Brendan Rodgers thread (signs extended contract)

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Postby parchpea » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:24 pm

Nobody cares less about these monthly awards but it is nice to see the club getting some positive headlines
and feedback for a change and its been a while lets face it.

Enjoy whilst it lasts and long may it continue.
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Postby red till i die!! » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:16 am

fully deserved by both  :nod
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:18 am

Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:12 pm wrote:Premature IMO. Will he get manager of the season though? Or a P45 come May 2014.
Its a fine line between success and failure.


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Postby damjan193 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:55 am

Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:12 pm wrote:Premature IMO. Will he get manager of the season though? Or a P45 come May 2014.
Its a fine line between success and failure.

Seriously, how is it premature? It's f*cking September.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:32 pm

rodgers had a poor first few months in charge but since christmas he has been exceptional, that is the only way to describe the fact that since last january we have earned more points than united (and they won the league).
we are not talking a few weeks here or a couple of months, we are halfway through september, granted a few of those months have been the summer off season but never the less to go 9 months of a 12 month calender year and accrue more points that the team that won the title takes some doing.
so credit where it`s due, brendan has got us punching above our weight and not only that we are playing the game in the right way too, some of our footy at the end of last season was great to watch.
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:43 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:32 pm wrote:rodgers had a poor first few months in charge but since christmas he has been exceptional, that is the only way to describe the fact that since last january we have earned more points than united (and they won the league).
we are not talking a few weeks here or a couple of months, we are halfway through september, granted a few of those months have been the summer off season but never the less to go 9 months of a 12 month calender year and accrue more points that the team that won the title takes some doing.
so credit where it`s due, brendan has got us punching above our weight and not only that we are playing the game in the right way too, some of our footy at the end of last season was great to watch.


This club is certainly not punching above its weight, far from it if you look at the bigger picture.

I think stats like these can be slightly mis-leading. I agree, to have taken more points over this period is definately something to be pleased with, but, unfortunately the season doesn't run over the course of the last nine months.

To be fair, I do like Rodgers, I think he may well grow into this role and its starting to look like he understands that signing players like Borini and Allen won't win the fans over. But he still has a massive amount to prove for me in terms of his ambition in the transfer market, can he use money wisely, can he spot talent early and produce it and ultimately is he going to be the man to get us back into the top four, then challenging again for titles.

What I will say is, when he's interviewed he's nearly as bad as Villas Boas to listen to. He talks utter ***** :D I can forgive that if he does the business though.
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Postby kartiek » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:00 pm

I have to say, this forum is filled with people with a ridiculous sense of expectations. People still moaning over and over about perceived Rodgers' transfer market failings - I mean you've got to be kidding me, we've been absolutely Excellent, with a capital E under him in the transfer market - in today's times, getting good value for good players is tough, but we've really spent money wisely and spent it on talented people. And he speaks rubbish in interviews? Thought he was great all summer. The owners are sh*t? I think there's nothing really to suggest we've not had money to spend.

The bloody moaning that goes around, FFS
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Postby RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:04 pm

Will you afford him the time though Stu, considering this is a huge experience for Rodgers too? Such a step up to from the Swans to us must come with a safe learning curve, else we'd be no better than the throw-away clubs. Rodgers is inexperienced at our level, but so long as he is learning, then he's still growing into his capacity.

Take into account the improvements we've seen, and the areas people think he's not impressed, and supposing he won't make the same mistakes twice, how long would you realistically give him, and to achieve what?
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:21 pm

kartiek » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:00 pm wrote:I have to say, this forum is filled with people with a ridiculous sense of expectations. People still moaning over and over about perceived Rodgers' transfer market failings - I mean you've got to be kidding me, we've been absolutely Excellent, with a capital E under him in the transfer market - in today's times, getting good value for good players is tough, but we've really spent money wisely and spent it on talented people. And he speaks rubbish in interviews? Thought he was great all summer. The owners are sh*t? I think there's nothing really to suggest we've not had money to spend.

