article yesterday and was up Evertons @rse basicly saying they will over take us soon.

Piss off.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed May 14, 2008 6:47 am

Ciggy wrote:Fuck you Lawro and your hair laquer.

Hes doing my head in lately him he done an article yesterday and was up Evertons @rse basicly saying they will over take us soon.

Piss off.

Whats going on with our ex-players at the moment ?

Redknapp, Houghton, Whelan, Lawrenson, Mcmanaman don't seem to have a good word to say about us at the moment.
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Postby laza » Wed May 14, 2008 6:57 am

Gee i had been keeping away from this thread for a while now, ignorance is bliss and all that.

Damn my curiousity

Its makes things like formations, players  form and rotation policy all seem somewhat redundant with this cancer in the club at the moment
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Postby Trewyn » Wed May 14, 2008 11:35 am

It's extremely depressing and distressing to see Hicks get closer and closer to his goal.

The keyword to this whole 'who should own LFC' debacle is SUSTAINABILITY.
Who can sustain our club, Hicks or DIC?

It seems rosy to non-liverpool fans now, with news that Hicks managed to cough out enough funding to buy the majority stake and prostitute out our new stadium to advertisers for a large sum of money. But how long can he keep it up? Can he provide us with £50m every season to gun for the title and other trophies?

Again I reiterate the fact that Hicks is only worth US$1.3b according to Forbes Magazine 2007 and DIC is worth... god knows how much is DIC worth but definetely not less than 10x what Hicks is worth. And did I mention that DIC are fans and know what the offside rule is...

Hypothetical Scenarios: What IF Hicks achieved his goal of total control? (which seems very likely... god forbid)

Let's use Manchester United as a case study because our situation will be exactly the same as theirs.

Man-U are in debt, where most will call $850m a very deep debt. They will remain in debt because they need to buy top players to stay up.

Now... every dynasty comes to an end. Liverpool's one did almost 20yrs ago and we're desperately trying to get back. What will happen when Man-U's dynasty comes to an end? after all, Ferguson can't live forever and other teams can't be content to stay in their shadow forever.

If man-u fails for even 1 season to get into the Champion's league, all hell will break loose. Their super debt will finally crack the club. They WILL end up like Leeds.
This is a risk Man-U are living with everyday. Glazer is worth only US$2b. Will he throw away HALF his fortune to bail Man-U out??

Hicks is only worth US$1.3b. We (not Hicks) are going to be saddled with debts of $600m without even thinking about buying any new players. Does Hicks even know that he has to spend at least £50m every season to keep up and challenge for the title?? It really is little wonder why the great Liverpool FC have to beg borrow and scrape for mediocre players and scraps. We deserve better than that!

I will be very pessimistic if Hicks gains total control simply because the math doesn't add up. I abhor the fact that we are risking bankruptcy, and for what? If we fail to make it to the CL, we should be able to fight for it again the next season or the season after next and not become bankrupt and let everything spiral downwards like Leeds and possibly Man-U if it happens to them.

Really, our best bet is for DIC to own us. The only negative thing about DIC is that they did mention that they will sell Liverpool after 5yrs. But hey, we know that they are fans and you really never know, Liverpool might then become a financial and marketing juggernaut, of which we are more than capable of and it will be more prudent for them to keep us as we're an asset.
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Postby Reg » Wed May 14, 2008 2:11 pm

Trewyn wrote:Now... every dynasty comes to an end. Liverpool's one did almost 20yrs ago and we're desperately trying to get back. What will happen when Man-U's dynasty comes to an end? after all, Ferguson can't live forever and other teams can't be content to stay in their shadow forever.

Hicks is only worth US$1.3b. We (not Hicks) are going to be saddled with debts of $600m without even thinking about buying any new players.

Very good points. When the Man Utd phase closes and we know from our own experience, its a slippery slope which is impossible to reverse - top transfer funds are not available, wage offers are reduced and sure as sunshine follows rain, the best players will blow with the wind to whoever is paying better.

