Brendan Rodgers thread (signs extended contract)

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Postby metalhead » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:21 pm

stmichael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:15 pm wrote:was impressed with his half time subs yesterday. allowed us to regain some control in the second half after we were completely outplayed for the last twenty minutes of the first half.

he was spot on after the game aswell with his comments about phil neville.


Mate, I thought he went crazy and had no clue what he was doing, but it worked for him, his substitutions and ability to change tactics over the past few games did work for him, he isn't scared to change things around when things don't go our way.
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Postby stmichael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:52 pm

we're one of the few teams over the past couple of years who have used 3 at the back. yesterday when we reverted to it we looked a lot more solid. i think it answered a lot of questions about his tactical flexibility.
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Postby tubby » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:09 pm

Had it not been for a ref blunder and an act of seflishness by Sterling we would have won yesterday by a few clear goals. I have faith in Rogers. I really hope the owners back him in the next transfer window as we are only a handful of signings away from being a good side again.
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Postby the lone wolf » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:24 pm

stmichael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:52 pm wrote:we're one of the few teams over the past couple of years who have used 3 at the back. yesterday when we reverted to it we looked a lot more solid. i think it answered a lot of questions about his tactical flexibility.


I had (still have) my doubts.
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Postby alwayslfc » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:23 am

Brendan is FSG's man, he was the one they wanted. KD was asked to replace Roy to steady the ship and to appease the fans. But he still wasn't their long term solution at the time. It was more like an SOS call to Kenny which he was too happy to oblige. They were still looking for that young manager with new ideas to run Liverpool even after appointing Kenny in the caretaking role. But because Kenny did so well in that 2nd half season raising us to 6th place from the bottom half, FSG had no choice but to appoint him permanently to avoid the wrath of the fans. Well, now with the benefit of hindsight, Kenny's next full season in charge was a nightmare with performances on the field and his blunder signings and that set FSG's plans for Liverpool back one season. If BR had been appointed in the summer of 2011 with 120 million for him to spend, I am sure things would have been much different. That is what it could have been and considering Brendan is still young and if, and that is a big IF, FSG are willing to invest heavily in January or next summer, I think we should see the best of what BR can do for Liverpool.

This season, if we can finish 5th or 6th again, I'll be very contented with BR and he is doing a good job.
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Postby laza » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:49 am

He got alot of credit in my book with his decisions when we were man down against Manchester United earlier in the season  and givings the youngsters a chance. His halftime changes during the derby just reinforced the faith

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:26 pm

stmichael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:52 pm wrote:we're one of the few teams over the past couple of years who have used 3 at the back. yesterday when we reverted to it we looked a lot more solid. i think it answered a lot of questions about his tactical flexibility.


i`d like to see us try this line up after christmas in a cup game or something.


                                                 reina

                             skrtel           coates           agger

                                     lucas (c)           allen

                  sterling                    sahin                  assaidi

                                       carroll            suarez

huge threat from set pieces (carroll, coates, skrtel and even agger), plenty of skill and guile (suarez, assaidi, sterling), two of the most industrious midfielders in the world screening the defence who also have the ability to get on the ball and build from the back (lucas and allen), a great linking midfielder who has the ability to control the tempo of a game and get in the box and score a goal himself (sahin), two flying wide midfielders who`d give any fullbacks trouble (sterling and assaidi) and 2 forwards who started to forge a decent partnership at the end of last season.
with carroll we`d also have the option of putting percentage balls into the area if our passing was slightly off.
i`d like to see that side given a run out, a good mix of power and skill and an average age of about 24. the midfield and attack are all 25 or under.
they are all players on liverpools books too.
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Postby alwayslfc » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:04 am

I don't agree with what some of you have been saying that Brendan was clever in giving the youngsters a chance. With such a thin squad and with Borini and Lucas out, he has no choice but to field the upcoming youngsters in Suso, Sterling, Wisdom. If our squad were like Man City,  I'm sure he would let the youngsters mature first before considering playing them in the first team.
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Postby damjan193 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:33 am

alwayslfc » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:04 am wrote:I don't agree with what some of you have been saying that Brendan was clever in giving the youngsters a chance. With such a thin squad and with Borini and Lucas out, he has no choice but to field the upcoming youngsters in Suso, Sterling, Wisdom. If our squad were like Man City,  I'm sure he would let the youngsters mature first before considering playing them in the first team.

He gave Sterling and Suso a chance to start instead of Downing, Cole and Henderson. Most managers wouldn't do that and that's why people praise him for those decisions.
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Postby laza » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:23 am

This article from Kristian Walsh over at EPSN was for me a good read about BR handling of the game on Sunday

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A draw for Liverpool, but victory for Brendan Rodgers


Posted by Kristian Walsh



How quickly fortune can change. Within five seconds, delirium turned into despair; despair turned into delirium. The pendulum swings faster in a whirlwind. Suarez tapped in with what seemed the game's final breath, but Everton lived on with the linesman's misplaced flag. Liverpool will rightly feel robbed, Everton will feel a 94th-minute winner would have been robbery anyway. There's little room for anything but partisanship in a Merseyside derby.

