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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:41 pm

Ciggy wrote:A NEW group is preparing a plan to buy out Liverpool FC's US owners.It is understood the group comprises high-profile LFC fans, legal experts and people in senior public positions.They are believed to be proposing a Continental-style model where fans own a huge stake in major clubs.The ECHO understands the group plans to raise £500m to buy the club AND finance a new stadium.

Thats Tarby & Cilla on board then :D

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....0413116

It's meeeeee. i just nipped down the natwest ,got a few quid out as a deposit and bingo done and dusted. Now my plan is to get a big fook off loan , over 20 years . Build the stadium .put up ticket prices and sell our best players . Name the stadium the David Moyes takes it up the biscuit arena  and have loads of hot dog stands and cheerleaders and stuff.

Oh and no one can come in unless they agree to rafa being manager for life .

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Postby redtrader74 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:41 pm

Ciggy wrote:A NEW group is preparing a plan to buy out Liverpool FC's US owners.It is understood the group comprises high-profile LFC fans, legal experts and people in senior public positions.They are believed to be proposing a Continental-style model where fans own a huge stake in major clubs.The ECHO understands the group plans to raise £500m to buy the club AND finance a new stadium.

Thats Tarby & Cilla on board then :D

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....0413116

I wish thats true. 250,000 fans buy a Lifetime share for £2k= £500m.
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Postby Ciggy » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:05 pm

If them tw@ts got us for nothing I dont see how its not impossible.
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Postby red37 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:13 pm

Ciggy wrote:Thats Tarby & Cilla on board then :D

Well i suppose the Home Counties is a bit closer to the action than Texas. Does Tarby still know the way home?  :p
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:09 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:A NEW group is preparing a plan to buy out Liverpool FC's US owners.It is understood the group comprises high-profile LFC fans, legal experts and people in senior public positions.They are believed to be proposing a Continental-style model where fans own a huge stake in major clubs.The ECHO understands the group plans to raise £500m to buy the club AND finance a new stadium.

Thats Tarby & Cilla on board then :D

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....0413116

I wish thats true. 250,000 fans buy a Lifetime share for £2k= £500m.

This would be really great, but to avoid major complications the shareholders should only have the power to vote for the president or the board.
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Postby heimdall » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:01 pm

ruskiy playmaker wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:A NEW group is preparing a plan to buy out Liverpool FC's US owners.It is understood the group comprises high-profile LFC fans, legal experts and people in senior public positions.They are believed to be proposing a Continental-style model where fans own a huge stake in major clubs.The ECHO understands the group plans to raise £500m to buy the club AND finance a new stadium.

Thats Tarby & Cilla on board then :D

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....0413116

I wish thats true. 250,000 fans buy a Lifetime share for £2k= £500m.

This would be really great, but to avoid major complications the shareholders should only have the power to vote for the president or the board.

This is a really good idea and could generate sh1tloads of cash for transfers as well, you could have different tiers of investor from a few hundred quid to £100,000 . Obviously the more you pay the bigger vote you get, within reason. It would effectively be like a plc wouldn't it. I would definitely invest in something like that, imagine that.   :devil:  :devil:  :devil:  :devil:   :wwww
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Postby Ciggy » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:12 pm

We can ask all these to throw in a few bob.

Elvis Costello
Dr Dre
Michael Howard
Samuel L Jackson
Jimmy Tarbuck
Robert Carlisle
Ricky Tomlinson
DJ Spoony
Colin Murray
Mike Myers
Alan Fletcher ( Dr Karl Kennedy from Neighbours) :D 
Johnny Ball
Cilla Black
Paul Boardman Sky Sports
Stan Boardman
Mel C
Craig Charles
Darren Clarke
Kelly Dalglish
Laura Davies
Chris De Burgh
Les Dennis
Kirsty Gallager
Mark Owen
Ken Dodd
Ringo
Daniel Craig
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Postby kunilson » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:04 pm

id rather the club be in the hands of actual fans, but thats what i was hoping a year ago. oh, and to have a clue in the business world too...
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:28 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:A NEW group is preparing a plan to buy out Liverpool FC's US owners.It is understood the group comprises high-profile LFC fans, legal experts and people in senior public positions.They are believed to be proposing a Continental-style model where fans own a huge stake in major clubs.The ECHO understands the group plans to raise £500m to buy the club AND finance a new stadium.

