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by **tonyeh** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:39 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Title challenge ?! That's what your expectations are ?!

You can't read, can you?

by **Thinkpad** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:09 pm

I think we will challenge for the tittle. Why not? Not one game has been played and we expect to be struggling?
Whether anyone believed that he is the right man for the job or not does not matter.
After thinking about it, I think he could actually be the one to turn the club around.
What Liverpool need is some attacking, passing football. Those were lacking under Rafa.
Players that can't pass or hold the ball under pressure must be released or sold.
I don't see Liverpool having much to spent.
So grab some good buy from Germany, Serbia and Japan (Yes.. Japanese players are not bad).
It will also boost the club's coffers if we have a Jap in the team (Honda?).
The team should play with the ball on the ground and stop hoffing it ala "Wimbeldon" style.
Learn a thing or two from the German World Cup team.. do the blitzkrieg.
If Roy does all this and more, we can be challenging for the tittle..
Cheers.

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:19 pm

mart wrote:Finishing 5th or 6th with a good showing in at least one of the cups.
With luck we might battle for 4th.

this one

the defence is no way good enough to finish top 3.

carragher is declining, johnson cant defend and the left back is still a worry

id be happy with 4th and a cup run (because of our financial constraints, you cant expect more)

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:35 pm

tonyeh wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Title challenge ?! That's what your expectations are ?!

You can't read, can you?

Ok then let me rephrase it - " in the title race at xmas "

We havent got a hope of being in any title race this season and you can quote me on that - the only race we might have a chance of being in is for the 4th spot but even then thats a slim chance .

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:43 pm

Owzat wrote:- Battle bravely against mid-table mediocrity, struggling away from home
- Do the same as Fulham did in the Euro Disney except not get the same credit

and perhaps most importantly have low levels of optimism/expectation because of the new appointment. It is unusual for me to be this pessimistic on a new manager's appointment, I've been largely indifferent before.

F*cking hell, were you abducted by aliens, and did they switch your brain with someone elses? That's not a dig at you, Owzat, it's just a different tone of post from yourself and I thought I was reading someone elses for a second until I checked the name.

In either case I agree. I'd be pleasently surprised if the season doesn't pan out in any other way but the way you mentioned. The top four will be stregnthening, and City, Spurs and Villa will be spending whilst we could actually be losing key players. Roy will do well to get within 6 points of 4th IMO. We've a decent enough squad to be in the top four, but the squad isn't just the only problem. Time will tell. I hope I'm wrong. But I think Hodgson has landed himself in it here. No worries, though: he's only got 6th to aim for and that should keep some happy.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:47 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Owzat wrote:- Battle bravely against mid-table mediocrity, struggling away from home
- Do the same as Fulham did in the Euro Disney except not get the same credit

and perhaps most importantly have low levels of optimism/expectation because of the new appointment. It is unusual for me to be this pessimistic on a new manager's appointment, I've been largely indifferent before.

F*cking hell, were you abducted by aliens, and did they switch your brain with someone elses? That's not a dig at you, Owzat, it's just a different tone of post from yourself and I thought I was reading someone elses for a second until I checked the name.

In either case I agree. I'd be pleasently surprised if the season doesn't pan out in any other way but the way you mentioned. The top four will be stregnthening, and City, Spurs and Villa will be spending whilst we could actually be losing key players. Roy will do well to get within 6 points of 4th IMO. We've a decent enough squad to be in the top four, but the squad isn't just the only problem. Time will tell. I hope I'm wrong. But I think Hodgson has landed himself in it here. No worries, though: he's only got 6th to aim for and that should keep some happy.

In total agreement with both of you

Talk of title race and chances to win it and challenging for title is half the reason we have so many problems - people have too high expectations for the team/club and then when they dont met those expectations they start asking for heads to roll . If you keep your expectations more realistic then anything above that comes as a surprise

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:03 pm

weve lost benayoun and i doubt if the new guy from serbia can replace him or do aswell

reira is he still at the club?

our wide areas are looking pissss poor at the mo

as is our defence

i just hope mascherano, gerrard and torres stay otherwise 8th is probable

by **parchpea** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:29 pm

If we are lucky enough to hold onto our best players I think we can challenge for 4th place if Hodgson gets it right early doors and gets these lads moving. We have very good players at Liverpool but unfortunately many have under performed or been under used under the last regime. I should think all the younger lads on loan will be called back so Hodgson can get a look at them and make a decision. Should we lose a brighter light we will find another way, we have to, and will do because no player is irreplaceable, you change the system and find different solutions to problems. Thats what good managers do and Im hopeful Roy is flexible enough to take this approach and allow players expression on the field.

by **LFC2007** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:35 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Ok then let me rephrase it - " in the title race at xmas "

We havent got a hope of being in any title race this season and you can quote me on that - the only race we might have a chance of being in is for the 4th spot but even then thats a slim chance .