Maybe not. As Brendan Rodgers stalked the touchline - gorging on his first taste of this unique rivalry - his mind ticked constantly, stripping emotion from the occasion. He had already done so with his original teamsheet: the rough and tumble of a derby game mattered little when selecting the quick, nimble, easily-devoured Suso. The 18-year-old did not hide, but he was given a hiding, Everton departing from the niceties that marked their early-season form and turned the game into a battle. They needed to.


Liverpool were impressive in the first 20 minutes, with Rodgers refusing to compensate for derby day necessities. They kept to the style so prevalent throughout Rodgers' tenure so far, though seemed happy to allow Everton have the ball before striking them ferociously on the counter attack. Whether that was down to design or Everton's frantic style is up for debate. But with each passing minute, confidence grew amongst Liverpool; within 20 minutes, they were 2-0 up. Rodgers had mainly stuck to his principles, a two-goal lead just reward.

But then the Merseyside derby became a derby game. Liverpool's recycling of the ball waned, constantly giving away possession under the pressure of Everton. Leon Osman dealt a body blow, before Steven Naismith had Liverpool against the wall. This was no longer a tactical game of chess-boxing, but a bar-room brawl. Liverpool, with youngsters such as Andre Wisdom, Raheem Sterling and Suso making their debuts against Everton, didn't look to have the experience to leave unscathed. They were not helped by their team-mates either. The midfield three of Liverpool were completely overran by Everton's compact five-man effort, with Nuri Sahin and Steven Gerrard struggling to find that sought-after control, while Joe Allen looked to do the role of five.

Enter Rodgers at half-time. The corner man cannot do much as the fight is taking place; once the round ended, his time had come. Now was not the time for partisanship. One of the major criticisms of Rodgers' time at Anfield so far is this infamous lack of a ‘Plan B', which is usually six foot three and sports a ponytail. What followed in the second half was far better than long balls to the head of Andy Carroll.

"Rodgers is said to be far too inflexible. Not so. At Reading, when his 4-3-3 system failed to gain the desired results, he moved to a 4-4-2 with orthodox wingers. At Goodison, he bent expectation, and with it the course of the game. He moved to a three-man central defence, with four midfielders ahead, the two wide players acting as wing backs when needed. Further forward were three skillful players: Jonjo Shelvey, who replaced Sahin at half-time, Sterling and Suarez. Liverpool were better. They gained control in the midfield once more. The introduction of Sebastian Coates gave Joe Allen help in combatting the Belgian battering ram Marouane Fellaini, and also allowed Allen to have the ball at his wondrous feet and look to drive forward.

The second-half was not a vintage display from Liverpool, admittedly, and still resides a good few strides from where Rodgers wants his side to be - but such bravery from him at half time is to be commended. His managerial style on Sunday was akin to Daniel Agger's performance in defence, both facing every difficulty and moving it away from safety.

Most would have decided to take the struggling Sterling off after his yellow card, with the 17-year-old's performance clearly hampered by the thought of a red card. Instead, Rodgers moved him central, away from the hard shoulder brutality, and offered him a free role bereft of defensive duty. It was good man-management, showing Sterling he trusted him to still perform his duty. That he did.

Most would have allowed half time to pass without incident, sending his team out for 15 minutes and gauging how the rest of the second half would proceed. Instead, Rodgers grabbed the initiative by the throat, seizing control from his Everton counterpart David Moyes. It is telling that Moyes took 25 minutes to respond to Rodgers' move, by which time the complexion of the board had changed.

But most importantly, most would have panicked in the midst of the pendulum swinging violently in the whirlwind of a local derby and attempt to match them blow-for-blow. Rodgers was clever, he was an incorrect decision from pulling it off successfully as Suarez stole in with less than a minute remaining.

But even in a 2-2 draw comes his own personal victory, an epochal moment of some sort. Rodgers finally had the moment where his decision-making changed a game. This was not as simplistic as bringing on the winner goalscorer in a game; this was shaking up the landscape, against the run of play, in his first Merseyside derby. It showed he has a tactical brain, and the testicular fortitude to use it. If he wants to make Liverpool successful again, and retain the faith of the supporters, he needs that in abundance. This, in his first real test of that, wasn't a bad start at a
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:18 am

i thought his team selection was a bit odd tonight.
the right hand side looked very disjointed with downing (a left footer) playing infront of a natural center mid (hendo). it looked like a makeshift pairing on paper and it played like one too.
god knows how many times swansea got through on goal down hendo`s RB channel, if it wasnt for jones we could have been on the wrong end of a cricket score tonight.
mind you it wasnt just hendo, the defending was shambolic right acrosst he backline, swansea looked like scoring everytime they attacked and we seemed to be in scramble mode the entire game with desperate challenges/ blocks going in left right and center, there was just no composure at all.
saying that the midfield didnt exactly help, no one wanted to track back and the defence were often outnumbered as swansea broke.
quite a few players had an off night, shelvey passed to more white shirts than red ones, cole was anonymous, yesil and assaidi struggled to get into the game and even joe allen, who along with luis has probably been our best player this season, had a poor game continually getting robbed of possession in dangerous area`s.
it`s a pity to go out at home and not to be in the hat for the next round especially considering the likes of city, united, spurs and everton are out too, this competition might have been a decent chance for rodgers to win his first piece of silverware.
still, the main priority is the prem and after 2 games in quick succession and another big game looming on the horizon this weekend i dont blame rodgers for using his squad.
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Postby Kenny Kan » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:10 am