That puts ManUtd with a weaker and declining side straddled with debt, they´ll have to focus on cost cutting to reduce the debt thus accelerating their own decline.

In principle as a domestic operation, it looks fatal, however I guess the emphasis switches with urgency to expanding the far east fanbase and using that additional income to prop up the body.

Alternatively Glazer could be using ManUtd debt as a tax break for his UK operations etc.. hence its a bit of a smokescreen however you have to say that Whisky-head´s spending in the last 12 months does not give the impression they are concerned by the debt level. If we see them go 12 months without flashing the wedge then one must assume they are concerned.

All the above also applies for LFC. Only only good news for us is that the credit crunch is still biting.
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Postby Reg » Wed May 14, 2008 2:16 pm

This is not good news:  :(

Benitez left in limbo after Gillett's oversight extends Liverpool turmoil
Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Emphasising his dismay at a season without silverware, Steven Gerrard yesterday passed up the opportunity to say he sees himself finishing his career at Anfield. However, the Liverpool captain will be saddened to learn that his manager's hopes of a speedy resolution to the club's boardroom strife appear to have been dashed.

Aware he will have to sell before buying new players this summer, Rafael Benitez expressed his wish last week for a quick end to the struggle for ownership which is limiting the funds at his disposal. But Dubai International Capital (DIC), the Arab consortium seeking a buy-out at Anfield, is now resigned to the fact that Tom Hicks may still be at the helm, come August.

There had been hopes that the expiry of pre-emption rights this month would allow Hicks' co-owner George Gillett to sell his shares to DIC. But an administrative oversight on Gillett's part appears to have prevented that, so DIC is now dependent on Hicks – or his bankers – reaching the conclusion that he has no option but to sell to them.


There is a belief in the DIC camp that Hicks' bankers might ultimately force his hand, though when that might happen is unclear. DIC may have to wait until October, the date Hicks has promised that construction work will begin on Liverpool's new 60,000-seat stadium and which is the acid test of his ability to deliver what he has promised for the club.


Hicks is close to borrowed time where his side's players are concerned. Another season without a trophy threatens an exodus and Liverpool's former defender Mark Lawrenson fears the loss of Gerrard if there is no sense of the club advancing any time soon.

"He [Gerrard] says he wants to stay and can't see himself leaving but would anyone blame him if he felt he was better off out of it?" Lawrenson said yesterday. "That might not seem too much of a problem just now. But if Jose Mourinho takes over at Inter Milan and tells the chairman to get Gerrard for him at all costs, it might just become one."


Gerrard, who needs no reminding that Manchester United now stand only one title away from Liverpool's record of 18, considers it imperative that the club invest seriously this summer. "Other teams are going to strengthen, so it's important we do the same," he said yesterday. "There is a lot of money in the League. To keep doing well in the League and Europe we need to strengthen the squad." Gerrard appeared less than bullish about his side's chances of mounting a title challenge next season. "Obviously I have to be careful that I don't send expectations through the roof again, but I am desperate for [a title]. We need new players, and the manager needs help from the board to make these signings happen. I do expect us to be involved next season."


On reports that a player who was so nearly tempted to join Chelsea in 2005, might see out his career at Anfield, he said: "I'm happy. I am enjoying my football. Obviously I am not happy ending the season without a trophy."


Stadium investment will need to begin any time now, with the hiring of surveyors and contractors and if construction work does not get under way in the autumn Hicks will find himself under huge pressure from Liverpool fans.

He remains upbeat about his prospects and has promised that work on the new stadium in Stanley Park will will start in September, with construction to begin in October and the stadium due to be open for matches in 2011. But Hicks' confidence flies in the face of the credit crunch, which has left Tottenham to consider modifying plans to redevelop White Hart Lane.

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Postby Trewyn » Wed May 14, 2008 3:28 pm

Reg wrote:In principle as a domestic operation, it looks fatal, however I guess the emphasis switches with urgency to expanding the far east fanbase and using that additional income to prop up the body.


