Brendan Rodgers thread (signs extended contract)

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 20, 2013 11:23 am

Benny The Noon » Mon May 20, 2013 9:54 am wrote:He was one of the players on the list for signings in the summer recommended to Kenny by Segura along with players like Valbuena and Diame.


never heard of this list before, and why was the head of the academy (as segura was when kenny was in charge) advising the manager who to sign?
it was only when kenny was sacked that segura was mentioned as a possible DoF.
at least thats my understanding of the situation anyway.
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Postby red till i die!! » Mon May 20, 2013 11:46 am

if segura is indeed the one who brought coutinho here then he should be allowed continue to sign players this year.
i will credit sturridge to rodgers and he probably was one of the failures on deadline day. no fault of rodgers but sturridge as he wanted to stay with the chavs and only when it became clear that he wasnt going to feature for them he resurrected it again in january.
rodgers signings last year were fooking cack and a waste of money tbh. allen maybe has potential but brendan went gung ho on him and he never improved us one bit. should have waited till this year to sign him and probably would only have cost half of what we paid  :nod . he also seems to have zero fooking faith in borini so that leads me to question why he even signed him. yes he had injurys but when fit he is constantly being overlooked and i was shocked to see ibe start ahead of him yesterday. waste of money so far.
assaidi is another who cant even get a look in and tbh from what ive seen of him its obvious why. waste of money.
fsg are no fools when it comes to spending their money and i wouldnt be surprised if brendan has lost that privelage based on last summers exploits.
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Postby stmichael » Mon May 20, 2013 12:06 pm

we got 9 more points in the league than we did last season scoring 29 more goals in the process. how anyone can say we haven't progressed is beyond me. the league position is only one place higher as the league as a whole this season amassed more points. spurs finished 5th with the highest points total ever.

it's clear that defence is where we need to be looking to improve next season. really hope johnson stays but if skrtel leaves as expected we need two centre backs and also a defensive midfielder who can compete with lucas for that birth. do that and we'll be laughing.

all in all i think the manager will have learnt a lot in the last 12 months. in the end we suffered from a poor start and dropping sloppy points against the likes of west brom, stoke and villa. we also had a poor record against the top 6 even though we should have beat man city home and away, arsenal away and man united at home as we were the better team in all those games and threw away leads.

i'm generally optimistic though. roll on next season.
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Postby Green Environment » Mon May 20, 2013 3:57 pm

Well the press have been saying that BR will only be funded with 20Million to recruit players for next season. Is that correct or just rumours? If it is true, then be prepared to finish 7th or mid table again next season and don't have any high expectations at all even if we have a Mourinho or a Guardiola in charge, all thanks to our stingy or impoverished owners. If they're going to give this kind of miserable funding, then they must sell up to someone who is willing to fund much more than that.
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Postby devaney » Mon May 20, 2013 4:27 pm

Green Environment » Mon May 20, 2013 2:57 pm wrote:Well the press have been saying that BR will only be funded with 20Million to recruit players for next season. Is that correct or just rumours? If it is true, then be prepared to finish 7th or mid table again next season and don't have any high expectations at all even if we have a Mourinho or a Guardiola in charge, all thanks to our stingy or impoverished owners. If they're going to give this kind of miserable funding, then they must sell up to someone who is willing to fund much more than that.


FSG are not a registered charity to the best of my knowledge !! Lousy previous owners, poor management, stupid expensive purchases and bad policy decisions  over a number of years have contributed towards our present state. A simple overnight fix is nothing more than a pipe dream.

BR is moving in the right direction. If he sells players to the value of £20m and buys sensibly with £40m then I certainly don't think the future is all doom and gloom.
Net Spend Over The Last 5 Years 20/21 to 24/25  (10 years
are in brackets 15/16 to 24/25 )
LFC €300m (€420m)
Everton +€33m (€211m)
Arsenal €557m (€853m)
Spurs €571m (€684m)
Chelsea €945m (€1051m)
Man City €370m (€1038m)
Man United €687m (€1240m)
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Mon May 20, 2013 4:36 pm

Green Environment » Mon May 20, 2013 2:57 pm wrote:Well the press have been saying that BR will only be funded with 20Million to recruit players for next season. Is that correct or just rumours? If it is true, then be prepared to finish 7th or mid table again next season and don't have any high expectations at all even if we have a Mourinho or a Guardiola in charge, all thanks to our stingy or impoverished owners. If they're going to give this kind of miserable funding, then they must sell up to someone who is willing to fund much more than that.


If that is the case (nothing confirmed I see) then it is disappointing. However I disagree that we would repeat this seasons performance again.

Countinho and Sturridge have had a big impact in 6 months, most agree that had we signed them pre-season we'd have been in with a shout of CL football. Next season, even with no changes we would improve on 7th.
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Postby redno7 » Mon May 20, 2013 4:50 pm

Green Environment » Mon May 20, 2013 2:57 pm wrote:Well the press have been saying that BR will only be funded with 20Million to recruit players for next season. Is that correct or just rumours? If it is true, then be prepared to finish 7th or mid table again next season and don't have any high expectations at all even if we have a Mourinho or a Guardiola in charge, all thanks to our stingy or impoverished owners. If they're going to give this kind of miserable funding, then they must sell up to someone who is willing to fund much more than that.


