Liverpool FC Forum

by **lakes10** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:18 am

Ciggy wrote:Lakes wtf is this sh!t serioulsy you take that blue nose kunt on Talksport to serious.

Shall I post executions of women and kids in the middle east? Because that still happens aswell.

Cig, I did not have talkshit on so i dont know what you are talking about sorry, i take it from what you said he was saying the same sort of stuff as i did?

by **GRAHAM01** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:23 am

lakes10 wrote:
GRAHAM01 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:right this is my last post about it but..............

how would we feel if our team had to play a game over their as part of a deal and some of their fans said something and got heard say it and this happend to them after the game...they are just fans like us.
football execution

football execution

right i just wanted to put something straight regarding this.

and i'm not saying i agree with any of it in the slitest

but the pics you have posted up there of the executions are not just for nothing, i have seen these pics before and they where executed for DRUG trafficking which is punishable by death in there country and at the end of the day they know if they get caught this is what will happen.

i do not know why they like to do it in public but they do!!

again the first lot of pics you put up i have seen before and come with a lot more pics, lots showing huge crowds watching the traffickers being shot, i'm not sure how true it is but i was told they sale tickets for this??

i just wanted to say that so that people didn't think those were for people just speaking out, as you said

I was not going to post anymore about it but your post stands out and i feel i must say something about it.

yes most are for DRUG trafficking ...well thats what they report them for, but in most cases its for doing something a lot smaller like using the internet or sending a letter , our talking bad about someone, if the real reason was given all the time then the world world be even more on their backs.
the say its for DRUG trafficking but its not, one pic of a lady that was shot is about her standing up for the Tibet, the line of men with cards were killed for saying words about the deaths in Tibet.

yes i would love our club to have money buy it will leave a bad taste to were that money has come from.

fair enough mate, i can only go on what i know and have been told and i believe these pics to be for drug trafficking,i'm sure if you say that it happens then it does which in my eyes shouldn't happen but what can we do

as for them taking over the club well i don't think that side of them will have anything to do with us, there are dirty crooked people in every country and i / we can only hope that they would not be the ones to take us over

if kenny does take us over and get rid of the 2 cancers at are club i can only hope we do not live to regret it, i don't think we would though imo

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:28 am

Lakes you can't take the moral high ground on this. There are numerous example of unscrupulous business and owners who invest in English football and business in general. I assume you will be boycotting games against Man City in protest of human rights violations in Saudi Arabia?

The Times reports this morning that CIC will not invest directly into Liverpool FC but instead into a company set up up by Huang. Essentially Huang will be the one invested in not Liverpool. It is on his conscience if he want to accept the Chinese government's money.

by **GRAHAM01** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:32 am

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Lakes you can't take the moral high ground on this. There are numerous example of unscrupulous business and owners who invest in English football and business in general. I assume you will be boycotting games against Man City in protest of human rights violations in Saudi Arabia?

The Times reports this morning that CIC will not invest directly into Liverpool FC but instead into a company set up up by Huang. Essentially Huang will be the one invested in not Liverpool. It is on his conscience if he want to accept the Chinese government's money.

scs

so does it say he will be loaning the money from them or are jusy backing him withing there company

sorry i know i should just look it up but?? :devil:

lazy me

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:35 am

lakes10 wrote:
GRAHAM01 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:right this is my last post about it but..............

how would we feel if our team had to play a game over their as part of a deal and some of their fans said something and got heard say it and this happend to them after the game...they are just fans like us.
football execution

football execution

right i just wanted to put something straight regarding this.

and i'm not saying i agree with any of it in the slitest

but the pics you have posted up there of the executions are not just for nothing, i have seen these pics before and they where executed for DRUG trafficking which is punishable by death in there country and at the end of the day they know if they get caught this is what will happen.

i do not know why they like to do it in public but they do!!

again the first lot of pics you put up i have seen before and come with a lot more pics, lots showing huge crowds watching the traffickers being shot, i'm not sure how true it is but i was told they sale tickets for this??

i just wanted to say that so that people didn't think those were for people just speaking out, as you said

I was not going to post anymore about it but your post stands out and i feel i must say something about it.

yes most are for DRUG trafficking ...well thats what they report them for, but in most cases its for doing something a lot smaller like using the internet or sending a letter , our talking bad about someone, if the real reason was given all the time then the world world be even more on their backs.
the say its for DRUG trafficking but its not, one pic of a lady that was shot is about her standing up for the Tibet, the line of men with cards were killed for saying words about the deaths in Tibet.

yes i would love our club to have money buy it will leave a bad taste to were that money has come from.

Lakes how exactly do you know what people are executed for ?

by **devaney** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:37 am

Lakes I don't blame you one bit for bringing up the behaviour of these people. It is a very long time since I bought anything Chinese or had a meal in one of their restaurants. Mind you that is partly due to the fact that I cannot stand the mass produced s.*i*e or their hygiene standards.

