Job too big for Rodgers?

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Is the job too big for Rodgers and last season was a flash in the pan down to Suarez carrying us?

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Postby leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:03 pm

you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.
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Postby leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:06 pm

is deplore actually a word? I might've made that up haha
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:09 pm

Buck Rodgers » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:17 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:10 pm wrote:
Kash_Mountain » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:32 pm wrote:
You seem to forget that BR has final say on who comes in. The Committee, which he is very much part of, can recommend players to him etc, but the final say is his.


Your wasting your time with this kash  :nod
The evidence is there in the form of an interview rodgers gave to pearce last year in which he said he has 1st and last say over transfers. It has been posted on here several times but yet largely ignored.


And it wouldn't be the first time interviews have been full of false information

Remember when BR said we had zero interest in Balotelli


You don't have to tell me he is a liar  :no I have worked that out a long time ago for myself thank you  :nod

I remember when he categorically denied he would be a liverpool player. Thats the interview you are talking about isn't it ?. What happened then ? mario became a liverpool player and had he of being a success here last season you would be saying how shrewd brendan was in deflecting attention from the transfer. But when he fails like he did it suits to say he was never interested in him in the first place and it was the committee's fault. He also at the time wouldn't sign off on the deal until he got the assurances he wanted off mario so he had the final say, Unless he was trying to make himself sound important again  :eyebrow

From my recollection we only ended up with this committee because he wouldn't accept a DOF. Why didn't he want one ? Was it because he would sign players ?  :nod So he says no to one man heavily connected within the sport and agrees to maybe several and a computer who have no connections  :laugh: There is a committee there to help him but as he said in his interview he has the first and last say on who comes in.

Its always been brendans way or the highway  :nod  The fact that you disregard what he honestly said in an interview and deduct your own cryptic shyte from it is truly a talent  :nod

He has already claimed back in january that we will be title challengers next season  :nod  I'll quote him for you. "Come the summer, the period of integration will be complete and then we can compete like we did last year for the title" .
Would he make those claims if someone was buying players he didn't want and was forcing them on him  :no
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Postby leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:14 pm

yes of course he would make them claims because he's representing the club and he has to stand by what the club does. He's hardly gonna say " we wont be anywhere near the top cos they'll buy me a right load of sh!t"
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Postby Buck Rodgers » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:29 pm

leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:03 pm wrote:you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.


Is that in response to anyone in particular ?
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:33 pm

leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:14 pm wrote:yes of course he would make them claims because he's representing the club and he has to stand by what the club does. He's hardly gonna say " we wont be anywhere near the top cos they'll buy me a right load of sh!t"


Again how is it that what he says gets disregarded and what he doesn't say become's the truth  :laugh:  How is it that you can differentiate ? Is he telling the world one thing and then secretly telling a few in the know like yourself  :;): the real story ?.
He made those claims because as usual he cannot keep his ego in check and after having stopped a decline in results with a bit of a turnaround he became untouchable again.

He already has gone on record when he got the job stating he was no yes man but now i get it  :nod He is just a scapegoat who is getting bullied by by the CEO, A few yanks and a piece of software.
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Postby Buck Rodgers » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:34 pm

red till i die!! » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:09 pm wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:17 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:10 pm wrote:
Your wasting your time with this kash  :nod
The evidence is there in the form of an interview rodgers gave to pearce last year in which he said he has 1st and last say over transfers. It has been posted on here several times but yet largely ignored.


And it wouldn't be the first time interviews have been full of false information

Remember when BR said we had zero interest in Balotelli


You don't have to tell me he is a liar  :no I have worked that out a long time ago for myself thank you  :nod

I remember when he categorically denied he would be a liverpool player. Thats the interview you are talking about isn't it ?. What happened then ? mario became a liverpool player and had he of being a success here last season you would be saying how shrewd brendan was in deflecting attention from the transfer. But when he fails like he did it suits to say he was never interested in him in the first place and it was the committee's fault. He also at the time wouldn't sign off on the deal until he got the assurances he wanted off mario so he had the final say, Unless he was trying to make himself sound important again  :eyebrow

From my recollection we only ended up with this committee because he wouldn't accept a DOF. Why didn't he want one ? Was it because he would sign players ?  :nod So he says no to one man heavily connected within the sport and agrees to maybe several and a computer who have no connections  :laugh: There is a committee there to help him but as he said in his interview he has the first and last say on who comes in.

Its always been brendans way or the highway  :nod  The fact that you disregard what he honestly said in an interview and deduct your own cryptic shyte from it is truly a talent  :nod

He has already claimed back in january that we will be title challengers next season  :nod  I'll quote him for you. "Come the summer, the period of integration will be complete and then we can compete like we did last year for the title" .
Would he make those claims if someone was buying players he didn't want and was forcing them on him  :no


I'm trying to figure out within that jumbled mess of words where your point is ?