Hicks has to put in money at so many fronts. Money to the stadium, money to the team, money to market the club and money to support his other businesses. I really think it's too far over his head. He has to cut somewhere to support a front. Unfortunately, cut the stadium and you lose major profits, cut the team spending and you won't qualify for CL, cut money to market the club and there goes the most potential to make money. Sure as hell also he won't cut his American sport teams.

So how is he gonna find the money to spend?? Really, the math doesn't add up, unless he has some secret account in a Bahamas Bank which we don't know, or maybe he's a columbian drug baron...
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Postby Reg » Wed May 14, 2008 3:41 pm

Why not dilute the terrible twins share to 50% between them and bring in DIC as 50% owners thus having access to 3 sources of investment?  Whichever way you look at it, as you say, the investment requirement over the next 5 years is FAR too great for Hicks to stomach on his own so at the end of the day he´s just playing a game.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Wed May 14, 2008 4:16 pm

Hicks doesn't have any money.

So he will have to sell the club.

Gillett already is willing to.

This situation cannot continue.

Either Hicks sells to DIC, or he has to find billions of dollars to fund new players and the new stadium.

And the latter is not going to happen.
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Postby zarababe » Wed May 14, 2008 4:41 pm

Great Rafa Article by his mate Balague - a real insight in to the man, the passsion and his plans..

Rafael Benitez opens up on transfers, treachery, Torres, titles - and, of course, tinkering
The Liverpool manager goes on the record exclusively with TheGame, starting, as he must, with rotation

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Liverpool’s victory over the old enemy yesterday will ease the pressure on Rafael BenÍtez, for whom two Champions League final appearances in three season has not been enough to avoid harsh judgments after another failed title bid. Here he answers his critics.

Your way of working has always involved squad rotation. How and why do you take the decision to rotate a player? Are fewer rotations the way forward?

First, if you rotate a squad it means you believe in your players and trust in their ability to perform. You want everyone to feel they are working together to achieve our goals. If we win it is thanks to the efforts of everyone, however small their contribution. Look at Vladimir Smicer, who did not play a lot for us [in 2004-05] but scored one of the goals that allowed us to win the Champions League.

Every manager with a team in European competitions and with international players, with so many games to play, rotates his squad – call them changes, rotations, they all do it. Nowadays, in comparison to 20 years ago, we play 20 per cent more games in a season. Players run 15 per cent more than they used to and, even more importantly, they run 30 per cent faster.

Things have changed in terms of physical demands. The decision to rotate starts by watching my team train – that is a priority for me. I see which players have energy and what players need to rest. You look at a player, talk to your staff, to the doctors, try to analyse the situation and then you chat to the footballer, although he will almost always say that he is ready to play. So sometimes you have to read between the lines to gauge whether they are really fully fit and if they are more tired than they are letting on.

Do you feel that Alex Ferguson “changes the team” and you “rotate” or “tinker”?

When managers win matches, people talk about how they changed players; if they don’t win, then it becomes “rotation policies”. People make an evaluation of a team without knowing enough about the side. People would say, “Why don’t you just pick the same team?” but they haven’t given the wider issues enough thought.

Are you still involved in all the training sessions?

I’ve always gone to every training session and I will keep doing this. Maybe from time to time manager obligations force me to miss some parts of training, but it is very rare. It is a priority to be there whenever I can, especially when addressing tactical issues.

Why does your Liverpool side not yet look like your old Valencia side?

The team that I left at Valencia had had great success and were a strong unit. That side knew what they had to do and destroyed opponents. I think that this Liverpool team has had moments where they’ve played at a similar level, but logically everything takes time.

When I arrived at Valencia I found a squad that was already quite dangerous, solid and well put together by Héctor Cúper. When we arrived at Liverpool we found a team that was low in confidence and hadn’t had a winning record. We had to rebuild. None of the players that left us are playing at a club that are of a higher standard than Liverpool.

