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Postby fivecups » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:58 pm

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Liverpool postpone meeting to discuss takeover with no serious bids on the table

A Liverpool board meeting scheduled for Thursday to discuss offers for the club has been postponed, providing further evidence of the complications and uncertainty surrounding the club’s future.


Telegraph Sport can disclose that the decision to postpone was taken amid continuing doubts about the credibility of potential bidders and after the date had been publicised in the media.

A well-placed source said it would have been “premature” to meet this week, indicating that the club were yet to receive any formal offers backed by proof of funds.

FOR F'UCK SAKE, THIS IS BULLS'HIT!
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Postby Rush Job » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:59 pm

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Postby Rush Job » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:05 pm

Didnt sheikh mo bid 500mil before? The second time I mean rather than the DIC bid that Moores rejected.
He`d get the club for less than that now, come on mo. I`m not buying he`s backing the syrian btw, I think thats Gillete propaganda.
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:12 pm

fivecups wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Hhmmff

Liverpool postpone meeting to discuss takeover with no serious bids on the table

A Liverpool board meeting scheduled for Thursday to discuss offers for the club has been postponed, providing further evidence of the complications and uncertainty surrounding the club’s future.


Telegraph Sport can disclose that the decision to postpone was taken amid continuing doubts about the credibility of potential bidders and after the date had been publicised in the media.

A well-placed source said it would have been “premature” to meet this week, indicating that the club were yet to receive any formal offers backed by proof of funds.

FOR F'UCK SAKE, THIS IS BULLS'HIT!

T&T tried to create an auction atmosphere to bring about a premature sale well prior to the october deadline. Any real bidder (and I pray there is a genuine interested party) has seen the chance to back off and watch the clock tick. Every day we get closer to the deadline the club loses 1 million in value.

Anyway, regardless of Kenny Baldrick, T&T´s own man Saddam the Syrian has been exposed as a fake. Their preferred choice, Mr 'We've agreed a deal' cant even convince Broughton he's genuine. What a pr@t.

This is a disaster for T&T. Their credit rating with the banks will plummet and gód help their other franchises/businesses. This will now go to the wire and the loser will be T&T from hereon in.

Sorry Woy, no funds for you mate this window.
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Postby boodiddy1 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:48 pm

The rocket has been shot at rawk. They're fooked. Bamba reckons Heung is gonna release his own rocket. We are not going to get taken over till October? WTF!
H&G are doomed. But, i think we might get a 9 point deduction this year cos of it all. We'll end up 8 points behind the winners. I will personally murder them two :censored: :angry:
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:54 pm

Is it legal to infect a website with a virus? Can the perpertrator be prosecuted?  I think so?
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:54 pm

Its gota be fu.cking illegal what these two are doing, What they have done. you get a little bit of hope and then you feel your heart just sink again, These two should be tried for persecution, I hinesetly dont know what is gonna become of us if we arnt sold soon
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Postby Ciggy » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:54 pm

2.5 million a week, 10 million on the 31st of August loan called in on the 6th of October, or re-financed how feckin heart breaking at the thought of them still being here next yearf, there will be murder. :angry:
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Postby Greavesie » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:17 pm

everytime I feel a tad optimistic about the season I read this thread and it gets me all depressed.

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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:45 pm

Ciggy wrote:2.5 million a week, 10 million on the 31st of August loan called in on the 6th of October, or re-financed how feckin heart breaking at the thought of them still being here next yearf, there will be murder. :angry:

Yeah but in fairness, T&T's valuation of the club is falling 10 million a week as well as potential buyers sit and wait for october.

Come october, T&T will get what they're given - a close out price.

I'm sure between now and then T&T will bring more fake Saddam the Syrians into play to try to secure an anticipatory sale to avoid going to october.

Likewise, his bankers who lent them money for other projects will see this outcome with dismay and realise the talk of 1 billion and fat profits was bs and they will be putting pressure on them to repay loans or recapitalise etc.. etc..

Broughton has been very courageous today sticking it in T&T's face, he's increased the pressure they're under.

No doubt about it, the Texan Tw@t is under the cosh.

'Squeeky bottom time' as someone used to say.
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:05 pm

The Daily Telegraph can disclose that the decision to postpone was taken amid continuing doubts about the credibility of potential bidders and after the date had been publicised in the media.

