Liverpool FC Forum

by **neil** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:48 pm

Scottbot wrote:Please everyone ping those emails out again when you're back at work again on Monday.

Also, It wouldn't be a bad shout obtain email addresses for all the big sport hacks and clog up their inboxes for the next few days as well.

yeah lets alienate as many influencial people as possible

by **Scottbot** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:51 pm

neil wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Please everyone ping those emails out again when you're back at work again on Monday.

Also, It wouldn't be a bad shout obtain email addresses for all the big sport hacks and clog up their inboxes for the next few days as well.

yeah lets alienate as many influencial people as possible

F.u..c..k Off pal

by **Reg** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:59 pm

Tonights Echo snippet:

Mark Semer, a spokesman for Hicks, declined to comment. Gillett’s assistant, Jennifer Stenseth Rogus, said he was unavailable.

The RBS has moved the debt to its restructuring team and is taking a role in finding a buyer for the team.

RBS said in a statement it retained confidence in the sales process being conducted by Barclays Capital and British Airways Plc chairman Martin Broughton

by **neil** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:04 am

Scottbot wrote:
neil wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Please everyone ping those emails out again when you're back at work again on Monday.

Also, It wouldn't be a bad shout obtain email addresses for all the big sport hacks and clog up their inboxes for the next few days as well.

yeah lets alienate as many influencial people as possible

F.u..c..k Off pal

right back at ya, brains

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:17 am

It is now time to protest inside the ground while the game is on ,Im sorry but this is more important now than getting behind the team, surely everyone can understand this , The Team will understand why were doing it, FFS they want them gone an all,

Protest outside RBS HEAD OFFICES IN lONDON, Enough is enough now , We have to take it to were the main people are at. and if that means traveling then so be it .

by **neil** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:25 am

neil wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
neil wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Please everyone ping those emails out again when you're back at work again on Monday.

Also, It wouldn't be a bad shout obtain email addresses for all the big sport hacks and clog up their inboxes for the next few days as well.

yeah lets alienate as many influencial people as possible

F.u..c..k Off pal

right back at ya, brains

ok lets not allow these germs(hicks and gillette) to carry on a climate of conflict between us guys. I am as frustrated as the rest of us but we need to approach any activity with a degree of rational. Alienating influential 'hacks' isnt going to serve our purpose, what we need to do is take out full page adverts in sunday papers that will cost a few grand, bus stop or public transport campaigns, people clip boarding in city centres(free) highlighting the issues. If we are to target anyones 'inbox' it must be RBS or any other banking organisations that may be tempted to continue this cycle of toxic debt.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:01 am

Emals are and always have been a great idead and loads have done massiveammounts of work on getting theseto frutiotion, but i think it needs taking now to the friint doors,, head offices o f bank institutions namelt the RBS, AND any other little con man bank whos gonna try and give them he money, Barcap needs approching an all ,not by email they have been done but by suppryers, Theres an Sos meeting in London in Teusday if anyone can get there get yourselfves down there with your ideas, its needs to be taken now national, not just in Liverpool. and theres enough of us down here who could make that happen, Ill wait for Teusday and see what ocurs at the meeting , but a lot of anger at the one in May no doubt this is the final straw, so lets see what happens

Seriosly anyone who is a member in and around London get yourself there . have your say , its no good moaning on here get there be part of it and do something about it no matter who little or how much you can do , this has now gone oiut of control now and its need stopping

by **eds** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:25 am

NANNY RED wrote:Emals are and always have been a great idead and loads have done massiveammounts of work on getting theseto frutiotion, but i think it needs taking now to the friint doors,, head offices o f bank institutions namelt the RBS, AND any other little con man bank whos gonna try and give them he money, Barcap needs approching an all ,not by email they have been done but by suppryers, Theres an Sos meeting in London in Teusday if anyone can get there get yourselfves down there with your ideas, its needs to be taken now national, not just in Liverpool. and theres enough of us down here who could make that happen, Ill wait for Teusday and see what ocurs at the meeting , but a lot of anger at the one in May no doubt this is the final straw, so lets see what happens

Seriosly anyone who is a member in and around London get yourself there . have your say , its no good moaning on here get there be part of it and do something about it no matter who little or how much you can do , this has now gone oiut of control now and its need stopping

I am sending all my support from Australia lads, this is OUR moment do exactly everything that must be done to get rid of the cancer, it must be DECAPITATED!