What would your ideal Liverpool side be like - similar to your old Valencia team?

Some teams prefer the long game, others the short game. I think there’s always a middle path to take between the two. I like a team that always knows what to do in each moment, a team that knows when it’s time to maintain possession and play the short ball and by the same token a team that knows when it’s time to take a more direct approach.

What tactical differences are there between the Premier League and the Champions League? Do you think the less tactical nature of some Premier League games is the reason why your style of play is yet to triumph in the English league?[

Evidently the Premier League is much more physical and in the Champions League, tactically speaking there are more options open to a manager. When you are talking about long balls and second balls, what you are looking at effectively is a 50-50 scenario. It can go one of two ways. Whoever wins that second ball will either continue attacking or be able to start a counter-attack.

What this means is that the Premier League is tactically speaking a more simple or straightforward competition. You can try to control two or three aspects of a game and that’s enough. In the Champions League the tactics become more complex because different styles of play are brought together when different teams from different countries meet.

Is the Premier League more straightforward in terms of tactics but more difficult in terms of control of the game?

Yes, we are talking about a very physical competition. When you put the ball in the opposition’s penalty area and you fight for it, a physical dimension takes over.

So what do Liverpool need to do to win the Premier League?

A balance between technical ability and physical strength. We’re a team with enough technical ability to play well and we have enough physical strength to compete, but what we need to do is bring these two elements together so that when key moments arise we are ready and able to compete.

Do you favour the Champions League over other competitions? Do your goals for this season change?

You start every season here with four objectives. As a manager, you have to be able to manage your resources to get the best out of your squad.

In terms of the Premier League we were close at certain points this season, but we drew s e v e r a l games and lost touch, whereas in the Champions League we continued to progress. What happens is that subconsciously your focus turns to the competition you have within your reach.

They say that the departure of Pako Ayestarán [the former assistant manager] had a negative effect on the morale and performance of the team. Is that the way you see it? Can you tell us what happened?

Pako was much more than a physical trainer, he was my friend and someone I trusted for many years. I worked with him for 11 years. It’s a recent wound that still hurts.

Liverpool gave him autonomy and power and I think that changed him a lot – he wanted more and more. One day I found out that he had serious contacts with other teams and that seemed to me a betrayal towards me and the club that I couldn’t accept. He told me he wanted to leave the same day that we played against Toulouse, so I lost someone I trusted greatly, a key member of my staff at a crucial moment in the preseason.

Logically, this has an effect on a team. The people that arrived had to adapt and familiarise themselves with a new environment. This meant that a transitional period started at the club, but we still managed to win games and play well. Then, when we started to draw games, people questioned our work.

I believe that no one is irreplaceable and we have to keep moving forward. Paco de Miguel took over the role as physical trainer. Also, as a result, I have more of a presence around the team and try to have more involvement with the players.

Certain commentators say that if Fernando Torres had played more you could have been challenging for the Premier League title.

That has been one of the great lies of this season. There are a lot of people that talk without having thought things through about the number of games Torres has played and the impact that this has had on our performance in the league. Torres did not take part in the victorious games against Toulouse [4-0], Besiktas [8-0] and Havant & Waterlooville [5-2].

He didn’t make the bench in eight games; for six of these he was injured, which seems to be something that people forget. The other two games were in the FA Cup and Carling Cup, so the theory about our position in the league being down to Torres being missing doesn’t add up.

How much did he cost?

Whenever we talk about the deal for Torres with Atlético Madrid we always include Luis GarcÍa in the price. The total cost of the operation is around £20 million.

Has his success surprised you?

You always have confidence in a player that arrives with energy and desire and who has great quality. However, the truth is that he has been a fantastic success. He has already scored 28 goals and the level of play he brings to the side and his commitment to the team is hugely significant.

