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by **stmichael** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:41 pm

i'd take a 9 point deduction if it meant getting rid of that tw@t

by **Ciggy** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:44 pm

Reg wrote:We've tackled our demons before they have and we'll come out better for it.

Next 1-2 years look tough for MUFC. £19.3m currency exchanges... thats the owners taking their swag out AND charging the club for the pleasure.

You're right Ciggy, I'm in tears here.....

We havent yet Reg our new owners could be worst than our last ones we dont know at the momment they arnt buying us cause they are big liverpool fans, they are buying us to sell us somewhere down the road or do a Glazer/Hicks/Gillet.

I think its an absolute disgrace that the FA and Premier League have aloud this to happen to the two most successfull clubs in England.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:56 pm

oh dear

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/default.stm

by **Reg** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:00 pm

Fuller roles planned for Dalglish and fans' figurehead October 7, 2010

The roles of Kenny Dalglish and fans' leader Rogan Taylor will be high on the agenda of the new American owners, ESPNsoccernet can exclusively reveal.

As they wait for the legal battle to play out in court, New England Sports Ventures' (NESV) top brass, led by founder John W Henry, are busy planning the first days of their new regime. Henry and his team are keen to understand as much as they can about all the players in the Liverpool drama, knowing that first impressions will be very important when they arrive on Merseyside.

One of the key issues for Liverpool's potential new owners is how they engage with the fans and the local community from day one. NESV are extremely savvy businessmen who are acutely aware of the need to conduct themselves in a different manner from that of Hicks and Gillett.

An insider told ESPNsoccernet: "How best to engage the fans is always going to be a delicate issue after Hicks and Gillett, but it is nonetheless a major issue and one of great importance."

To that end, they are already thinking about how best to begin listening to local ideas and concerns as they look to develop their plans for the Club.

Kenny Dalglish is one figure whose views they will doubtless seek. Rogan Taylor, leading local academic and head of ShareLiverpool, the group promoting fan involvement at board level, is another who may have a role to play.

"We have to remember Liverpool fans will never greet with open arms any incoming owner because they have been badly burned once,'' Rogan Taylor told the Daily Telegraph. Taylor's group can potentially bring the prospect of additional investment to the table. He said: "I think I can get 100,000 Liverpool fans to write out cheques for £500 each if they can guarantee they won't be shafted again.''

What Taylor might get for his putative £50 million remains to be seen. It is far too early to say whether there is a realistic prospect of the additional cash being deliverable or of it buying the fans anything as tangible as a seat on the board.

However, the potential new owners will arrive in Liverpool very much in listening mode. They know that it is vital not to promise too much and then fail to deliver and they want to make sure that they can build solid long-term relationships with supporters groups.

The role of Dalglish in the new regime, and how best to engage the fan base in a real and workable way, is a key issue. Dalglish is seen as a marginal figure within the Tom Hicks/George Gillett ownership, though he is an ambassador and Head of Football Development for the club.

Hicks and Gillett arrived at Anfield with plenty of hype about engaging the fans, but never attracted any warmth to say the least.

The NESV team understands how their fellow Americans failed to embrace the fan base as positively as they should have done, and how an icon like Dalglish is part of the fan culture of Anfield. It is also intriguing to note Dalglish's view that renovating Anfield should not be dismissed in the quest to build a new £400 million stadium which might be out of the financial reach of the club.
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Of course its all blah.. blah.. blah.. at this stage.

by **crim cram** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:07 pm

Ciggy wrote: oh dear

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/default.stm

I don't think it will come to that, and if it does the 300 million valuation might be on the high side. As things stand, we would struggle to recover enough points to stay up. This might (timing is everything) be further ammunition for Broughton to aid in the sale. I'm looking for positives here.

by **stmichael** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:11 pm

here's what a sport's lawyer thinks about our available options:

http://link.brightcove.com/service....1911001

by **metalhead** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:12 pm

These are worrying times indeed

by **Ciggy** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:17 pm

metalhead wrote:These are worrying times indeed

They are mate, a 9 point deduction is the equivilent of having Roy in charge for the next three games.

I have zero confidence of us not being relegated if this happens and he stays. seriously.

by **metalhead** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:24 pm

any news on when the court will happen next week?

by **Dundalk** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:25 pm

Ciggy wrote:I have zero confidence of us not being relegated if this happens and he stays. seriously.

Ciggy cop on

Come on!

by **Ciggy** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:28 pm

Dundalk wrote:
Ciggy wrote:I have zero confidence of us not being relegated if this happens and he stays. seriously.

Ciggy cop on

Come on!

So you think we will survive if Roys stays and we are deducted 9 points? Be honest?

by **Roger Red Hat** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:28 pm

Put Kenny in charge right now! we need to avoid the drop.

by **Dundalk** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:29 pm

If you mean do I think will get relegated then the answer is no

They can take 15 points off us and we sill wont get relagted

by **jacdaniel** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:31 pm

i wanted Roy sacked after Blackpool game. But if we're getting deducted 9 points... now i REALLY want him out.

He won't suit the new owners vision anyways. (Assuming they takeover).

by **red till i die!!** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:33 pm

stmichael wrote:here's what a sport's lawyer thinks about our available options:

http://link.brightcove.com/service....1911001

all this legal spin is confusing to say the least

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if broughton is right and has the assurances he claims then it seems straightforward.if he doesent and the high court rule for t&t then rbs step in and we go into administration and get a 9 point deduction.either way we get sold and t&t gone :buttrock

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next week cant come quick enough for me!!.
does anyone know exactly on what day the high court hearing is?

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