But, under the same circumstances, you believed that Rafa would at the very least have got us back into the top four next season? But you're near-certain Hodgson won't, because he's Hodgson?

Also, some have said that Spurs making the top four was a fluke one-off because we were sh!t, but the same people expect us to finish below them again next season. Surely not a one-off then.

Personally, I'm expecting to see us make our way back into the top four next season and go on a cup run; a day out at Wemberley would be nice.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:40 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Ok then let me rephrase it - " in the title race at xmas "

We havent got a hope of being in any title race this season and you can quote me on that - the only race we might have a chance of being in is for the 4th spot but even then thats a slim chance .

But, under the same circumstances, you believed that Rafa would at the very least have got us back into the top four next season? But you're near-certain Hodgson won't, because he's Hodgson?

Also, some have said that Spurs making the top four was a fluke one-off because we were sh!t, but the same people expect us to finish below them again next season. Surely not a one-off then.

Personally, I'm expecting to see us make our way back into the top four next season and go on a cup run; a day out at Wemberley would be nice.

I believe our previous manager would of had a better chance than hodgson of getting back into the top 4 because IMO I think previous manager is a better manager and may well of had a better chance of keeping our better players but its not to do be . Overall I think either manager would and will struggle to get near top 4 due to lack of investment and he ability to bring the better players to the club . City wih their money will bring better players and spurs because the lure of CL footy

by **kalos** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:49 pm

Roy Hodgson- nice bloke who has achieved his dream simply by becoming Liverpool manager.

Just like Roy Evans he has nothing else left to fulfill in terms of ambition.

We will be out of the title race before end October with him in charge, hope I'm wrong but seriously
if oyu are Torres, Gerrard, Carra, Masch would you feel inspired by this choice?

No decent league ever won, no Champions league experience (as far as I know).

What a truly sad state of affairs.

by **Thommo's perm** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:07 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Ok then let me rephrase it - " in the title race at xmas "

We havent got a hope of being in any title race this season and you can quote me on that - the only race we might have a chance of being in is for the 4th spot but even then thats a slim chance .

But, under the same circumstances, you believed that Rafa would at the very least have got us back into the top four next season? But you're near-certain Hodgson won't, because he's Hodgson?

Also, some have said that Spurs making the top four was a fluke one-off because we were sh!t, but the same people expect us to finish below them again next season. Surely not a one-off then.

Personally, I'm expecting to see us make our way back into the top four next season and go on a cup run; a day out at Wemberley would be nice.

I believe our previous manager would of had a better chance than hodgson of getting back into the top 4 because IMO I think previous manager is a better manager and may well of had a better chance of keeping our better players but its not to do be . Overall I think either manager would and will struggle to get near top 4 due to lack of investment and he ability to bring the better players to the club . City wih their money will bring better players and spurs because the lure of CL footy

The only way we were going with Rafa was down
He lost many of the players and many of the fans
Best for everyone that he went

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:11 pm

kalos wrote:Roy Hodgson- nice bloke who has achieved his dream simply by becoming Liverpool manager.

Just like Roy Evans he has nothing else left to fulfill in terms of ambition.

We will be out of the title race before end October with him in charge, hope I'm wrong but seriously
if oyu are Torres, Gerrard, Carra, Masch would you feel inspired by this choice?

No decent league ever won, no Champions league experience (as far as I know).

What a truly sad state of affairs.

no decent trophys won?

but when has he ever had a top job where hes been expected to win big things?

hes an organiser, gets the best out of average players and will steady the :censored:

we aint in the right place to win anything, our expectations must be 5th place at best

by **kalos** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:21 pm

we aint in the right place to win anything, our expectations must be 5th place at best

With Hodgson in charge that is above my expectations.

As I said a truly sad state of affairs. My expectations for LFC have always been attracting the best management and players. With the current owners all expectations have plummeted.

by **Homebooby** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:24 pm

Ciggy wrote:First priority is a another striker, and not Bobby Zamora or Andy Johnson.

Agreed. The squad isn't bad and worthy of a challenge for the title, but we need more goal power. If we can shift the dependancy on Nando and Stevie to a wider group, we're in with a chance......I hear Owen is a good option

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