We formulated a plan when he arrived, focusing on trying to keep him up front close to the defenders because with the speed that he has, if you give him a good pass he’ll latch on to it. The problem is, with so many games we haven’t had bags of time to work on specifics. We’ve tried with the group to work on certain technical individual aspects as well as helping the players to learn how to execute at crucial moments.

In Fernando’s case this involves tuning up his finishing, for example. We try to find time to work as well on Steven Gerrard’s new role, which he is certainly enjoying.

Thirty-one goals out of 56 [in the league] this season have come from Torres and Gerrard. Is that a worry?

This shows that they are two players with great timing and quality – they are a great plus for us. But we have to get to a point where other players get on to the scoresheet, too, the likes of Dirk Kuyt, Peter Crouch and Ryan Babel, for instance.

In Britain the press do not focus on tactics so much. Do you feel, because of that, your work has been undervalued?

Not specifically. It’s true that the press in England talk a lot more about names. Here they talk about the name of the player and the performance of the individual over the collective performance. This is part of the football culture here and I accept it.

When I talk to the members of the press that come by here on a regular basis, I get the impression that they know what they’re talking about. I understand that analysis from a distance is harder.

People accuse you of not signing properly. And they mention Josemi, Antonio Núñez, Craig Bellamy and even Jermaine Pennant.

At a time when we didn’t have endless economic resources, I think that we made good signings in general. We should be talking about players like Reina, Agger, Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, Luis GarcÍa, Torres, Babel, Lucas Leiva, Skrtel and also Arbeloa, Sissoko, Fabio Aurélio, Kuyt. These are players who have brought a lot to the team. And in certain cases – for example, Sissoko and Bellamy – the club gained financially.

We have signed 28 players in four years for the first team. Considering that the number of changes we had to make when I arrived and the fact that without much money we have to take more risks, I don’t think this is a disproportionate number.

Why does Crouch not play more regularly?

We’ve established a system with one main striker and one secondary striker that works quite well. Logically this makes it more complicated for him. We have a striker that has scored 28 goals, so the other players have to work around that. For instance, now if the secondary striker is Gerrard [who has scored 19 goals], logically there are less options for the other players.

You talk about differences in spending between Chelsea, Manchester United and yourselves. Arsenal are having success having spent less. What is the right path to follow for Liverpool?

I have a rough idea of the figures involved. Chelsea had spent £120 million previously and an additional £240 million to win the league in the 2004-05 season. Manchester United have spent £200 million in recent years. This year on Carlos Tévez, Owen Hargreaves, Anderson and Nani, that cost them more than £70 million. Tottenham have spent £100 million in the last two seasons alone. And Arsenal have spent more or less the same amount as we have on young players with potential.

In my four years at Liverpool we have spent £150 million and we have gained somewhere in the region of £70 million. Looking at those numbers, there’s a difference of £20 million per season, yet we have won four [trophies] and played seven finals. When all things are considered, that’s not a bad return. I think that we’re on the right path.

Now we can spend money on players if we can earn some by selling players. If we don’t have the £500 million Chelsea spent in recent years, we have to look to lay the foundations in the youth teams and reserve teams and build from there.

The players in the reserve team are 17, 18 years old, so they’ll need two, three years to reach the right level and the first team. We are close to making three signings, one for the first team.

Is it only money that is the difference with the other top three? Is it also a question of mentality?

I think that success breeds confidence and a positive mentality. We won the Champions League [in 2005] and that victory meant that we had the confidence to reach another final in that competition [in 2007]. In the Premier League we have not had the same success, so we are steadily building the same confidence.

How much longer would you like to stay at Liverpool?

I am very happy and would like to stay here for many more years.

What communication have you had with Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr?

I have had contact through e-mail with them and also Rick Parry [the chief executive] lets me know what the situation is.

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Postby Kash_Mountain » Wed May 14, 2008 6:36 pm

Reg wrote:This is not good news:  :(

Benitez left in limbo after Gillett's oversight extends Liverpool turmoil
Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Emphasising his dismay at a season without silverware, Steven Gerrard yesterday passed up the opportunity to say he sees himself finishing his career at Anfield. However, the Liverpool captain will be saddened to learn that his manager's hopes of a speedy resolution to the club's boardroom strife appear to have been dashed.

