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by **NANNY RED** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:54 pm

Me daily visit in here just wanna say

Basta.rds

Thats all

by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:19 am

roberto green wrote:Just a bit of information for yous from a very good source.Some of yous might already know or heard of this, My brother in law has just got back from Madrid because he went with his girlfriend who's brother Neil Thomas lives in Madrid as he runs the Madrid Liverpool supporters club,

my brother in law(who is a bitter) was speaking to Neil and he knows one of Rafa's best friends in Madrid and apparently Rafa desperately wanted to stay but he was told his prize asset was going to be sold on which he wouldn't disclose but it was either Fernando or Stevie.

Now in his contract he signed last season it had wrote into it that any transfer dealing went through him and he gets the final say so Rafa was meant to be fuming that this contract meant nothing and seeked reassurances that at least he would get the money off the player to reinvest in the squad but was told he would get a percentage off the sale.So in other words it was going towards paying the debt the club is in.

So that was the final straw and he knew he couldn't carry on and you may think 6m pay off but 6m of 70m for Torress is probably the percentage he would of got off his transfer.

I don't usually like quoting anyone but this is from a very reliable source

mate say that is right and he did wish to stay, ask your self why did he not act like it.
his agent was in talks with other clubs before xmas and then inter as soon as the job come up.

going by so reports from newspapers over there Inter were in talks with Rafa before JOM left the club. they had almost sorted out the contract and thats why it only took 4 days from Rafa going to him saying yes to them.

i think its a bit of Rafa spin, something he was very good at.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:25 am

roberto green wrote:Just a bit of information for yous from a very good source.Some of yous might already know or heard of this, My brother in law has just got back from Madrid because he went with his girlfriend who's brother Neil Thomas lives in Madrid as he runs the Madrid Liverpool supporters club,

my brother in law(who is a bitter) was speaking to Neil and he knows one of Rafa's best friends in Madrid and apparently Rafa desperately wanted to stay but he was told his prize asset was going to be sold on which he wouldn't disclose but it was either Fernando or Stevie.

Now in his contract he signed last season it had wrote into it that any transfer dealing went through him and he gets the final say so Rafa was meant to be fuming that this contract meant nothing and seeked reassurances that at least he would get the money off the player to reinvest in the squad but was told he would get a percentage off the sale.So in other words it was going towards paying the debt the club is in.

So that was the final straw and he knew he couldn't carry on and you may think 6m pay off but 6m of 70m for Torress is probably the percentage he would of got off his transfer.

I don't usually like quoting anyone but this is from a very reliable source

Is anyone supprised though,if its true? Er....No

by **Rush Job** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:37 am

I have a few mates in high profile jobs in london, bussines, media etc. Ive spoke to them all about this and they all say the same thing............ Lakes speaks sh!te.

by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 am

Rush Job wrote:I have a few mates in high profile jobs in london, bussines, media etc. Ive spoke to them all about this and they all say the same thing............ Lakes speaks sh!te.

Sorry if you dont like what i say about Rafa talking to other clubs but i am not going to lie on here just to make you happy.

even you must see that it would take longer that 5 days for a club to work out a new contract with Rafa.

by **parchpea** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:37 am

Benitez was a genius at manipulating the fans and media in order to improve his own situation and raise his profile. Managers are there to coach the team and not to get involved in club politics but Rafa just could not keep his mouth shut and get on with s job. It was always going to end this way and he knew that only too well and began looking for other jobs ready for the axe falling.

by **Owzat** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:42 am

parchpea wrote:Benitez was a genius at manipulating the fans and media in order to improve his own situation and raise his profile.

He seems an expert at it, even after leaving.

by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:57 am

Owzat wrote:
parchpea wrote:Benitez was a genius at manipulating the fans and media in order to improve his own situation and raise his profile.

He seems an expert at it, even after leaving.

pmsl, you better run.

by **zarababe** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:59 am

parchpea wrote:Benitez was a genius at manipulating the fans and media in order to improve his own situation and raise his profile. Managers are there to coach the team and not to get involved in club politics but Rafa just could not keep his mouth shut and get on with s job. It was always going to end this way and he knew that only too well and began looking for other jobs ready for the axe falling.

you are truly an 'ar.se'

by **tubby** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:00 am

I think you 2 are missing the sin bin.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:02 am

The MEDIA . THE FU.CKING MEDIA . OUR BOARD LISTENS TO THE MEDIA . IM F.UCKING RAGING HERE RAGING ,THE MEDIA DONT SPEAK FOR ME MARTY LAD YOU SHI.THOUSE.

From:
Date: 10 June 2010 12:40
Subject: Re: Thank you for killing my club
To: Jim Boardman < >

Jim,

I’m sorry you think like that but you are entitled to your opinion.

I note your opinion doesn’t seem to be shared by the media.

You may also recall that I am Chairman with the principle remit of finding a new and suitable owner for the club. I am nevertheless Chairman and I’m surprised you don’t seem to think that releasing the manager from his contract is a Board matter.