A well-placed source said it would have been “premature” to meet this week, indicating that the club were yet to receive any formal offers backed by proof of funds.



Sources said the board would not meet this week

and it is unclear when the five-man group – chairman Martin Broughton, owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett, managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre – will now convene.

The delay raises doubts about the club’s prospects of changing hands this month, or even before the Oct 6 refinancing deadline set by Royal Bank of Scotland.

Broughton had asked as many as six potential buyers to table detailed offers, including proof of funds, by the end of this week, in the hope that two might be worth serious consideration. That deadline now looks ambitious.

For supporters desperate for clarity amid the claims and counter-claims of the last fortnight the postponement is not a positive sign.

Broughton might still emerge from the fog of speculation clutching a piece of paper securing the future of Liverpool FC in the near future, but this does not make it feel any more imminent.

At least five potential buyers are thought to have expressed an interest.

Chinese-American businessman Kenneth Huang and Syrian Yahya Kurdi have both said they are considering an offer for the club, while the Kuwaiti Al-Kharafi family and New York investors the Rhone Group are also thought to have expressed an interest.

Indian conglomerate Sahara said this week it would not bid “for the time being”, but did not rule it out.

Until any of them table offers with proof of funds, Broughton’s hopes of securing a deal before the end of the transfer window will be dashed.

The timing is significant. The deadline for formal offers falls on Friday and marks the end of the two-week window after which Huang indicated he would walk away if his offer was not accepted.

It is also just over a fortnight from the closure of the transfer window, the last opportunity for Roy Hodgson to enhance his squad.

It appears likely now that the window will close without a formal change in Liverpool’s ownership, leaving the far more significant deadline set by RBS looking like the decisive factor in regards to the fate of the club.

The bank agreed to extend its £237 million loan facility in April only after Hicks and Gillett agreed to sell and to appoint Broughton to oversee the process.

RBS is also understood to have imposed more expensive terms on the Americans, with £110 million of their debt reportedly converted to payment-in-kind loans accruing interest of up to £2.5 million a week.

This gives RBS by far the greatest leverage of any of the players in the Anfield saga, though whether the bank will choose to use it remains to be seen.

RBS is reported to have offered to “ease” the financing for any bidder, a move that emphasises the sensitivity of its position.

If October arrives with no acceptable offer RBS could extend its financing to the Americans again, or take a more drastic step and force out Hicks and Gillett and effectively take control of the club.

That would be a hugely controversial step for the publicly-owned bank to take and would require the endorsement of senior management including chief executive Stephen Hester.

Removing the Americans might be popular on Merseyside and would certainly simplify the process, but it would not be without implications for the bank’s reputation.

For potential bidders RBS’s situation offers an opportunity. Letting the clock tick down will increase the bank’s anxiety, the fees paid by Hicks and Gillett and drive the price down .

Sahara’s statement this week suggests that may be its strategy.

Kurdi, understood to be backed by investors from Sharjah and considered a serious bidder by the Americans, who are seeking a profit from their time in charge at Anfield, indicated he would do likewise.

“I want at least two months, two months to see everything. After that if everything is OK it’s a deal. If not, 'Thank you very much’,” he told Bloomberg this week.

The Huang bid told The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday that it had still not decided whether to make an offer.

Marc Ganis, a US associate of Huang’s, said via email: “We haven’t yet decided to submit a formal proposal but are interested in looking at an investment there. I suspect that is obvious. We also have not identified the potential investors.”

Ganis’s statement is a far more sober assessment than the suggestions of a swift Chinese government-backed takeover emanating from Huang’s camp last week.

Huang, a sports business investor who cites top-level contacts in China and the US, has made no comment himself since news of his intentions emerged last week.

There has been confusion over the source of his funding and the exact make-up of his team.

His background has come under scrutiny too, though not via his company website, which has displayed the message 'Site Under Maintenance’ since his involvement.

Huang received an endorsement on Wednesday when Randy Levine, president of the New York Yankees, told the New York Times he had arranged marketing tie-ups in China.

Huang would hope to forge similar links for Liverpool, but first, like everyone else circling the club, he will have to convince Broughton he has the finances to pay for it.

If he and the other interested parties cannot, RBS may have to decide the club’s future in the autumn.