I must say, over the last few years I've never felt that LFC can go into a match and really win it. Sometimes I'm confident come match day when the opposition has injuries and if our only 2 best players are in good form, lately though we only have had the 1 quality player to ( call) put pressure on to drag us out the s.*i*e.

We're as inconsistent as Suarez's finishing, in fact his finishing is more consistent than our team's performances. We deserve our mid table tag, Losing at "fortress Anfield" to Swansea city, no offence but we shouldn't be getting tanked at home by clubs like Swansea. Especially as defending winners of the comp.

These fecking owners MUST back their man in Jan, due to imbecilic shenanigans in the summer management staff have given this club/squad no fecking chance what so ever. They need to feck this sustainable bollox off for a bit as they should this money bollox theory, and back the man they f.ucking chose.
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Postby The Raven » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:17 am

Did i just see him moaning about only having one striker? What a joke he bombed carroll out as soon as he got here then spent all summer getting borini. His excuses are getting boring
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:00 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:18 am wrote:i thought his team selection was a bit odd tonight.
the right hand side looked very disjointed with downing (a left footer) playing infront of a natural center mid (hendo). it looked like a makeshift pairing on paper and it played like one too.
god knows how many times swansea got through on goal down hendo`s RB channel, if it wasnt for jones we could have been on the wrong end of a cricket score tonight.
mind you it wasnt just hendo, the defending was shambolic right acrosst he backline, swansea looked like scoring everytime they attacked and we seemed to be in scramble mode the entire game with desperate challenges/ blocks going in left right and center, there was just no composure at all.
saying that the midfield didnt exactly help, no one wanted to track back and the defence were often outnumbered as swansea broke.
quite a few players had an off night, shelvey passed to more white shirts than red ones, cole was anonymous, yesil and assaidi struggled to get into the game and even joe allen, who along with luis has probably been our best player this season, had a poor game continually getting robbed of possession in dangerous area`s.
it`s a pity to go out at home and not to be in the hat for the next round especially considering the likes of city, united, spurs and everton are out too, this competition might have been a decent chance for rodgers to win his first piece of silverware.
still, the main priority is the prem and after 2 games in quick succession and another big game looming on the horizon this weekend i dont blame rodgers for using his squad.


We looked sh'ite from the first whistle
It confirmed that Henderson is not good enough, Cole and Carragher are past it and that our squad is paper thin.
If Rodgers intent is to rest his best players than hes defeating the object by bring them on to save a game in the second half where they have to try twice as hard to get a victory. Saying that, we were very wasteful again and with more composure could have easily won the game.
Fair play to swansea who hit us on the break to score two tap ins, which is something we should be copying
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:01 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:18 am wrote:i thought his team selection was a bit odd tonight.
the right hand side looked very disjointed with downing (a left footer) playing infront of a natural center mid (hendo). it looked like a makeshift pairing on paper and it played like one too.
god knows how many times swansea got through on goal down hendo`s RB channel, if it wasnt for jones we could have been on the wrong end of a cricket score tonight.
mind you it wasnt just hendo, the defending was shambolic right acrosst he backline, swansea looked like scoring everytime they attacked and we seemed to be in scramble mode the entire game with desperate challenges/ blocks going in left right and center, there was just no composure at all.
saying that the midfield didnt exactly help, no one wanted to track back and the defence were often outnumbered as swansea broke.
quite a few players had an off night, shelvey passed to more white shirts than red ones, cole was anonymous, yesil and assaidi struggled to get into the game and even joe allen, who along with luis has probably been our best player this season, had a poor game continually getting robbed of possession in dangerous area`s.
it`s a pity to go out at home and not to be in the hat for the next round especially considering the likes of city, united, spurs and everton are out too, this competition might have been a decent chance for rodgers to win his first piece of silverware.
still, the main priority is the prem and after 2 games in quick succession and another big game looming on the horizon this weekend i dont blame rodgers for using his squad.


We looked sh'ite from the first whistle
It confirmed that Henderson is not good enough, Cole and Carragher are past it and that our squad is paper thin.
If Rodgers intent is to rest his best players than hes defeating the object by bring them on to save a game in the second half where they have to try twice as hard to get a victory. Saying that, we were very wasteful again and with more composure could have easily won the game.
Fair play to swansea who hit us on the break to score two tap ins, which is something we should be copying
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