Female genocide is another one of their many unpleasant traits www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html

by **Dundalk** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:37 am

READ THIS - Everyones at it so can we just back to talking about footie and the Takeover

by **Dundalk** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:39 am

devaney wrote:Lakes I don't blame you one bit for bringing up the behaviour of these people. It is a very long time since I bought anything Chinese or had a meal in one of their restaurants. Mind you that is partly due to the fact that I cannot stand the mass produced s.*i*e or their hygiene standards.

Female genocide is another one of their many unpleasant traits www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html

The computer you are using was probably made in China not to mention your TV, ipod, tv, fridge, dishwasher, car...............

by **devaney** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:40 am

Benny The Noon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
GRAHAM01 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:right this is my last post about it but..............

how would we feel if our team had to play a game over their as part of a deal and some of their fans said something and got heard say it and this happend to them after the game...they are just fans like us.
football execution

football execution

right i just wanted to put something straight regarding this.

and i'm not saying i agree with any of it in the slitest

but the pics you have posted up there of the executions are not just for nothing, i have seen these pics before and they where executed for DRUG trafficking which is punishable by death in there country and at the end of the day they know if they get caught this is what will happen.

i do not know why they like to do it in public but they do!!

again the first lot of pics you put up i have seen before and come with a lot more pics, lots showing huge crowds watching the traffickers being shot, i'm not sure how true it is but i was told they sale tickets for this??

i just wanted to say that so that people didn't think those were for people just speaking out, as you said

I was not going to post anymore about it but your post stands out and i feel i must say something about it.

yes most are for DRUG trafficking ...well thats what they report them for, but in most cases its for doing something a lot smaller like using the internet or sending a letter , our talking bad about someone, if the real reason was given all the time then the world world be even more on their backs.
the say its for DRUG trafficking but its not, one pic of a lady that was shot is about her standing up for the Tibet, the line of men with cards were killed for saying words about the deaths in Tibet.

yes i would love our club to have money buy it will leave a bad taste to were that money has come from.

Lakes how exactly do you know what people are executed for ?

Does that really matter? We like to think that we live in a civilised country and apart from a small minority of spoiling idiots that is true. It takes a very special dictatorial attitude to execute young girls in public or before a football match. Do you really want to be associated in anyway with that sort of activity.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:40 am

Dundalk wrote:
devaney wrote:Lakes I don't blame you one bit for bringing up the behaviour of these people. It is a very long time since I bought anything Chinese or had a meal in one of their restaurants. Mind you that is partly due to the fact that I cannot stand the mass produced s.*i*e or their hygiene standards.

Female genocide is another one of their many unpleasant traits www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html

The computer you are using was probably made in China not to mention your TV, ipod, tv, fridge, dishwasher, car...............

Exactly, the hypocrisy stinks.

You see China is in the news so it is more important to take a stand... :Oo:

by **devaney** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:43 am

Dundalk wrote:
devaney wrote:Lakes I don't blame you one bit for bringing up the behaviour of these people. It is a very long time since I bought anything Chinese or had a meal in one of their restaurants. Mind you that is partly due to the fact that I cannot stand the mass produced s.*i*e or their hygiene standards.

Female genocide is another one of their many unpleasant traits www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html

The computer you are using was probably made in China not to mention your TV, ipod, tv, fridge, dishwasher, car...............

Wrong!

by **Anfield rapper** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:44 am

I'm hoping the chinese buy us and only allow LFC games to be broadcast to the masses.

by **lakes10** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:44 am

Benny The Noon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
GRAHAM01 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:right this is my last post about it but..............

how would we feel if our team had to play a game over their as part of a deal and some of their fans said something and got heard say it and this happend to them after the game...they are just fans like us.
football execution

football execution

right i just wanted to put something straight regarding this.

and i'm not saying i agree with any of it in the slitest

but the pics you have posted up there of the executions are not just for nothing, i have seen these pics before and they where executed for DRUG trafficking which is punishable by death in there country and at the end of the day they know if they get caught this is what will happen.

i do not know why they like to do it in public but they do!!

again the first lot of pics you put up i have seen before and come with a lot more pics, lots showing huge crowds watching the traffickers being shot, i'm not sure how true it is but i was told they sale tickets for this??

i just wanted to say that so that people didn't think those were for people just speaking out, as you said

I was not going to post anymore about it but your post stands out and i feel i must say something about it.

yes most are for DRUG trafficking ...well thats what they report them for, but in most cases its for doing something a lot smaller like using the internet or sending a letter , our talking bad about someone, if the real reason was given all the time then the world world be even more on their backs.
the say its for DRUG trafficking but its not, one pic of a lady that was shot is about her standing up for the Tibet, the line of men with cards were killed for saying words about the deaths in Tibet.

yes i would love our club to have money buy it will leave a bad taste to were that money has come from.

