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D___C wrote:Because Kenny didnt buy talent, thats why he has failed in the transfer market, and we are a lesser side.

Bingo.

Whatever money Kenny gets at the end of the season HE HAS to spend it on talent.

We can't afford another Adam or Downing in our side.

FFS if I see a Defoe or a Bent come into this side I will be f**king livid.............

LFC is built on history. The sad thing is we seems to dwell on the pass too much to a point that it is hindering our direction of moving forward. KK is a great man indeed and was a great player.
First question, in terms of managing in the modern football today, is KK lacking behind and how would you rank him among all the top manager in the world? You don't have to answer out loud but just ask yourself that question. His tactics and line up had been questioned consistent. Those had been discussed before so not going to mention it here.
Second question is " is our team really bad"? Honestly, if we play our best team everytime, i think our table position will be a whole lot different. Yes, we got some inflated price English player. I don't mind that because English player price is inflated. But the problem is instead of bringing along players like Henderson slowly, we forfeited our chance to field our best team. I'm sure if Maxi is playing on the right or Kuyt, both will be more effective than Hendo. I will keep my mind open on Hendo even though I don't think he will ever be good enough. Maybe a good squad player but definitely not first team material. Also, our midfield is not strong enough. Spearing is a good lad as you can see he really put his effort in but to rely him to being a mascher type player based on the system KK is playing it will never work. Again, this comes back with not fielding the best team and yesterday when playing Sunderland, same problem. So, i think it is not a matter of not having enough good players but who play.
TO me, the deciding factor is KK simply not a top manager (only talking about his managing skill). That's why i voted yes however I feel the pain when pressing yes.

I voted no, but next season is crunch time.

The Carling Cup was nice but our league position is poor considering how much we spent in the summer.
Look at Moyes and how much he has had to spend, they go above us if they beat us next week.

We still have no genuine wide player on the right and still have zero flair & creativity in the middle.
Kenny better fix that in the summer!

I think if things don't improve from now until the end of season, Kenny should go in the summer. Kenny's job was done after he took over Hodgson and stabilized the team. Kenny could make that team play alot better than the current team. Which goes to show that Kenny might be abit out of touch with world football outside the country. Because after he purchased Carroll, downing, Adam and Henderson, the team became alot worse. If things don't improve, Kenny cannot be seen as the manager to take the club forward anymore. LFC needs a younger manager with fresh ideas and modern methods...

If things don't improve, we should take a serious look at AVB... or bringing back Rafa for a second stint...

i am shocked that there 13 members so far on here that would like to see Kenny sacked.
they sat here for years when Rafa was not winning anything and buying players that were Sh*t and said nothing.

if you gave Rafa the chance to turn it around then you should give Kenny the chance.

I voted no and I'm amazed you're even asking the question, you're either not true Liverpool supporters or you're a bunch of bloody school girls who throw your toys out of the pram if you can't have instant success.

You forget how far we'd slipped under the previous owners, the squad needed a bloody good overhaul and it takes time to bring players in and get them to play together. This is a competitive league, look at the millions being spent elsewhere we don't have the right to be here just because of our history.

We got rid of Torres, Babel, Jovanovich, Poulsen, Konchesky, Insua, Ngog, Meireles, Kyrgiakos, Ayala and loaned out Joe Cole and Aquilani. We replaced them with Suarez, Carroll, Bellamy, Downing, Henderson, Adam, Enrique and Coates for a net spend of about £37 million - and don't bloody say net spend doesn't matter, that's all that matters. Look at the squad now and it is younger and better but not quite balanced and lacking in a few positions.

Lucas has been a big loss, to say he's not because he doesn't score goals just shows some peoples ignorance. Without him, the team just doesn't have the balance.

We need to get behind the manager, coaches and players and hopefully the owners will back Kenny and Comolli to bring in a few quality players in the summer. This is a work in progress and we're going to have ups and downsalong the way but as long as we're going in the right direction you can't ask for any more.

YNWA

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:I console myself with the fact most of the posters who voted yes are the same group that had little faith in Lucas's obvious ability and couldn't wait to
express their lack of faith in Benitez ,yet were more than willing to allow a clown like Hodgson more time to drag us even further down .

