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Kenny inherited a squad which had been declining for two years and not all of his buys were terrible. Kenny got a winning mentality back in the cups last season even if the league performances fell away.

That said Rome wasn't built in a day and he was in the process of building something that wasn't going to be achieved overnight. The problem was that the expectations were such after the spending that he embarked on in 2011 that an eighth placed finish even with the success in the cups proved not to be enough to retain him.

Brendan is almost certain to get longer than a season and a half because the owners know that only continuity and stability now will bring about a reversal of fortunes in the long term on the pitch. Time will tell as to how far Brendan can take Liverpool but at the moment he's doing ok with the squad of players he has at his disposal.

We need to stick with Rodgers, this whole sack the manager at a whim and then bring in the next flavour of the month doesn't work, it just creates instability and insecurity amongst the players and the supporters. I have seen enough progress this season under Rodgers to know that he is the right man not only to get us back on track, but to get us the success that we crave. People mention that his Swansea side scored the least amount of goals in the league, they conceded a lot, he was sacked after 20 games at Reading, blah, blah, blah! That was then and this is now - he has shown boldness, he has shown bottle, he has shown tactical flexibility, he has shown he isn't frightened to take a risk. I think with the right backing, he'll bring in the right players for his system and we will see a much improved side.

I think we've been better than our league position and points tally suggests. We deserved to beat Man City, we deserved to beat United and we were denied the 3 points against Everton. We could have beaten Chelsea had Enrique scored with his shot. That's 12 points we probably should have had, instead we have taken 3 points from those 12. The only game we have been really poor in was against Arsenal, where Suarez and Gerrard performed like Sunday League players.

We'll get there, but the worst thing we can do is continue this path of chopping and changing managers. It's not a good precedent and Rodgers understands what this club is about and he seems driven and determined to lead us to success, what more can anyone want from a young manager? I think he's been a breath of fresh air to us and you'd have to an idiot to write him off. If Jose Mourinho says you're a good manager, you're a good manager, no question about it.

Boxscarf » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:52 pm wrote:We need to stick with Rodgers, this whole sack the manager at a whim and then bring in the next flavour of the month doesn't work, it just creates instability and insecurity amongst the players and the supporters. I have seen enough progress this season under Rodgers to know that he is the right man not only to get us back on track, but to get us the success that we crave. People mention that his Swansea side scored the least amount of goals in the league, they conceded a lot, he was sacked after 20 games at Reading, blah, blah, blah! That was then and this is now - he has shown boldness, he has shown bottle, he has shown tactical flexibility, he has shown he isn't frightened to take a risk. I think with the right backing, he'll bring in the right players for his system and we will see a much improved side.

I think we've been better than our league position and points tally suggests. We deserved to beat Man City, we deserved to beat United and we were denied the 3 points against Everton. We could have beaten Chelsea had Enrique scored with his shot. That's 12 points we probably should have had, instead we have taken 3 points from those 12. The only game we have been really poor in was against Arsenal, where Suarez and Gerrard performed like Sunday League players.

We'll get there, but the worst thing we can do is continue this path of chopping and changing managers. It's not a good precedent and Rodgers understands what this club is about and he seems driven and determined to lead us to success, what more can anyone want from a young manager? I think he's been a breath of fresh air to us and you'd have to an idiot to write him off. If Jose Mourinho says you're a good manager, you're a good manager, no question about it.

Well said

Thommo's perm » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:42 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:52 pm wrote:We need to stick with Rodgers, this whole sack the manager at a whim and then bring in the next flavour of the month doesn't work, it just creates instability and insecurity amongst the players and the supporters. I have seen enough progress this season under Rodgers to know that he is the right man not only to get us back on track, but to get us the success that we crave. People mention that his Swansea side scored the least amount of goals in the league, they conceded a lot, he was sacked after 20 games at Reading, blah, blah, blah! That was then and this is now - he has shown boldness, he has shown bottle, he has shown tactical flexibility, he has shown he isn't frightened to take a risk. I think with the right backing, he'll bring in the right players for his system and we will see a much improved side.

I think we've been better than our league position and points tally suggests. We deserved to beat Man City, we deserved to beat United and we were denied the 3 points against Everton. We could have beaten Chelsea had Enrique scored with his shot. That's 12 points we probably should have had, instead we have taken 3 points from those 12. The only game we have been really poor in was against Arsenal, where Suarez and Gerrard performed like Sunday League players.

We'll get there, but the worst thing we can do is continue this path of chopping and changing managers. It's not a good precedent and Rodgers understands what this club is about and he seems driven and determined to lead us to success, what more can anyone want from a young manager? I think he's been a breath of fresh air to us and you'd have to an idiot to write him off. If Jose Mourinho says you're a good manager, you're a good manager, no question about it.