Lakes how exactly do you know what people are executed for ?

ok mate
here is a link, take care, if you get upsey at very very very nasty pics do not look at this link.

again do not look at this like they the pics might play on your mind for the rest of your life.

http://www.friendsoftibet.org/main/execution.html

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:46 am

But you don't know why they are being punished - it could of been for murder or drugs or anything . Every single country has skeletons in it's closet - China held prob the best Olympics of the modern era . You use stuff produced in china on a daily basis and I bet you don't bat an eyelid . How people run their own country is up to them - if the country has very strict laws then it's up to the people to abide by those laws . In some ways I wish we had far stricter laws in place . I visited China and Hong Kong two years ago and the place was wonderful . There is more outrageous acts carried out in both the middle east , USA every single day .

by **TarnRed** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:52 am

Just been watching SSN. Mark Ganis:

Apparently that is the man behind Huang. No formal bid has been made but this is what they propose:

* Make Liverpool debt free
* Build the new stadium
* Provide substantial transfer funds

He also went onto to add that if anybody wants to be buy the club at the unrealistic price of $950m then good luck to them. They also added that the club is in good hands and at the minute been run well and would be no major upheaval of any staff.

APNewsBreak: Group won't enrich Hicks, Gillett
By RONALD BLUM (AP) – 49 minutes ago

NEW YORK — A group of Chinese investors said Friday that any offer it makes to buy Liverpool from Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr. won't enrich the embattled American co-owners.

Marc Ganis, whose Chicago-based company Sportscorp Ltd. has helped form the investment group, said it first contacted Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton on Monday, a day after reports of a possible bid first surfaced.

"We haven't submitted a formal proposal but we submitted the broad parameters of what a proposal would look like to see if it would be welcomed, and it was," he said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press, hours after he returned to the United States from China.

A company called QSL Sports Limited would be controlling owner of the limited liability corporation that would own Liverpool FC. QSL is co-headed by Kenneth Huang, a Hong Kong businessman, and Guang Yang, executive vice president of Franklin Templeton Investments and chief investment officer of the China Life/Franklin Templeton Fund.

In an interview arranged through Hill & Knowlton Hong Kong, Ganis said those two would be the only owners involved in the management of the club. Other investors would be passive, and each would own no more than 20 percent.

China Investment Corp. — the country's sovereign wealth fund — would not have a direct ownership stake in the club. However, Ganis said it may be part of an investment vehicle organized by Yang and his financial team that would have a passive ownership interest.

Ganis said the group had four primary goals if it makes a bid:

_Leave Liverpool debt free.

_Make a significant equity investment and construct the long-delayed new stadium to replace Anfield.

_Invest a large amount that would be available for player transfers.

_Have an Asian initiative to expand Liverpool's fan base and commercial activities with the goal of creating new economic value for the club using QSL's platform in China.

"What is not one of our goals in the enrichment of the existing owners," Ganis said, "If we submit a proposal and it is accepted, it would be focused on the future and not the past."

Barclays has told potential bidders they will have to show they have the financing to go through with the proposals. After QSL's interest emerged, former Syrian club player Yahya Kirdi claimed Wednesday that he was fronting a consortium of investors from the Middle East and Canada that was close to completing a takeover.

Liverpool has won 18 English league titles — but none since 1990 — and its record has been matched by Manchester United. Beset by infighting between Hicks and Gillett plus player injuries, it failed to qualify for this season's Champions League, losing tens of millions of dollars in revenue.

But captain Steven Gerrard and star forward Fernando Torres decided to remain with the club under new manager Roy Hodgson, who replaced Rafa Benitez after last season. Ganis said any deal would not close until well after the summer transfer window ends Aug. 31.

Hicks, whose Texas Rangers were auctioned this week in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Fort Worth, bought Liverpool with Gillett three years ago in a deal valued at $431 million. Hicks said he wants $950 million to $1.25 billion for the club, whose known debt last stood at $375 million.

Ganis said his group will not bid close to that.

"If anybody wants to, good luck," he said, without disclosing what his group is willing to bid. "We know what we would be prepared to do. If somebody else wants to look at it in a different way, it's their money. That would be their business, not ours."

His group isn't concerned about high-spending owners in the Premier League, who include Manchester City's Sheik Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan and Chelsea's Roman Abramovich. Ganis said the Financial Fair Play rules that begin for European soccer this season will help curb extreme spending on transfers.

"That creates certain constraints that many observers feel are quite responsible and will reduce the risk of irrational money being spent," he said. "But even at that, Liverpool is and always should be one of the highest-spending clubs in all of football. And our financial models presume Liverpool will be at or near the top in spending on players every year."

Ganis said that they have been impressed in many ways with the manner in which Liverpool is being operated.

"From what we have seen from afar, many of the people currently running Liverpool are doing a good job," he said. "There shouldn't be an expectation there would be a mass upheaval if we submit and are approved."

Ganis and the China-based group began forming last spring as a potential investor with another group that evaluated a potential investment in Liverpool. Ganis contacted the Royal Bank of Scotland, which holds Liverpool's debt, and was put in contact last week with Broughton and Barclays Capital, which is attempting to sell the club for the co-owners.

QSL, in conjunction with the Chinese government, owns and operated two professional sports leagues and one minor league. QSL also owns sports publications and in September will roll out an all-sports website.

AP Sports Writer Rob Harris in London contributed to this report.

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