Liverpool FC Forum

[redtrader74]

I agree that net spend is important, I defended Rafa on that basis. The thing is that we made a huge profit on Torres, which the owners made available plus more. Kenny has been in the enviable position to go out and be able to spend £100million in a few months, not having to wait and sell to buy. I'm NOT for Kenny being sacked, but does ANYONE actually think that the clubs transfer policy has been a success? I don't credit or blame Kenny for Suarez or Carroll (he might have wanted him, but I doubt he was part of the pricing, he was not in charge, just an interim manager at that time.

[mart]

and a manager who risked (and at times often endured ) public humiliation and media condemnation in
a concerted effort to protect his player

Do you think Kenny handled the Suarez incident in a good way?

[7_Kewell]

I agree that net spend is important, I defended Rafa on that basis. The thing is that we made a huge profit on Torres, which the owners made available plus more. Kenny has been in the enviable position to go out and be able to spend £100million in a few months, not having to wait and sell to buy. I'm NOT for Kenny being sacked, but does ANYONE actually think that the clubs transfer policy has been a success? I don't credit or blame Kenny for Suarez or Carroll (he might have wanted him, but I doubt he was part of the pricing, he was not in charge, just an interim manager at that time.

Comolli has to shoulder the blame too, but it's the lack of direction that worries me. Carroll and Suarez are miles apart in playing style and they don't fit together. It was never going to work

[maguskwt]

We say we have secured "European football" next season. Why not say we have secured "Europa League" football? Because people want to brainwash themselves and think that it is all rosy with European football. It is because Champions League football is actually the one that matters. Without CL football, it will be very difficult to attract good players unless you are Man City or Chelsea who throw money at good players. We will be stuck with midtable mediocrity for a while if we don't get into the CL and if we are ok with any "european football".

Winning a cup is great and securing Eurapa League is a bonus but I'm afraid nothing to shout out about for a club like Liverpool...

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

and a manager who risked (and at times often endured ) public humiliation and media condemnation in
a concerted effort to protect his player

Do you think Kenny handled the Suarez incident in a good way?

Yes I believe he acted in the best interest's of the club ,especially given the indignation felt by the fans at the time ,and I also  believe my  earlier
statement leaves little  room for interpretation .

[7_Kewell]

and a manager who risked (and at times often endured ) public humiliation and media condemnation in
a concerted effort to protect his player

Do you think Kenny handled the Suarez incident in a good way?

Yes I believe he acted in the best interest's of the club ,especially given the indignation felt by the fans at the time ,and I also  believe my  earlier
statement leaves little  room for interpretation .

So letting the entire squad (and himself) wear Suarez t-shirts after the player was accused of racism was good idea? Spouting b0ll0cks to the media about how much we were wronged, only then to NOT APPEAL was a good idea?
It was a unmitigated PR disaster from start to finish, which was only rectified when the owners stepped in.

[mart]

Yes I believe he acted in the best interest's of the club ,especially given the indignation felt by the fans at the time ,and I also  believe my  earlier
statement leaves little  room for interpretation .

I just had to ask as i didnt think anyone thought that PR disaster was a good idea. We should have kept it quiet and not give the media any more excuses to run this story for ages.

[7_Kewell]

Yes I believe he acted in the best interest's of the club ,especially given the indignation felt by the fans at the time ,and I also  believe my  earlier
statement leaves little  room for interpretation .

I just had to ask as i didnt think anyone thought that PR disaster was a good idea. We should have kept it quiet and not give the media any more excuses to run this story for ages.

should have followed Chelsea's example with Terry: say nothing. Do nothing. Pretend nothing has happened until the FA had reached their conclusion.

instead we did the opposite and made ourselves look like idiots

[mart]

Yes I believe he acted in the best interest's of the club ,especially given the indignation felt by the fans at the time ,and I also  believe my  earlier
statement leaves little  room for interpretation .

I just had to ask as i didnt think anyone thought that PR disaster was a good idea. We should have kept it quiet and not give the media any more excuses to run this story for ages.

should have followed Chelsea's example with Terry: say nothing. Do nothing. Pretend nothing has happened.

It seems to have worked yes.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

For the sake of simply going on record Kewell ...Yes I believe he did what the vast majority of fans who rightly believed the club had been
so wronged wanted to happen ,especially as the groundswell of FA sycophants fully expected the club to be far more subservient .

I personally love the way Liverpool as a club refuse to conform to an ideology that all the shit house rats in the Media  expect
clubs and fans to fall neatly into place behind ...You don't see it ,but that's OK, so in an all too familiar way  this argument has
already run its course .

Anyway our respective opinions differ on a plethora of issues ,So for that reason I hardly see the point in prolonging yet another tedious debate .

[7_Kewell]

For the sake of simply going on record Kewell ...Yes I believe he did what the vast majority of fans who rightly believed the club had been
so wronged wanted to happen ,especially as the groundswell of FA sycophants fully expected the club to be far more subservient .

I personally love the way Liverpool as a club refuse to conform to an ideology that all the shit house rats in the Media  expect
clubs and fans to fall neatly into place behind ...You don't see it ,but that's OK, so in an all too familiar way  this argument has
already run its course .

Anyway our respective opinions differ on a plethora of issues ,So for that reason I hardly see the point in prolonging yet another tedious debate .

ah i see, you claim the moral high ground without addressing any of the issues raised 

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

For the sake of simply going on record Kewell ...Yes I believe he did what the vast majority of fans who rightly believed the club had been
so wronged wanted to happen ,especially as the groundswell of FA sycophants fully expected the club to be far more subservient .

I personally love the way Liverpool as a club refuse to conform to an ideology that all the shit house rats in the Media  expect
clubs and fans to fall neatly into place behind ...You don't see it ,but that's OK, so in an all too familiar way  this argument has
already run its course .

Anyway our respective opinions differ on a plethora of issues ,So for that reason I hardly see the point in prolonging yet another tedious debate .

ah i see, you claim the moral high ground without addressing any of the issues raised 

I think I more than adequately supplied an answer to your question ? I just see no reason to drag the topic on till it becomes so repetitive its painful .

[7_Kewell]

so you believe Kenny's dealings over the whole Suarez saga were correct and not a complete PR disaster, as everyone else has said.


Righto 

[D___C]

The net spend argument is flawed; it's basically saying it's OK to waste money.

It's a bit like selling your house for 300 grand and buying another place for 350,000, only to find the new house is build of straw. Would you write off your money?  Would you fu...

Correct.

Its money that we had, and Kenny has spent over 100 million of it.

Incredibly, the team is weaker, and we are worse off.

When you spend that amount of money, and steer us to what looks set to be our lowest Premiership points total ever, then your position will come under scrutiny. Listened to BBC phone in and watched the Sky Sports phone in and Kenny was getting savaged. My hope is that if Kenny sees things getting worse he will "move upstairs" type thing.

As i said previously, i voted no to him leaving now as i believe Kenny deserves another chance. I wouldnt give him any more money, just the money recouped from the sale from players he bought, and hopefully he can make one or two quality signings this time.

[ethanr]

[/quote]I just had to ask as i didnt think anyone thought that PR disaster was a good idea. We should have kept it quiet and not give the media any more excuses to run this story for ages.[/quote]
should have followed Chelsea's example with Terry: say nothing. Do nothing. Pretend nothing has happened.[/quote]





But the difference is that the media attacked every second of every day for it. Nobody said a word about terry, so they really didn't have to deal with it.