It's rumours. The press know fek all about our finances which is why they make sh!t like this up. We know fek all, press know fek all, the players also probably know fek all. The only people at this stage in time that know any figures for transfer window are FSG and possibly the Liverpool Board (ayres etc). I'd be suprised if BR has even found out any figures yet so how the fek the press think they know is beyond me.
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Postby redno7 » Mon May 20, 2013 4:53 pm

we do know however that we'll be in the market for some additions to the team as BR actually did say this on Sunday post match. So as I see it, he knows where he needs to sort and he's got the players penciled in. He'll be hoping the money is there for him to fulfil this list. If not, it's as you were only next season we'll have Courtinho and Sturridge from match number 1
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Postby red till i die!! » Mon May 20, 2013 8:06 pm

this is a good read.

Home   >   Opinion   >   A look at Rodgers, the Season and the Future for LFC
A look at Rodgers, the Season and the Future for LFC
By John Ritchie on May 20, 2013
So much criticism has come from Liverpool fans this year given Brendan Rodgers’s relative in-experience in management; despite the Northern Irishman’s wealth of experience in coaching for over twenty years, Rodgers has only been the top man for five of those years.


Brendan knew he was walking straight into the lions den that Anfield has become of late; his first press conference was impressive, yet in the background the club was in an internal shake up – new scouts, new coaches, and new transfer policies. The ‘operational issues’ he cited after the debacle that was the end to the summer transfer window, the early mistakes that saw Liverpool start the campaign in frustration, the open letter from John W Henry, the documentary all fans would soon learn to curse Being Liverpool – a hit in the US, an embarrassment for anyone Scouse or in the UK, didn’t give the Northern Irishman the best of starts.

And yet it would be fair to say, in my opinion anyway, he’s managed to get through the season and come out with some credit. Liverpool finish the campaign in the top 4 for goals scored in the league and we’ve conceded as many goals as the Champions of England. There’s a tactical pragmatism that’s crept into Rodgers’ side that none of us expected; the early on tika-taka has seemingly gone, yet we’re now one of the best passing sides in Europe (8th) and those above us include Bayern Munich, Manchester United, PSG, Milan and Barcelona.

The reality is, with all of that said, nobody gets any prizes for winning the passing. The stats tell a story of a side improving technically and tactically, but not being able to consistently deliver the performance level they needed to really push on this season. The cup runs have been, to say the least, woeful. The Luis Suarez show was not enough to put us through.

The problems in dealing with big, strong centre forwards have been continuing to hurt us all season. Benteke and Lukaku are still words that are not spoken of lightly by Liverpool fans and let’s not mention Stoke. The defensive mistakes that saw Liverpool throw away a grand total of 12 points (Everton A, Man City H/A, Arsenal A) that would have seen Liverpool knocking on the door of the top 4, if not marching in it; 4 Games, 4 big mistakes. It’s amazing when you look at it like that.

As we enter the summer we should take with us a renewed hope that with a few quality additions Liverpool can push on and make a challenge at the top of the table next season. There’s no way we’ll win the league, but a fifth or fourth place finish shouldn’t be out of our reach.

2012/13 saw impressive debut seasons from Raheem Sterling, Andre Wisdom and Suso. The revelation of the final day of the season saw a remarkable debut performance from Jordan Ibe who skipped past the QPR players with a confidence and skill which belies the fact he’s 17, never played in a senior game but looked for forty minutes like one of the most composed players on the park. With other notable debuts coming from the academy, Liverpool fans can once again believe that the Academy is brimming with talent and it’s starting to produce the goods which is players fit to wear the Red shirt and the Liverbird on their chest.

However complacency should not cloud our judgement, this is a squad in need of a massive injection of quality; mistakes come not just from bad luck but from players not good enough to compete at the top. All sides will improve next season and despite the confusion that new management will bring to City, Chelsea and United nobody should underestimate how soon hope can be turned into despair. Our very own fall from grace after 08/09 should be a memory that serves well for the fans as well as the club. Liverpool who were arguably one of the best sides in Europe that season through bad judgement well and truly fell of their perch. A promising end to a season counts for nothing if form cannot be continued into the next.

Another sign of encouragement for fans should be Rodgers statements of late; he’s come out and admitted he needed this experience and the ‘grace’ of a transition season. He said recently:
“This year has provided a great learning curve for me and I look back and see that it was learning that I needed. I knew the expectancy of the club but going into next season, I am a much better prepared manager for that. We want to make significant improvements next year in the points total because the reality is we are 30 points behind the leaders and 11 points behind the top four.