Liverpool is currently on its deathbed, our financial position far outweighs our results against the scum on the weekend or any other results for the rest of the season.

We will not go into the night like everyone expects us to, THIS IS LIVERPOOL FC mofos, the GREATEST SPORTING CLUB IN THE FARKING WORLD!

YNWA

by **Reg** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:34 am

I dont know why you're blaming RBS - I requote from tonights Echo:

'The RBS has moved the debt to its restructuring team and is taking a role in finding a buyer for the team.

RBS said in a statement it retained confidence in the sales process being conducted by Barclays Capital and British Airways Plc chairman Martin Broughton'

If you want to picket outside someones from door - go find BARCAP.

by **Reg** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:41 am

Ok maybe I am wrong, maybe RBS is central to this but the below is conflicting with the ECHO snippet:

Liverpool's board will attempt to block Tom Hicks' attempts to stay in control at Anfield

Liverpool’s board is expected to attempt to block Tom Hicks’ efforts to remain in control at Anfield, but could be powerless to do so if the Texan refinances the club’s debt with Royal Bank of Scotland.

17 Sep 2010

The board’s anticipated opposition to any proposal that involves continued debt and the involvement of the American owners signals that the club are effectively in a state of civil war.

As disclosed by Telegraph Sport, Hicks met Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton on Wednesday and told him that he was attempting to raise finance to buy out RBS, whose credit line to Hicks and co-owner George Gillett is understood to expire this month.

Anfield Sources said Hicks is understood to have been in talks with GSO Capital, a division of private equity giant Blackstone run by Bennett Goodman, about forming a consortium to buy out RBS.

Hicks’ move comes with Gillett attempting to retain control of his 50 per cent stake in the club after a $75 million (£48 million) loan secured against it was called in by lender Mill Financial.

Gillett is understood to maintain that he remains a controlling partner in the club and is supportive of Hicks’ refinancing efforts, but there are suggestions that any default by Gillett would leave Hicks in sole control of Liverpool’s Delaware-based holding company.

Any proposal that would mean Hicks remained in control using further debt would be resisted by Broughton and directors Ian Ayre and Christian Purslow. They blocked a refinancing attempt in June but if RBS is removed from the picture, their powers may be limited.

The board had to take independent legal advice in the summer before it opposed the owners, but it would have to have solid grounds for opposing the will of the shareholders.

Hicks and Gillett owe RBS at least £237 million, and Broughton has been engaged in a search for a buyer to remove them from the club. Thus far he has failed to find a credible bidder able to repay the debt, satisfy the Americans’ price expectations and put money into stadium investment and transfer fees.

Meanwhile Kenny Dalglish says he has a “debt to repay” to Liverpool. He may have helped the club to nine league titles, three FA Cups and three European Cups, but he clearly feels his bill is still not settled.

“I feel a wee bit guilty leaving the way I did [in 1991],” said Dalglish, speaking at the launch of his autobiography, My Liverpool Home. “I feel I have got a debt to repay. If I can help the club, then I will do it. I think I am a wee bit in arrears when it comes to balancing out the help. They have helped me more than I have helped them. If I can repay that debt, then I would be prepared to do [anything].”

It is no secret that Dalglish, after the departure of Rafael Benítez, felt that reprising the role as manager he vacated almost 20 years ago offered him the best opportunity to help a club to whom he still feels helplessly devoted.