Well said

Out of interest, what does a good season mean to you?

There is no point in getting rid of him the only man i would want is now in charge at chelsea, and we didnt even talk to him

Cant say that i'm convinced by what i've seen from Rodgers yet, but he deserves a proper chance and that means more than one season.

I,ve given up. It's like being on a roundabout now. ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND.Think you get the picture

We really, really need to get a face palm emoticon on here.

Boxscarf » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:52 pm wrote:We need to stick with Rodgers, this whole sack the manager at a whim and then bring in the next flavour of the month doesn't work, it just creates instability and insecurity amongst the players and the supporters. I have seen enough progress this season under Rodgers to know that he is the right man not only to get us back on track, but to get us the success that we crave. People mention that his Swansea side scored the least amount of goals in the league, they conceded a lot, he was sacked after 20 games at Reading, blah, blah, blah! That was then and this is now - he has shown boldness, he has shown bottle, he has shown tactical flexibility, he has shown he isn't frightened to take a risk. I think with the right backing, he'll bring in the right players for his system and we will see a much improved side.

I think we've been better than our league position and points tally suggests. We deserved to beat Man City, we deserved to beat United and we were denied the 3 points against Everton. We could have beaten Chelsea had Enrique scored with his shot. That's 12 points we probably should have had, instead we have taken 3 points from those 12. The only game we have been really poor in was against Arsenal, where Suarez and Gerrard performed like Sunday League players.

We'll get there, but the worst thing we can do is continue this path of chopping and changing managers. It's not a good precedent and Rodgers understands what this club is about and he seems driven and determined to lead us to success, what more can anyone want from a young manager? I think he's been a breath of fresh air to us and you'd have to an idiot to write him off. If Jose Mourinho says you're a good manager, you're a good manager, no question about it.

Someone with sense.

Take note Abramovic 

we drew 0-0 AWAY from home against a Swansea side that are more than capable of beating us...


...and this Swansea team play the way they do thanks to Rodgers.

The man is doing a fine job. long may it continue.

The league table is so cluttered at the moment.  2 wins in a row and we could be right up there.  2 loses in a row and we could be battling relegation.  Top 4 is still on the cards although its highly unlikely without some major reinforcements

jacdaniel » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:19 am wrote:The league table is so cluttered at the moment.  2 wins in a row and we could be right up there.  2 loses in a row and we could be battling relegation.  Top 4 is still on the cards although its highly unlikely without some major reinforcements

Sky sports have got most of us obsessed with where we are in the table. Nevertonians are squirting in their panties at being in the top four, sorry top five.
Its November for fu'cks sake.

Thommo's perm » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:26 am wrote:

jacdaniel » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:19 am wrote:The league table is so cluttered at the moment.  2 wins in a row and we could be right up there.  2 loses in a row and we could be battling relegation.  Top 4 is still on the cards although its highly unlikely without some major reinforcements

Sky sports have got most of us obsessed with where we are in the table. Nevertonians are squirting in their panties at being in the top four, sorry top five.
Its November for fu'cks sake.

Ha ha ha, I know exactly what you mean.  Usually around now though I have my first real glance at the league. 
New years day is when we should take a serious look.

So after 13 league games and some cup games too how do we rate Brendan's buys so far?

Allen is a good player.  Opinion is divided as to whether he was worth 15 mil but I think the majority are in agreement that at 15 mil he's probably a good buy.

Borini got injured early on and it's probably not fair to judge him.  Regardless I don't think anyone was too impressed by him from what they've seen so far.

Assaidi has looked good in a few european games but is still waiting for a chance in the premiership team.  At 3 mil he certainly doesn't look a waste to me.

Sahin.  Probably the one we expected to shine.  Simply put he's been sh.ite, except for a decent goalscoring display against West Brom in the league cup.

Everyone is calling for the owners to back Rodgers with money in January.  Do you think the owners will be impressed by his performance in the transfer market so far?  Even Dempsey and Sigurdsson who we also wanted are having pretty average seasons at Spurs.

Personally I think they have to back him regardless.  He is their man and the squad is painfully thin.  We are playing decent football but need some quality in the final third.  However I am just playing devil's advocate and trying to look at this from the owners' point of view.  Would you be happy to give tens of millions to Rodger in the next window?

back him, he's no mug. He knows exactly whats needed and with the right amount of funding he'll deliver those signings. If FSG decide to scrimp and scrape then he'll not be able to fulfil this and we'll end up with bargain basement. But, FSG know the score and the money will be there. I'm sure of it.

At the risk of repeating what some have already pointed out, don't bet your house on the January window. Suarez's case was different, Ajax had put him up for sale.

We may get a backup striker, but most definitely not anyone who could half fill Suarez's boots right now.