Aware he will have to sell before buying new players this summer, Rafael Benitez expressed his wish last week for a quick end to the struggle for ownership which is limiting the funds at his disposal. But Dubai International Capital (DIC), the Arab consortium seeking a buy-out at Anfield, is now resigned to the fact that Tom Hicks may still be at the helm, come August.

There had been hopes that the expiry of pre-emption rights this month would allow Hicks' co-owner George Gillett to sell his shares to DIC. But an administrative oversight on Gillett's part appears to have prevented that, so DIC is now dependent on Hicks – or his bankers – reaching the conclusion that he has no option but to sell to them.


There is a belief in the DIC camp that Hicks' bankers might ultimately force his hand, though when that might happen is unclear. DIC may have to wait until October, the date Hicks has promised that construction work will begin on Liverpool's new 60,000-seat stadium and which is the acid test of his ability to deliver what he has promised for the club.


Hicks is close to borrowed time where his side's players are concerned. Another season without a trophy threatens an exodus and Liverpool's former defender Mark Lawrenson fears the loss of Gerrard if there is no sense of the club advancing any time soon.

"He [Gerrard] says he wants to stay and can't see himself leaving but would anyone blame him if he felt he was better off out of it?" Lawrenson said yesterday. "That might not seem too much of a problem just now. But if Jose Mourinho takes over at Inter Milan and tells the chairman to get Gerrard for him at all costs, it might just become one."


Gerrard, who needs no reminding that Manchester United now stand only one title away from Liverpool's record of 18, considers it imperative that the club invest seriously this summer. "Other teams are going to strengthen, so it's important we do the same," he said yesterday. "There is a lot of money in the League. To keep doing well in the League and Europe we need to strengthen the squad." Gerrard appeared less than bullish about his side's chances of mounting a title challenge next season. "Obviously I have to be careful that I don't send expectations through the roof again, but I am desperate for [a title]. We need new players, and the manager needs help from the board to make these signings happen. I do expect us to be involved next season."


On reports that a player who was so nearly tempted to join Chelsea in 2005, might see out his career at Anfield, he said: "I'm happy. I am enjoying my football. Obviously I am not happy ending the season without a trophy."


Stadium investment will need to begin any time now, with the hiring of surveyors and contractors and if construction work does not get under way in the autumn Hicks will find himself under huge pressure from Liverpool fans.

He remains upbeat about his prospects and has promised that work on the new stadium in Stanley Park will will start in September, with construction to begin in October and the stadium due to be open for matches in 2011. But Hicks' confidence flies in the face of the credit crunch, which has left Tottenham to consider modifying plans to redevelop White Hart Lane.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport....306.ece

I am so f**king f**king  f**king sick off this whole debacle.  I'm worried that if Rafa doesn't get enough money to spend and is not able to sell players at reasonable prices in order to buy, then Mwanck Utd and Cheaski will lap up most of the best available talent in the transfer period such as Lahm for instance.

What chance will we have to bring the title to Anfield next season, if we can't buy good quality players in the transfer period?   :(
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed May 14, 2008 7:34 pm

Kash_Mountain wrote:I am so f**king f**king  f**king sick off this whole debacle.  I'm worried that if Rafa doesn't get enough money to spend and is not able to sell players at reasonable prices in order to buy, then Mwanck Utd and Cheaski will lap up most of the best available talent in the transfer period such as Lahm for instance.

What chance will we have to bring the title to Anfield next season, if we can't buy good quality players in the transfer period?   :(

Spot on Cash i know its early in the transfer window but your right mate whs gonna be left for us to buy ,
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Postby Reg » Wed May 14, 2008 8:42 pm

zarababe wrote:We are close to making three signings, one for the first team.

Great interview however this comment makes me think it is not recent?
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