The bloody moaning that goes around, FFS


Your version of excellent and mine is clearly very different. Sakho is a complete unknown, most people haven't even heard of him, let alone seen him play so how you can sit there and tell me he's excellent before he's even kicked a ball for the club is quite frankly pathetic. Ilori, again, never even heard of him, never seen him play. How can you sit there and say that's £24m well spent? I'm not saying its poorly spent, but at the moment its defenately a long way from "exellent".

Also what about the £25m wasted on Borini and Allen... let me say that again, just incase you missed it... TWENTY FIVE MILLION POUNDS, that would buy you at least one top player, if you use it wisely you could probably get two very good players for that money, instead we ended up with an absoloute shocker of a player in Borini and an average player in Allen.
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:37 pm

RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:04 pm wrote:Will you afford him the time though Stu, considering this is a huge experience for Rodgers too? Such a step up to from the Swans to us must come with a safe learning curve, else we'd be no better than the throw-away clubs. Rodgers is inexperienced at our level, but so long as he is learning, then he's still growing into his capacity.

Take into account the improvements we've seen, and the areas people think he's not impressed, and supposing he won't make the same mistakes twice, how long would you realistically give him, and to achieve what?


I judge a manager on merrit, if we have a poor season this year, then in the summer Rodgers ships out the junk and strengthens wisely then I'd be more than happy for him to stay.

If we have a bad season and he stands by Allen, Borini, Henderson, Johnson etc then for me he's gotta go.

I'm not a fan of chopping and changing, but I wouldn't say... you've got five years to do this or that.

For me, you get one year to achieve something realistic. You succeed, you get another year to achieve something realistic etc etc. That doesn't mean if you fail your out... there could be reasons why you fail which would obviously be taken into account. If we lost Suarez to injury and Gerrard for example and finished seventh or eighth then you could understand the faiiliure and you would probably get time to put it right.
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:41 pm

damjan193 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:55 am wrote:
Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:12 pm wrote:Premature IMO. Will he get manager of the season though? Or a P45 come May 2014.
Its a fine line between success and failure.

Seriously, how is it premature? It's f*cking September.


I'll have to use that line with the Mrs...

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Postby RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:06 pm

StuYesThatStu » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:41 pm wrote:
damjan193 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:55 am wrote:
Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:12 pm wrote:Premature IMO. Will he get manager of the season though? Or a P45 come May 2014.
Its a fine line between success and failure.

Seriously, how is it premature? It's f*cking September.


I'll have to use that line with the Mrs...

:D


I dread to think of a conversation where that might be a valid response.
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Postby RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:11 pm

StuYesThatStu » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:37 pm wrote:
RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:04 pm wrote:Will you afford him the time though Stu, considering this is a huge experience for Rodgers too? Such a step up to from the Swans to us must come with a safe learning curve, else we'd be no better than the throw-away clubs. Rodgers is inexperienced at our level, but so long as he is learning, then he's still growing into his capacity.

Take into account the improvements we've seen, and the areas people think he's not impressed, and supposing he won't make the same mistakes twice, how long would you realistically give him, and to achieve what?


I judge a manager on merrit, if we have a poor season this year, then in the summer Rodgers ships out the junk and strengthens wisely then I'd be more than happy for him to stay.

If we have a bad season and he stands by Allen, Borini, Henderson, Johnson etc then for me he's gotta go.

I'm not a fan of chopping and changing, but I wouldn't say... you've got five years to do this or that.

For me, you get one year to achieve something realistic. You succeed, you get another year to achieve something realistic etc etc. That doesn't mean if you fail your out... there could be reasons why you fail which would obviously be taken into account. If we lost Suarez to injury and Gerrard for example and finished seventh or eighth then you could understand the faiiliure and you would probably get time to put it right.


Then we're on the same page, mostly. What I don't get is your impatience, or why you're so quick to see it all going wrong. I'm too lazy, and forgetful to list positives vs negatives, but most of us right now think things are going nifty.

Ya know when you step outside, expecting rain, but really mister sun has got his hat on, at least for a bit, well, hurray :)
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:23 pm

Has fully deserved the award - 4 wins in a month there was no other winner. Hopefully doesn't get the curse afterwards and keeps going
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:37 pm

RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:06 pm wrote:
I dread to think of a conversation where that might be a valid response.


:laugh: Why? Long as I get what I want f*ck her

No am only joking :D
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