Thats Tarby & Cilla on board then :D

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....0413116

I wish thats true. 250,000 fans buy a Lifetime share for £2k= £500m.

Lets get the ball rollin then im good for it :nod
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:36 am

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=209472.0

From rawk , interesting . It's the first time i've done copy and paste so don't feckin moan if it's wrong. :D
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:15 am


Thanx for that  :)
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:13 am

Sheikh to try again

By David Maddock 02/02/2008 - Mirror


Sheikh Mohammed is ready to test the partnership between the joint owners of Liverpool by making a formal offer for the club.

The billionaire's investment company DIC has been studying closely the terms of a restructuring deal at Anfield that Americans Tom Hicks and George Gillett announced last week.

And now the investment arm of the Dubai government is primed to approach the pair with a fresh offer that will value the club in the region of £300million.

DIC's hopes of buying the club they first bid for a year ago seem to rest on exploitation of the uneasy relationship between the two US tycoons.

Hicks has taken the lead in recent weeks by announcing a refinancing deal with the banks that secures his grip on the club - and he also unveiled £300million plans for a new state-of-the-art stadium.

Gillett, who has the option of selling his 50 per cent stake, has remained conspicuously silent during that fanfare - and his position is the key to success for the increasingly confident Sheikh.
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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:19 pm

I think it would give us all a huge lift if this came true sooner rather than later (or even not at all) A good win today folowed by the news that DIC's bid has been accepted and I think we would all sleep better tonight.
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:12 am

The beautiful game doesn’t mean beautiful profits
by Andrew Neil on Sunday, 03 February 2008

When it comes to football, normal rules of business don't apply. You think with your heart, you do the sums with your feet and your make key decisions with your best pals over dinner.

So it is with huge surprise - and more than a little concern - that I see Dubai International Capital (DIC) is preparing another bid for Liverpool Football Club. By the time you read this column, the chances are DIC's US$500 million offer will have been accepted; one of the world's most famous clubs will be in Arab hands.

But I find this deal difficult to understand for several reasons. First, let's look at DIC's current investment strategy: it has major stakes in seven companies across the globe and in another seven private equity funds. According to its own website, DIC is "focused on acquisitions of market leading companies in Europe and North America, with a proven strategy and robust management".
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I could rest my case here: Liverpool FC is an iconic football team but "proven strategy and robust management" aren't words that quite go with it. The current owners paid US$340 million for the club last year; they took on US$87.7 million of debt; and soon agreed to the building of a new stadium. Now they have run out of cash and their total loans are approaching US$690 million. No wonder they need to get out in a hurry.

DIC can argue that Hicks and Gillett have made a mess of a fantastic brand and business; so stepping in makes perfect sense. They will point out that the boss of DIC, Sameer Al Ansari, is a lifelong Liverpool fan. This is what concerns me most.

Let's look at other "lifelong fans": Mike Ashley has pumped US$500 million into Newcastle Football Club, with no sign of any return in the next five years; Sir Alan Sugar eventually had to let go of his beloved Tottenham Football Club; Mohammed Al Fayed of Harrods fames is out US$700 million and counting at Fulham Football Club.

Football, whichever way you look at it, is not a business in which you will make money quickly. Which is why I fear Ansari and Co will come unstuck.

Their current investments abroad have all so far been admirable and with a clear profit return path. Take one of the most recent, a US$1.2 billion stake in Alliance Medical, a company which specializes in providing outsourced diagnostic imaging such as MRI scans.

DIC can open up the huge Middle East market. Nothing wrong with that - after all, that's what DIC exits for: to get into businesses, turn them around and get out.

But Gillett and Hicks got into Liverpool, realized they couldn't turn it around and got out in a hurry: the demands of 40,000 fans every weekend, the national media, the cries for new players and a new stadium, proved too much and too expensive.

Sameer Al Ansari is about to experience all this first hand. Football fans taking over football clubs have historically been marriages made in hell. Ansari is a smart man - if anyone can break the mould, he can. But I wouldn't hold your breath.

Andrew Neil is the former editor of The Sunday Times and chief executive of BSkyB. He is currently chief executive of Press Holdings Media, chairman of ITP, chairman of World Media Rights and a presenter of This Week (BBC1) Daily Politics (BBC2) Straight Talk (BBC News24).
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