I do see more attacks on the manager and also posters who post something you don't agree with

And if you believe everything you read in the media from any manager then that's more fool you

If BR wanted Balotelli he could have had him at the beginning of the summer - he wanted other strikers and in the end the committee got Balotelli - a player unsuited to the one BR wanted the team to play. It's clear which players BR wanted and which ones he didn't
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Postby leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:42 pm

Buck Rodgers » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:29 am wrote:
leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:03 pm wrote:you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.


Is that in response to anyone in particular ?


yes mate, ycsatbjywtbiastkamb
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Postby maguskwt » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:09 pm

leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:42 am wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:29 am wrote:
leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:03 pm wrote:you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.


Is that in response to anyone in particular ?


yes mate, ycsatbjywtbiastkamb

You got it wrong leeroy, yakka has been supporting Rodgers all this while. What he has against is the owners/ the transfer committee/ the manager/ or whoever the feck in this cluster feck going for players he deems are average such as Milner and Ings. If you look back at this thread, you can find he is a strong supporter of Rodgers so much so that at one point he was the only poster rebutting the whinging committee  :laugh:
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Postby leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:53 pm

fair enough, mistaken identity on my part, not sure who I'm thinking of then I was sure it was him.

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:44 pm

leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:03 am wrote:you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.


Me? Like what?
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:11 pm

Maybe this will clear up a few things  :laugh:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ol-control
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Friday 1 June 2012 23.01 BST Last modified on Wednesday 21 May 2014 03.31 BST
Brendan Rodgers agreed to become Liverpool's manager only after the owners, Fenway Sports Group, shelved plans for a sporting director in Louis van Gaal, with the 39-year-old saying he needs "to be in control of the team".

The Northern Irishman was unveiled as Kenny Dalglish's successor at Anfield having signed a three-year contract that includes an agreement not to raid Swansea City for players in the next year. He will be accompanied by three members of his back-room team from Swansea, his assistant, Colin Pascoe, the conditioning expert Glen Driscoll and the chief match analyst, Chris Davies, and those plans have prompted the departure of Dalglish's former assistant, Steve Clarke.

FSG approached several candidates for the managerial vacancy but, as Liverpool's chairman, Tom Werner, confirmed, Rodgers was the only person offered the position. However, the former Watford, and Reading manager, who rejected Liverpool's initial approach for an interview, only accepted after three meetings with FSG convinced the owners to dilute plans for a new management structure led by Louis van Gaal.

Ian Ayre, Liverpool's managing director, explained: "The structure – and Brendan is aware of this – is a more continental director of football-type structure, a collaborative group of people working around the football area." But it is one with Rodgers at the head and with control over football operations and transfers.

Liverpool's new manager said: "The owners probably spoke to one or two people about certain roles but I wanted clarity on it [the structure] and I didn't agree until after three discussions with them. I wanted to make sure it was going to be the case that I would be in charge of football matters. That I would control the team, control the work and then what we have underpinning that is a team all with one vision and one mentality – that is to make the first team better. If it was anything other than that then I couldn't have said yes because that's not my strength.


"I am better when I have control. I am not a power freak. But my point is that I need to feel that I can manage the team and have a direct clear line through to the owners. Once that becomes hazy, for me there is a problem. I don't think it was a model the owners were set on, by any means. I think it is one that people have come to them and suggested. They are still learning about the game.

"One of the items I brought up when I was speaking to the club was that I wouldn't directly work with a director of football. I feel that if you are going to do that as a club you have to do that first. That was my recommendation. If you want to have a sporting director, get him in and then you can pick your manager from there but if you do I won't be the manager."


Asked if he had 100% confidence that Liverpool will only sign players he identifies, Rodgers said: "Yes. It's absolute madness if you are the manager of the club and someone else tells you to have that player. It doesn't work. I've had total clarity with that from the guys so I've got confidence that will remain. It was for this reason that I didn't want to be sat up there, say what I've said and then in three weeks time Louis van Gaal walks in the door."

Rodgers called Steven Gerrard on Thursday to introduce himself to the Liverpool captain, and the midfielder said: "I've been kept in the loop all along by the board and the owners, and he was first-choice. So take no notice of Dave Whelan."

This was 3 years ago before he even set foot in the place and were the conditions on which he accepted the job.

Why is it now that no one believes him and puts the blame at the door of a fictitious set-up when he is quite clearly calling the shots.

Oh yeah, Silly me :blush:  He only said those things because the Club put him up to it  :suspect:
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:14 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:44 pm wrote:
leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:03 am wrote:you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.


Me? Like what?


:laugh:
Cmo'n yakka put your hand up and admit you are the worst on here for sticking it to the gaffer  :D
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Postby leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:36 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:44 pm wrote:
leeroy74 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:03 am wrote:you've been one of the forefront leaders in the campaign against him so don't come over the righteous one all of a sudden. you are a shocking example of a fan and I believe you actually are a fan too, I've nothing personal against you, I just deplore some of the things you've said.


Me? Like what?


read the post above
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:38 pm

I see the fixtures are out tomorrow, I bet Brendan is praying that he doesn't end up with the type of opening run of games that he had in his first season here, a terrible start could see him gone.
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