He remains staunch in his support for Roy Hodgson, the man appointed in his stead, but it is a measure of how far Liverpool have fallen, how criminally his gilded legacy has been squandered, that he feels Hodgson’s decision to take what Dalglish left as the most coveted post in English football is of “great credit” to the former Fulham manager.

“I do not think anyone would have been under any illusions about the difficulties this job would have entailed after Rafa,” said the Scot.

“You know what is going on here and it is a great credit to Roy that he left Fulham to come here. It is pretty daunting. Manchester United have been fantastic, Chelsea are really strong, and Manchester City have their financial backing.”

It is the former who concern Liverpool fans, as well as Hodgson, most this weekend. “This game transcends the north-western rivalry,” said the Liverpool manager. “This is a huge game on a global scale. I relished the huge games at Inter Milan and this is the same level.

“It compares with the Derby D’Italia, Inter against Juventus, more than the Milan derby. That was the killer one, the one that grabbed the imagination.

"I am hoping I will have a better record than I did in those games, though. I did not like losing, which we did quite often, and like this rivalry this weekend, they are not games that you want to lose. Ever.”

by **Reg** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:44 am

That report is totally different to the opening comments of Ciggy's newspaper comment also dated 17/6........

Liverpool reject Hicks power play
By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

September 17, 2010

Liverpool have rejected a proposed refinancing strategy from co-owner Tom Hicks that could have given the American increased control at Anfield.

Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton turned down Tom Hick's proposal.

Hicks personally delivered his proposal direct to the Liverpool board in a showdown meeting ahead of the club's Europa League tie, and was told that his plans were not acceptable.

In fact, Hicks was left in no doubt of the board's resolve to find new owners and end his turbulent reign - alongside fellow American George Gillett - at the Premier League giants.
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so bottom line who really knows WTF is going on? No one.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:41 am

The Raven wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
The Raven wrote:I wonder how long it will be before the normal fan wakes up

Meaning?

Meaning i wonder how long people will still buy shirts, blame managers and think everything is happy and ok.

From the feedback I've been getting from other Reds by wearing our protest "Stadards Corrupted" shirt, I can safely tell you it's going to take something really substantial to kick most of the fanbase hard enough in the bollox to shake off the ridiculous amounts of apathy I've been seeing in supporters, say something like the sale of the darling Fernando Torres, or how about a few more Konschesky's being signed and played in key positions on the pitch. That'll do it.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:33 am

Now Hicks is reallt taking the p!ss

Tom Hicks plans for return of his son to Liverpool
Fans' hate-figure part of bid to keep control of club

No buyer imminent as owners seek profit on sale
David Conn The Guardian, Saturday 18 September 2010

Tom Hicks's last-ditch attempt to retain control of Liverpool is likely to be opposed even more vehemently than previously thought, as the American's proposals are understood to include a plan to restore his son, Tom Hicks Jr, to the Anfield operation. Hicks Jr resigned in January as a director of Liverpool and its parent company, Kop Holdings, after an abusive exchange with a supporter, to whom he retorted in an email: "Blow me fuck face."

The news that Hicks Sr, co-owner of Liverpool with George Gillett, was in London discussing raising loans to replace Liverpool's £237m bank debts and thereby keep control already alarmed supporters this week. Liverpool's three directors besides Hicks and Gillett – the chairman, Martin Broughton, the managing director, Christian Purslow, and the commercial director, Ian Ayre – are expected to oppose any refinancing of the club's debts presented by Hicks Sr, on more onerous terms than the interest Liverpool currently pay. The revelation that Hicks is planning to bring back his son will further inflame the anger harboured by many Liverpool fans against their club's American owners.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/18/tom-hicks-liverpool

by **Octsky** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:50 am

If Hicks control the club which i think is quite difficult.
we have to go "black-ops" on him, go guerrilla warfare.

by **metalhead** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:13 am

Octsky wrote:we have to go "black-ops" on him, go guerrilla warfare.

Hell Yeh

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