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Postby Ciggy » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:12 pm

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Ciggy wrote:2.5 million a week, 10 million on the 31st of August loan called in on the 6th of October, or re-financed how feckin heart breaking at the thought of them still being here next yearf, there will be murder. :angry:

Yeah but in fairness, T&T's valuation of the club is falling 10 million a week as well as potential buyers sit and wait for october.

Come october, T&T will get what they're given - a close out price.

I'm sure between now and then T&T will bring more fake Saddam the Syrians into play to try to secure an anticipatory sale to avoid going to october.

Likewise, his bankers who lent them money for other projects will see this outcome with dismay and realise the talk of 1 billion and fat profits was bs and they will be putting pressure on them to repay loans or recapitalise etc.. etc..

Broughton has been very courageous today sticking it in T&T's face, he's increased the pressure they're under.

No doubt about it, the Texan Tw@t is under the cosh.

'Squeeky bottom time' as someone used to say.

But Reg the RBS dont want to own us, if they give them another re-finance these kunts will still own us, zero spent this window again its feckin diabolical mate seriously how are they are getting away with 6 re-finances already? RBS knew we wanted shut after the first one yet they gave them another 5.

Why do they so dearly want to keep hold of something when they are the most hated men on the planet from a Liverpool fans point of view, cloud cuckoo land if they think they are getting 600/800 million for us Im in Liverpool now and if they showed their face around town well lets say they would be going back to the States in a coffin, theres that much hatred for them.

These tw@ts are holding out for that improved tv deal Im telling yer mate, couldnt bare another year talking about debt, loans and owners just FUCK OFF out of our lives you dispicable club killing b@stards.
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Postby Reinas No.1 Fan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:14 pm

"If he and the other interested parties cannot, RBS may have to decide the club’s future in the autumn."

Could this not potentially be good, if RBS take the club of the Wankie Doodle Dandies could they not sell it on for the price of the debt meaning a cheaper sale??

Or which is probably the case am I completely misreading the situation?? :p
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Postby bigmick » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:15 pm

bigmick wrote:Look, lets be serious for a second here and forget all the total b0ll0cks that those "in the know" reckon they know. Lets put all that aside, and just use our common sense for a bit.

You've got a bank who want their money back, two owners who are desperate to sell and a deadline rapidly approaching. Anybody who's serious about buying the club couldn't possibly have an alignment of circumstances more in their favour. That being the case, why the feck would anybody reveal their bid before they absolutely have to and risk getting involved in a struggle which will push the price up? Would you, if you wanted to buy it? Would you feck, you'd sit on your hands and let the clock tick towards October 1st. You'd probably save yourself a couple of hundred million quid. You might even wait until the bank repossess it if you can get away with it, they'll be looking to offload it fairly sharpish afterwards at a knock down price.

Broughton (who is doing a good job IMHO) can say "I want all bids in by Thursday" all he wants, he knows and everyone knows that an eleventh hour smash and grab job would almost certainly succeed, just as it does in any business sale. Providing any late movers get in before any agreements in principle have been signed (and these two c...s won't be signing any of them until every single avenue has been explored), they'll be happy to let all the skirmishing take place between the also rans.

That's my point anyway. The real buyer IMHO will be keeping their cards close to their chests. It may well be this Sahara lot from India if you ask me (although nobody ever does obviously).

Hate to quote meself, but I fully admit I know feck all and even I can read the writing on the wall. Why on earth would a serious bidder come in at the moment and pay twice what he'll have to pay for the club in two months time? I wouldn't, you wouldn't and they wouldn't. Give it till October, and the banks will take the money off of the first person that offers it. The two Americans will end up with feck all.

My money is on that Sahara outfit, they're saying feck all and waiting. That's exactly what I would do if I was going to buy it.
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:38 pm

To draw a parallel, a Liverpool family owned business went bust 10 years ago not because their business strategy was wrong but because they over borrowed. The banks refinanced just twice, but at such high rates they were forcing the company to reverse its startegy. In the end, the interest payment cost of the refinancement put the company out of business, they couldnt get rid of their goods and they couldnt pay the interest. Ie, couldnt go forwards and couldnt go back.

T&T are in the same positions Lynds, yes they might refinance in October but if they do, I promise you it will be like handing them a timebomb.   'Here, hold this'.
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