Liverpool FC Forum

Ciggy wrote:

Lee J wrote:

Dundalk wrote:Everyone suffered big losses back in 2007

The Economy is slowly starting to look up

yeah but ciggy only remembers the bad times - she's a sceptical old goat and it wouldn't matter if the richest Liverpool fan in the world took over and paid the lot off and built a new stadium blah blah blah, she'd point out the fact that he once lost 30p playing marbles when he was ten years old.

ignore her, most do.

Sorry for being concerned and not jumping through hoops at the prospect of another wolf in sheeps clothing. 3 years of hell most of us have been through the last thing our club needs is the same thing to happen again.

Not my favourite person but he makes a very good point.

On Twitter, Manchester United fan and Sky television presenter Eamonn Holmes disagreed. "We don't buy baseball teams - because we don't understand it, so why don't these American companies take the hint and follow by example?"

If Eammon Holmes    means 'we' as in English people dont buy Baseball teams then he is correct, what failed to mention is that 'we' dont but English football teams either. See Man City, Chelsea, United, Villa as examples with Arsenal going done the same road with Usmanov and Stanley Kroenke

Dundalk wrote:

supersub wrote:...I don't want to be seen as a copy of the Man City blueprint or Chelsea for that matter...


I do hope that the new owners look to Christian Purslow as a possible man for the job of over-seeing Liverpool's rise from the Gillette and Hicks debacle.

Well said Supersub and you echo my thoughts


If we can go down the road of the Arsenal mode then ill be a happy man

Dundalk wrote:THE BEST AND WORST OWNERS IN THE NBA

Guess whos No.1

Look who's number 2 in the worst!!  

Dundalk wrote:

stmichael wrote:Why can't people see it's not about how much money this guy personally has? We don't need to throw millions around like City and quite frankly I wouldn't want us to.

Exatley

redsoxfan wrote:Hello everyone, I've been a Boston Red Sox fan my whole life and I thought I might give you some insight about John Henry.

Overall, he is a fabulous owner. The Red Sox have the #2 payroll in baseball. He is not afraid to spend money...but he doesn't spend money like a drunk sailor. His General Manager Theo Epstein is always trying to get the most value for the money. Since Henry's group has taken over, the Red Sox have become a powerhouse and won 2 World Series (2004 and 2007) after not winning one since 1918. They are usually in the baseball postseason playoffs, and only missed by a bit this year because the team was decimated by injuries.

The stadium is Fenway Park, the oldest in baseball, built in 1912.  There was a lot of talk about building a new park, but they decided to revitalize Fenway. Lots of new concessions, bathrooms, etc. The Red Sox currently have the longest sellout streak in history at over 500 games in a row.

Henry's a very good man, a little quirky, but nice. He apparently is quite rich - a self-made made who is an expert at stock trading. Not only does his group own the Red Sox, but they have the very profitable regional cable New England Sports Network (NESN) and own a stake in one of America's top Nascar racing companies (very popular in the southern US, not so much here in Boston).

Speaking honestly, I think you'll be happy with him if these rumors are true. Your only reservations should be 1) who will run the football operation, as I don't think he's a football expert, 2) the Red Sox have the highest ticket prices in Major League Baseball - will the same be true at Liverpool, and 3) does he have enough money to match the insane owners that are in the Premier League? 

Overall though, he's a good businessman, very smart. His co-owner is Tom Werner who made his money in television (owned the Cosby Show, Roseanne and others). The President is Larry Lucchino, a very savvy baseball man. And the rest of their management team is great too. They are considered to be in the top echelon of owners in baseball.

If you want to investigate, here are some good links:

The main Red Sox forum:  Sons Of Sam Horn

The two Boston papers: http://www.boston.com/sports/
http://www.boston.com/sports/

The Red Sox: http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=bos

The Fenway Group: http://www.fenwaysportsgroup.com/

A video about how old Fenway Park has been renovated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCfmaq7wXI

And here's a long interview with him in 2004 which can introduce you to him: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/1113

I confess to only knowing a little about football. I follow the Premier League a bit but am a child in terms of knowledge. But I am aware of your frustration with your current owners. I just wanted to reassure you all that Henry and his group would certainly seem to be an improvement. They are liked by 95% of the fans here, which isn't easy, as the Red Sox are rabidly followed and critiqued, arguably as much as their famous and more historically successful rival the New York Yankees.