Go figure ?

yes , it does appear that way......

[quote="Basil"]I voted no and I'm amazed you're even asking the question, you're either not true Liverpool supporters or you're a bunch of bloody school girls who throw your toys out of the pram if you can't have instant success.

think you need to get your facts right first mate.

i asked it.

and i asked it after reading in the games thread how many said we need a change of manager, as you will see i posted now.
and as for not being af fan then you better take a long walk off a very very short pier.

Lets not get sucked into this 'project' rubbish because Dalglish built this side to achieve 4th this year as per the owners target.

He has failed to meet this expectation and if anyone thinks you can build a team over several years in this day and age is living in cloud cuckoo land.

No individual should be spared at the expense of the football clubs progress but to me keeping up appearences seems more important to people than getting the job done.

Dalglish really needs to improve his own personal performance in the short term and have the nuts to make some big decisions this summer to sort this team out.

If he cannot do that then  he will have to go, Im sorry to say it, but he will.

I vote no, but this is because it's Kenny. We all know that if it was another manager with this league form, and more importantly with these overpriced mediocre player purchases the vote would be close to 100% to go.

When I assess our squad against the other Clubs then it's clear to me that City, Manu, Chelsea and spurs have more quality, Arsenal are about the same, so being in 5th 6th is about par for us. This means that Kenny is holding his own in the league, but not excelling, unlike for example O'Neil. The purchases, maybe not Carroll, are his fault and therefore he has to take the blame for this, but I think he must have learnt a lot from this campaign.

Fourth is probably out of the question, so our focus now should be about strengthening for next season, and getting the clinical striker we need that can put away the abundant chances we create and a pacy right winger. Other than this the FA cup is a way to add glory, and help attract players and must now be the Clubs goal.

Kenny should get next season at the least, and I'm sure he'll do a lot better. If he doesn't we won't need a poll, he loves the Club enough to walk away.

NO.

I can't believe this thread even exists.

No

This season are allready lost, so no point to change Kenny, even his signings are poor...

lakes10 wrote:i am shocked that there 13 members so far on here that would like to see Kenny sacked.
they sat here for years when Rafa was not winning anything and buying players that were Sh*t and said nothing.

if you gave Rafa the chance to turn it around then you should give Kenny the chance.

The fact is that bar rafa's last season, rafa's team never played as bad as the current team. Also Rafa did quite well in his first 4 seasons. When the anti-rafa's were complaining about not winning any trophy the team finished 2nd in the league. It is quite difficult to sack a Liverpool manager who challenged the mancs for the title all the way until the end of the season. Add to that rafa had like 25 millions to spend every year for his first 4 seasons. Compared to that Kenny has spent 90 million in his first season. Rafa never had that luxury. It was during the tit & ***** era that rafa started to decline and that was when sell to buy policy is in full swing. I don't want to compare Kenny to rafa but I just don't think Kenny can challenge the title anymore. It is a gut feeling, the same gut feeling that questioned Carroll's purchase. I would like to see what rafa can do under the current regime. I have a feeling that Kenny is too nice to these modern footballers hence they are not pulling their weight.

Anyway I am still waiting to see whether Kenny can turn it around so I voted no. But if the current form persists until end if the season, it is simply unacceptable. The current form is just disastrous. If we win the FA cup and finish 6th in the league Kenny definitely deserves to get one more season. But if we finish 10th or something, I feel that Liverpool needs a revolution rather than an evolution. There needs to be a rethink of our footballing philosophy. I was encouraged to think that Kenny would bring the pass and move football. Buy until now, this isn't happening...

I also like gravesie's suggestion Juergen Kopp who took up b Dortmund when they finished 13 and won them the title after continuos improvement... AVB, Rafa or Kopp would get my vote if Kenny couldn't turn this team around...

Why do people constantly state that Kenny has spent £90m to a £100m. His net spend is less than £35m .Several players were sold to fund the majority of the new signings and that somewhat simple point is being overlooked. Why?