“But I’ve seen enough and if we improve our mentality in the summer – by signing players who have that consistent winning mentality – we can then improve again, like we have done in the second half of the season

That’s the job of the recruitment team and the club to identify those types of players.  They might not always be the best players but what we need in the second year of this project is to find a great level of consistency.  There is a process of getting into the top four and becoming champions and that is consistency.”

He also told talkSPORT recently that he felt Liverpool should be pushing for trophies next season which again as fans we should welcome. I don’t subscribe to the often touted phrase that Liverpool is all about winning trophies as it implies some sort of divine right to the fact that we should be champions regardless of what we do. Success can be bought, however more than often it is earned, just look at Manchester City this season.

However, I do feel that the club’s standards should always be to win, win more and keep winning but for that to happen we’ve got to earn the right to compete and to finish on top, not just because we are Liverpool, but because we’ve worked hard, grafted and earned our success on the pitch.

As a fan who loves the club as much as the next person, I feel the same anxiety and fears and most of you reading this. Every game I spent mostly biting my nails, cheering like a loon, holding my head in my hands in despair. The TV’s nearly taken a leap out of the window on more than once and I’ve nearly fallen off my seat in the stand in rage.

Yet on more than a few occasions this year I’ve been blown away by some of our play; our signings in Daniel Sturridge and Phillipe Coutinho have shown what shrewd investment can do for what seems on the face of it a fairly average side. And the quality of Luis Suarez has been a joy for all to see. Keep working on the mental side of his game, more importantly keep hold of him in the summer and we’ll be a force to be reckoned with, of that I’m sure.

So for once in a long, long time there’s positive signs coming from the club. Ian Ayre stating on the final day of the season that Liverpool were backing the manager and will back him in the summer once again.

The challenge the club have now is to keep moving in the right direction, not only in backing the manager but doing all it can not to isolate some of the support that’s been so crucial to our success over the years. The great man Carra said himself to the fans today ‘you’ve dragged us over the line more than once over the years’ – this is crucial if the club are to succeed going forward; football without fans really is nothing after all.

Now Rodgers must keep learning and adapting if he’s to be ultimately successful at his tenure in the hot seat at Anfield; having a philosophy is fine, but it’s only good if it achieves results… Take note Brendan the countless long balls from Gerrard, Enrique and even Wisdom setting up some great goals from Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge; the ability to retain the ball is ideal, but to split a midfield to break the deadlock can be the difference in any season.

If you don’t believe me just ask AVB who’s shaking his head realising that at Everton he was maybe just too predictable, too reliant on his star man to always do the job. Or even look back to what Graeme Sounness used to do back in the glory days! Sometimes the tried and tested methods work the best, the teams that play the football are the ones that will come out on top.

One last thing I would add to the above, as much as the target should be to push on next season we have to give the players and the manager the kind of support they need. Liverpool may well sign some quality in the summer, but if there’s one thing it’s clear we need to improve on his mental strength. Dr Steve Peters, the world renowned psychologist now employed by Liverpool said recently:

The goals should be ‘Let’s do the best we can, be prepared as individuals, be prepared as a team, make sure we get everything right.’ These are the goals because you can control these. At the end of the day you can’t do better than your best.”

The thing is players to perform at their best need a mental freedom in order to deliver.It may take Liverpool some time to get back to the standards we all know, expect and want from our club, however we can’t control what other teams do and we can’t control the environment we find ourselves competing in. So let’s back our team, yes demand the highest standards, but allow for once the manager time to keep showing this improvement on the long road back to recovery. Hopefully that road  is one that also lead’s to glory.

source http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/05/a- ... e-for-lfc/

there ya go, we have a recruitment team  :buttrock
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Postby Thommo's perm » Mon May 27, 2013 10:59 am

Cally knows what hes talking about:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest- ... pirit-back

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Postby killerp » Thu May 30, 2013 2:01 am

We are going to sign Lago Aspas?? http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/media-w ... triker-fee

Not sure about this one but I will keep the faith, surely the scouts have done their homework

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:14 pm

it was exactly a year ago today that brendan rodgers took over the reigns at anfield.
he`s been through a hell of a lot over the last 12 months - the transfer deadline day debacle, fulham reporting him to the F.A, having to fend off bids last summer for the likes of suarez, agger, skrtel and even suso, documentary t.v camera`s shoved in his face as soon as he walked through the door, our worst start in 100 years, having the huge responsibility of being the figurehead of the club when the hillsborough panel`s report was released (shaking the foundations of the country), being in charge of liverpool when alex ferguson took the momentous decision to retire after nearly 30 years in charge of united, suarez biting ivanovic`s arm, suarez deciding he wants to leave etc etc etc
i think rodgers has done really well, this is one of the most high pressure jobs in football.
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Postby redno7 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:14 am

i agree, well done BR now let's move it up a gear or 3 and push for that 4th place
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:20 am

Needs a massive improvement next season and he needs a very successful summer spending to help him get that.
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Postby redno7 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:13 pm

not disputing that, just giving some credit where it's due now.
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