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by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:30 pm

maguskwt wrote:
lakes10 wrote:the best intrest for the club is to let RBS set the selling price, this will see the club sold fast but at a low profit to G&h, G&H had an idea that it might come to this and thats why they put another bank in charge of finding a buyer making it a bit harder for RBS to set the price, it still can be done in a few steops but needs the other banks to give their say so.

so what's stopping RBS from asking G&H to repay the loans? can you ask your friends that please?

and what's the main criteria for G&H in finding a buyer? MAXIMUM PROFIT... and in the mean time they will just siphon off the money that the club takes in... while happily waiting for their buyer when they can happily pocket their profit...

is that in the best interest of the club? NO

as we know G&H have almost put none of their own money into the club, nothing is in their name, the account that the loan is on have no money in it to pay the loan back (well apart from the intrest).

both G&H COULD PAY THE LOAN OFF WITH THEIR OWN MONEY IF THEY LIKED BUT THAT WOPULD NEVER HAPPEN.

What you must get in your mind now is that G&H HAVE NO CONTROL over the money the club makes now, they dont hold the books and can not use any of the clubs money.

the owners have never had the best intrest of the club in mind, it has always been how to make profit. Hicks did not tell GG the truth about how much money he was going to put into the club when he agrred to buy it with him, thats why they fell out.

the only thing the owners have control over now is the price the club is sold at, if RBS can push this can also be taken off of them.

by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:51 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Its a fecking disgrace , BECAUSE THE MEDIA SAID SO,
Forget about Rafa here for a minute, That reply tells you what is happening at this club. The tw,ats are listening and believing and doing what the media think is right,

Absolutly disgusted .

SOME FANS WERE NOT HAPPY

BROUGHTON " BUT THATS NOT WHAT THE MEDIA WAS SAYING,

Im not the media IM A SUPPORTER WHO PAYS MY MONEY an im saying .GET THE FECK OUT OF MY CLUB. GO BACK TO YOUR CHELSEA RENTBOYS AND TAKE CHRISTIE WITH YEH.

the only thing i take he meant from "media" was all the phone ins and tv reports with liverpool fans saying that she should go.

poor choice of words by him, if he had said "that what the fans are saying then you could take it that it was true, even this forum was more for him going that staying.

but i agree that we have the wrong person in charge of the club right now.

but i also think givein Kenny a long contract will be a bad thig, the guy has not done the job for years and things have moved on in the player stakes. short tearm yes but no more than that.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:31 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Rush Job wrote:I have a few mates in high profile jobs in london, bussines, media etc. Ive spoke to them all about this and they all say the same thing............ Lakes speaks sh!te.

Sorry if you dont like what i say about Rafa talking to other clubs but i am not going to lie on here just to make you happy.

even you must see that it would take longer that 5 days for a club to work out a new contract with Rafa.

What do you mean even I should see? Why because you said it?
I`m sure rafa new the writing was on the wall weeks before,and unless something changed he would need a new job. And no you only lie on here to make you happy.

If your stating opinions as facts then you need to be able to prove it, otherwise its just more of your spin.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:34 pm

Edit.

by **Rush Job** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:03 am

lakes10 wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Lakes... if you can't see the fact that the reason the money men got rid of Rafa is because Rafa is in their way of doing whatever they like to the club (and that includes selling the cub's best assets like Gerrard and Torres to reduce the loan) you must be feckin blind...

seriously how can any fan be happy about Rafa being sacked? they must be feckin short-sighted and ignorant...

"Heyyyyy we're happy because we got rid of that fat spanish waiter because he sux because he got us to 7th once in six seasons"...

If the club is in the hands of stable owners I wouldn't mind sacking Rafa as well... but the fact is that it is not...

From now on, if we don't find owners soon enough and they don't appoint Kenny the club will be spiralling downwards like the barcodes...

1. the owners did not get rid of RAFA the board did,
2. Rafa was going to leave for Inter as he was already in talks with them

3. Fans can be happy that Rafa has gone as he has done nothing in the last 4 years and we have a team that has over 100 players in and out of the club since he has been here and we have ended up with a team that i feel could have been beaten by a GH team.