Good luck. I'll drop by again soon. 

stmichael wrote:and as for those who say that we still won't be able to compete, i don't necessarily agree with this. we weren't a well run club when the yanks came in 3 years ago and yet we were still on the verge of reaching a champions league final.

Oh Mike youve gone and done it now ,  you should of shut up on that . im not sayin nothin

stmichael wrote:and as for those who say that we still won't be able to compete, i don't necessarily agree with this. we weren't a well run club when the yanks came in 3 years ago and yet we were still on the verge of reaching a champions league final.

We have the core, we are already a huge club, we just need stability.

NANNY RED wrote:3 years of hell most of us have been through the last thing our club needs is the same thing to happen again.



Is right and it cant be allowed to happen ever again,

On the plus side we dont need to make new Yanks Out banner cause we already have them

Ciggy wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:3 years of hell most of us have been through the last thing our club needs is the same thing to happen again.



Is right and it cant be allowed to happen ever again,

On the plus side we dont need to make new Yanks Out banner cause we already have them

redsoxfan wrote:Hello everyone, I've been a Boston Red Sox fan my whole life and I thought I might give you some insight about John Henry.

Overall, he is a fabulous owner. The Red Sox have the #2 payroll in baseball. He is not afraid to spend money...but he doesn't spend money like a drunk sailor. His General Manager Theo Epstein is always trying to get the most value for the money. Since Henry's group has taken over, the Red Sox have become a powerhouse and won 2 World Series (2004 and 2007) after not winning one since 1918. They are usually in the baseball postseason playoffs, and only missed by a bit this year because the team was decimated by injuries.

The stadium is Fenway Park, the oldest in baseball, built in 1912.  There was a lot of talk about building a new park, but they decided to revitalize Fenway. Lots of new concessions, bathrooms, etc. The Red Sox currently have the longest sellout streak in history at over 500 games in a row.

Henry's a very good man, a little quirky, but nice. He apparently is quite rich - a self-made made who is an expert at stock trading. Not only does his group own the Red Sox, but they have the very profitable regional cable New England Sports Network (NESN) and own a stake in one of America's top Nascar racing companies (very popular in the southern US, not so much here in Boston).

Speaking honestly, I think you'll be happy with him if these rumors are true. Your only reservations should be 1) who will run the football operation, as I don't think he's a football expert, 2) the Red Sox have the highest ticket prices in Major League Baseball - will the same be true at Liverpool, and 3) does he have enough money to match the insane owners that are in the Premier League? 

Overall though, he's a good businessman, very smart. His co-owner is Tom Werner who made his money in television (owned the Cosby Show, Roseanne and others). The President is Larry Lucchino, a very savvy baseball man. And the rest of their management team is great too. They are considered to be in the top echelon of owners in baseball.

If you want to investigate, here are some good links:

The main Red Sox forum:  Sons Of Sam Horn

The two Boston papers: http://www.boston.com/sports/
http://www.boston.com/sports/

The Red Sox: http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=bos

The Fenway Group: http://www.fenwaysportsgroup.com/

A video about how old Fenway Park has been renovated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCfmaq7wXI

And here's a long interview with him in 2004 which can introduce you to him: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/1113

I confess to only knowing a little about football. I follow the Premier League a bit but am a child in terms of knowledge. But I am aware of your frustration with your current owners. I just wanted to reassure you all that Henry and his group would certainly seem to be an improvement. They are liked by 95% of the fans here, which isn't easy, as the Red Sox are rabidly followed and critiqued, arguably as much as their famous and more historically successful rival the New York Yankees.

Good luck. I'll drop by again soon. 

Ciggy wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:3 years of hell most of us have been through the last thing our club needs is the same thing to happen again.



Is right and it cant be allowed to happen ever again,

On the plus side we dont need to make new Yanks Out banner cause we already have them

Thats true - see theres a saving already   

stmichael wrote:and as for those who say that we still won't be able to compete, i don't necessarily agree with this. we weren't a well run club when the yanks came in 3 years ago and yet we were still on the verge of reaching a champions league final.