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Postby parchpea » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:09 pm

Moores new his time was up not only financially but also because football had entered a new phase and he was not able to compete on any level with these big shots and cutthroat business types.

This was so worrying for him he constantly gave the impression that he did not trust anyone and that each bidder was attempting to turn him over and this delayed him selling to DIC and sucked him into considering a counter bid from the americans.

Poor Moores was right to be cautious and his concerns have proven correct because he has his pockets picked by the americans and left us in a bit of mess to put it mildly.

Liverpool did need to move on but they have been very naive throughout this process and pounced upon by these inverstors looking to make a quick buck.

Moores has been very quiet all the way through as have the board members who have been there many years and I would be interested to know what they think about this now.
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:13 pm

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lakes10 wrote:I am am all for the Yanks going but i do get a bad feeling from Dubai International Capital.

One of the main points is its a part of the Dubai Government, therefore efected bu world events.

there is still a big question mark over them and funding terrorism (this being the reson that they got turned down from building a port in American)

Honestly, this is ridiculous and I hope you aren't basing your judgment on credulous Americanized stereotypes of Arabs and Arab /Muslim conglomerates in the middle east that they are all terrorists  or at least fund terrorism. America has other enemies other than the arab/muslim people of the middle-east. In fact, America's biggest enemy is themselves.

Nothing holds much weight in this life other than a man's word. Those two Yank c*nts have already broken theirs, so they aren't worth a f*ck to us. If DIC come in, I'm pretty certain that whatever it is they will say, they will mean. When it comes to business, that's one thing those people don't f*ck around with.

no mate i base it on world events. lets put one thing out in front, you dont make a lot of money by being good, dont dig too deep into G&H past if you like them (i know we dont like them but).

DIC run a thin line with the west, they put so much money into the west and we turn a blind eye to what they do, but before long the west will turn and say thats it, Only Bush stood up for them as he know how much money HE would make out of the deal, (he is part of a company that deal;s with the ports in the U.S).

all i am saying is that there IS a Small risk that due to world events the west could turn against the sadia arabia

Arsenal also have a problem and this was spoken about last year, if things did get bad with the sadia's Arsenal put in place a aciton plan to to seel the new ground to a French company to make sure the club was safe.

It will only take another link with sadia arabia and terrorism for the west to come down hard on them.

This is world politics and not football.



by the way the YANKS CAN :censored: OFF
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:14 pm

laza wrote:ESPN site running the story now, hopefully there is some fire behind this smoke.
I stay clear of dirty money routine, i think there is enough hysteria in this whole sorry story without going down that road

Post it up please Laza, and I agree whats going on between the middle east and america has nothing to do with LFC.

Weve got enough sh!t going on without bringing politics into it.
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Postby laza » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:21 pm

There you go CGGY

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Postby laza » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:22 pm

Dont worry Lakes....Global warming will get us before the terrorists and then we will all be supporting water polo teams
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:23 pm

Ciggy wrote:Lakes you do realise that the Bin Laden family and Bush Tom Hick's mate are best of friends from their Emron days dont you  ???

Yes and here Bush with who could be our new owner. bed buddies

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Postby lakes10 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:25 pm

Bush " if we had used this in 9/11 do you think we would have still got all that oil "
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:27 pm

sorry i know i an going over the top here and i am having a bit of fun aswell as i know it winds some up with what i say.


but i have jusy had it up to here with all the :censored: that going on at our club and i wish it was just a football club again.
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:35 pm

When I buy Liverpool you can come and play for us lad :D

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Postby lakes10 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:42 pm

" so Mr Bush , what one would you like as your 2nd wife, they will be ready in 10 years so book now"
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:42 pm

Liverpool braced for takeover bid 
By Phil McNulty
Chief football writer 

Dubai International Capital - the investment arm of the Dubai Government - is ready to table a new £350m bid to buy Liverpool Football Club.

BBC Sport understands DIC has drawn up plans to take control from American duo George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

But the deal is subject to conditions which Gillett and Hicks are currently unwilling to meet.

DIC was originally thought to be ready to make an offer for Hicks' 50% share, but now favours a total buy-out.

DIC was close to buying the club in January 2007, but pulled out when Liverpool refused to agree to a deadline on the deal and moved into advanced negotiations with Hicks and Gillett.

The interest has now been seriously revived, but DIC is insistent it will not pay over the odds to buy the club, and until Gillett and Hicks agree to certain terms contained within the deal, an impasse has been reached.

Joe McLean, who is a football finance expert with accountants Grant Thornton, told BBC Radio Five Live: "The talk at the moment is that there will be some hard bargaining going on and it may take a few weeks before it is resolved."

DIC has put together a package of around £350m to put to Gillett and Hicks, which also includes taking on the debts incurred by the pair when they took control in March last year.

Gillett and Hicks' reign has caused turmoil on and off the pitch at Liverpool, and DIC has always maintained a close eye on Liverpool's situation, despite the collapse of the previous deal.

The Americans are currently attempting to finalise terms on a £350m loan that would enable them to repay money borrowed for their £218.9m takeover, repay loans used to sign players, and enable them to start work on a re-scaled plan for a new stadium in Stanley Park.

DIC hopes the offer would present the American duo with a get-out clause before they take out the massive loan.

McLean believes that bankers could try to encourage that to happen and he says that even if Gillett and Hicks do strike a refinancing deal, it would only be a prelude to them selling the club.