4 the board might havbe another manager in mind for the job...mon.

If the board had knowledge that rafa was off to inter then why pay him off? Why not wait for the compo?

by **Rush Job** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:05 am

lakes10 wrote:and as for the media stuff, yes a lot of it that comes in is not 100% and thats why the BBC dont run with it, as i have always said i post that stuff for you all to make your own mind up.

And we do lakes, dont worry about that.

by **maguskwt** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:17 am

lakes10 wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
lakes10 wrote:the best intrest for the club is to let RBS set the selling price, this will see the club sold fast but at a low profit to G&h, G&H had an idea that it might come to this and thats why they put another bank in charge of finding a buyer making it a bit harder for RBS to set the price, it still can be done in a few steops but needs the other banks to give their say so.

so what's stopping RBS from asking G&H to repay the loans? can you ask your friends that please?

and what's the main criteria for G&H in finding a buyer? MAXIMUM PROFIT... and in the mean time they will just siphon off the money that the club takes in... while happily waiting for their buyer when they can happily pocket their profit...

is that in the best interest of the club? NO

as we know G&H have almost put none of their own money into the club, nothing is in their name, the account that the loan is on have no money in it to pay the loan back (well apart from the intrest).

both G&H COULD PAY THE LOAN OFF WITH THEIR OWN MONEY IF THEY LIKED BUT THAT WOPULD NEVER HAPPEN.

What you must get in your mind now is that G&H HAVE NO CONTROL over the money the club makes now, they dont hold the books and can not use any of the clubs money.

the owners have never had the best intrest of the club in mind, it has always been how to make profit. Hicks did not tell GG the truth about how much money he was going to put into the club when he agrred to buy it with him, thats why they fell out.

the only thing the owners have control over now is the price the club is sold at, if RBS can push this can also be taken off of them.

Of course I know that G&H didn't put their own money in when they purchased LFC and they couldn't directly pay it back. But they created Kop Holdings and linked it to the club. What I'm asking is why are RBS such pussies and not recalling their loan? RBS aren't doing very well themselves now are they? their asian operations were being taken over by ANZ in May.

Please ask your friends that lakes... why are RBS such pussies and not recall their loan and or push the owners to sell when they had two 'perfect' offers.

And you haven't answered my question which ex players and staff do you meet up with lakes? If you want to be credible on here you will tell us that...

by **leep33** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:00 am

I keep hoping RBS will put pressure on the owners, maybe they are, but it does seem to have gone quiet on the takeover front. It is a little worrying to say the least, i am wondering just how many of our decent players we will have to sell!!

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:39 am

maguskwt wrote:And you haven't answered my question which ex players and staff do you meet up with lakes? If you want to be credible on here you will tell us that...

one of them is Julian Dicks who is good friends with a lot of other ex players.

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:47 am

Rush Job wrote:another manager in mind for the job...mon.

If the board had knowledge that rafa was off to inter then why pay him off? Why not wait for the compo?[/quote]
can we make this the last post about Rafa in this thread, move the talk to the Rafa thread and we can pick it up there.

Its still a hard one to work out, a lot seem to think it was done to save face "how dare he walk away from us"

but is says a lot that he only got 6mil and not the 16mil that was in his contracr so i get the feeling that they used info about his agents actions to gut the pay out.

by **maguskwt** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:22 pm

lakes10 wrote:
maguskwt wrote:And you haven't answered my question which ex players and staff do you meet up with lakes? If you want to be credible on here you will tell us that...

one of them is Julian Dicks who is good friends with a lot of other ex players.

So what did Julian dicks say?

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:41 pm

Politicians set to tackle Liverpool FC ownership issue in Parliament

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:42 pm

Politicians set to tackle Liverpool FC ownership issue in Parliament

by **SeaofRed** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:31 pm

It is a sad day for football when Governments have to involve themselves in the issues surrounding clubs.

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:13 pm

SeaofRed wrote:It is a sad day for football when Governments have to involve themselves in the issues surrounding clubs.

it should have been delt with 4 years ago.
Football clubs have been getting into silly debt trying to keep up with one team in the prem.

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