Hicks, in particular, is under pressure after being subjected to heavy criticism from fans following public disagreements with popular manager Rafael Benitez.

He has also come under fire for his admission that talks had been held with Jurgen Klinsmann about possibly succeeding the Spaniard.

Liverpool fans will turn up the heat on Gillett and Hicks with an orchestrated protest at Monday night's game against Aston Villa.

Website Reclaim The Kop issued a statement claiming they were "not fit to be associated with our club" and banners criticising the Americans and calling on DIC to launch a bid were held aloft on The Kop during the FA Cup win against Luton.

Liverpool supporters are also concerned at how much of the £350m loan will be shifted on to the club's books - with crippling interest payments.

They will also have to fund the £300m stadium plan, with a decision expected soon after two new designs were studied by Gillett and Hicks, along with chief executive Rick Parry, in New York earlier this month.

A spokesman for the Americans said on Thursday: "Any suggestion Hicks and Gillett are contemplating a sale of the club or any portion of it is categorically untrue."

DIC backed away from a £150m price tag for a 15% stake in Liverpool last October, but the financial uncertainty surrounding the club has increased and there is hope a new offer will prove more tempting.


BBC seem to have fallen in line now with the new figure of £350million. Sounds about right so now all I want is them to just say yes. Really does sound now as if they are only arguing over a few points and there is a good chance it will succeed. 
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:43 pm

Those same fans who gave us the  "remember Valencia" when we doubted the methodology for the last three or four seasons, who assured all and sundry that at the end of this seasons rainbow the holy grail would be if not quite in our grasp very close to it, will no doubt pounce on this "saviour" stuff and cling to it.


I can just see it now.
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:45 pm

s@int wrote:Liverpool braced for takeover bid 
By Phil McNulty
Chief football writer 

Dubai International Capital - the investment arm of the Dubai Government - is ready to table a new £350m bid to buy Liverpool Football Club.

BBC Sport understands DIC has drawn up plans to take control from American duo George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

But the deal is subject to conditions which Gillett and Hicks are currently unwilling to meet.

DIC was originally thought to be ready to make an offer for Hicks' 50% share, but now favours a total buy-out.

DIC was close to buying the club in January 2007, but pulled out when Liverpool refused to agree to a deadline on the deal and moved into advanced negotiations with Hicks and Gillett.

The interest has now been seriously revived, but DIC is insistent it will not pay over the odds to buy the club, and until Gillett and Hicks agree to certain terms contained within the deal, an impasse has been reached.

Joe McLean, who is a football finance expert with accountants Grant Thornton, told BBC Radio Five Live: "The talk at the moment is that there will be some hard bargaining going on and it may take a few weeks before it is resolved."

DIC has put together a package of around £350m to put to Gillett and Hicks, which also includes taking on the debts incurred by the pair when they took control in March last year.

Gillett and Hicks' reign has caused turmoil on and off the pitch at Liverpool, and DIC has always maintained a close eye on Liverpool's situation, despite the collapse of the previous deal.

The Americans are currently attempting to finalise terms on a £350m loan that would enable them to repay money borrowed for their £218.9m takeover, repay loans used to sign players, and enable them to start work on a re-scaled plan for a new stadium in Stanley Park.

DIC hopes the offer would present the American duo with a get-out clause before they take out the massive loan.

McLean believes that bankers could try to encourage that to happen and he says that even if Gillett and Hicks do strike a refinancing deal, it would only be a prelude to them selling the club.

Hicks, in particular, is under pressure after being subjected to heavy criticism from fans following public disagreements with popular manager Rafael Benitez.

He has also come under fire for his admission that talks had been held with Jurgen Klinsmann about possibly succeeding the Spaniard.

Liverpool fans will turn up the heat on Gillett and Hicks with an orchestrated protest at Monday night's game against Aston Villa.

Website Reclaim The Kop issued a statement claiming they were "not fit to be associated with our club" and banners criticising the Americans and calling on DIC to launch a bid were held aloft on The Kop during the FA Cup win against Luton.

Liverpool supporters are also concerned at how much of the £350m loan will be shifted on to the club's books - with crippling interest payments.

They will also have to fund the £300m stadium plan, with a decision expected soon after two new designs were studied by Gillett and Hicks, along with chief executive Rick Parry, in New York earlier this month.

A spokesman for the Americans said on Thursday: "Any suggestion Hicks and Gillett are contemplating a sale of the club or any portion of it is categorically untrue."

DIC backed away from a £150m price tag for a 15% stake in Liverpool last October, but the financial uncertainty surrounding the club has increased and there is hope a new offer will prove more tempting.


BBC seem to have fallen in line now with the new figure of £350million. Sounds about right so now all I want is them to just say yes. Really does sound now as if they are only arguing over a few points and there is a good chance it will succeed. 

yes it seem it is only a few points, but they still have to get HICKS to put a pen in his hand.

The way things have gone for Hicks i can not see manu companies working with him from now on.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:51 pm

Ciggy wrote:When I buy Liverpool you can come and play for us lad :D

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We can only dream at that cigg with these two gobs.hites in charge.
I think everyone should turn up tomorrow dressed as a sheikh  :D grab yer mams best white sheet and a curtain tassle imagine that on the kop thousands dressed as Shiekhs do you think the gimps would get the message then :D
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Postby Paul C » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:05 pm

I know money talks but I don't know if the yanks will sell, if they do then they should get a decent enough profit to make it worth their while.

I just hope DIC get this sorted out soon, hopefully before the transfer window closes :;):
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