Martin Broughton

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:07 am

pOSTED ON ANOTHER SITE.

The following email has been sitting in the Anfield Road inbox for a day-and-a-half now. As the hours have ticked by the sense of bemusement at what it contains has grown.

In the wake of the board’s decision last week to get rid of manager Rafael Benítez whilst retaining the services of the (temporary) managing director Christian Purslow, it was felt necessary to vent some anger at the man whose name was on the announcement. That man being the new Chairman, Martin Broughton.

The email pointed out that if Rafa Benítez had been considered a failure, surely Christian Purslow was one too? Wasn’t his main task, the main point he was hired, to find some new investment for the club? People who’ve spoken to him will recall how Purslow bigged himself up as some kind of saviour from the owners and their own failings.

Yet Purslow is known to have completely ignored a genuine, firm, proposal to finance the new stadium. Maybe there’s a good reason why the kind of person with access to funding for a £300m stadium isn’t even worth meeting up with when urgently looking for £100m investment in the club.

If the email had been sent a day or two later it may not have been written with quite the same tone. The anger was at Christian Purslow still being in his job as much as the departure of Benítez. The email was sent with thoughts about leaks from “senior sources” fresh in the mind. The email was sent because there would have been enough evidence of those leaks and that failure for Broughton to act and to end that temporary appointment.

He had the power, yet the line coming from the club was that he was only there to sell the club. The senior source was very insistent that his new boss wasn’t really his boss, just there to sell the club.

And that begged the question – was the chairman just there to sell the club, or did he have the power to do far more? He certainly seemed to be involved in the removal of Benítez, so why was Purslow still there?

The subject of the note captured the emotions of the moment: “Thank you for killing my club”.

And the note called, in no uncertain terms, for Broughton to resign and to take Purslow with him.

No reply was expected.

There was no obligation for the Chairman to reply, but to give him his due he did reply. It took him a week, but he’s said to only work one day per week for the club so that’s not an unreasonable timeframe.

He completely ignored the criticism of Purslow, perhaps because he couldn’t find a way to defend that criticism. But he wanted to defend his involvement in the removal of the manager, explaining that although his “principle remit” was to find those new owners, he was still Chairman.

So that justified his involvement and closed any doubt as to how much of a part he can play in the running of the club. If it’s important enough, he can get involved. If it’s a board matter, he’s the Chairman; it’s his job to lead the board.

But when it came to justifying the decision to let the manager go his justification was a bigger surprise than actually getting a reply.

The expectation might have been for him to list the number of games lost, the points dropped or league positions moved downwards. Maybe a mention of large parts of the squad being unhappy with the manager (which it now turns out is not as likely to have been the case as some previously claimed) or even a vague mention of how all parties involved had discussed the situation and reluctantly decided it would be better for all concerned to part company.

But no, it was none of those reasons.

He wrote: “I’m sorry you think like that but you are entitled to your opinion. I note your opinion doesn’t seem to be shared by the media.”

Pardon?

So forget results, performances, transfer spend or (in this club’s case) transfer profit. Forget team spirit, supporter feelings and ticket sales. None of that is as important as checking those back pages.

Does that include the stories including the obvious briefings against the manager from “senior figures inside the boardroom”?

Is this how Liverpool Football Club now hires and fires its managers? It checks the media for their view?

It analyses the views of all those ex-players, many of them paid to be outspoken or asked leading questions to get them to answer a certain way?

Does it exclude the articles by writers who support this club and have always known how it works? Not the ones with axes to grind or revenge to be served, the good ones. Does it include the articles by those journalists who had clearly been briefed by “senior sources” against the manager?

There’s not a great deal to add to that really.

Except for this: Listen to those ex-players now. Some of them agree with you that Rafa had to go. Some of them don’t. But they all want you to choose Kenny Dalglish as the next manager. Very few of them can see a reason to put Roy Hodgson or Martin O’Neill above the man who really does know how this club works.

The one man, as it happens, who might just help you to sell this club – assuming you want to sell it.

The only man who can really bring unity back to the supporters. The only candidate to have won the league. The man who has a lot of unfinished business to get on with.

The man who knows how to deal with the media. Ask Kelvin McKenzie about that one. Actually don’t, because nobody from this club should speak to Kelvin McKenzie, and he knows this. Kenny told him.

You’re better with Kenny on your side than against you.

He might even teach you how to make better use of the media.

by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:18 am

Nan, sorry but apart from the fans on this forum and RAWK, a lot of fans are very happy that Rafa has gone, yes they said to see him go as he got on so well with the fans, but when it come down to his job in the prem he did not gut it.
the guy that sent the email was not thinkingf about the club but just his own love for Rafa.

I feel this is the best move the club has made in two years.

The sale of the club is something that G&H are looking foe, yes its down to their (more Hicks) greed that the club has not been sold yet....but it will happen and it will be sooner than later.

RBS have taken stick in the media at a time that is already bad for them.

lets face facts, G&H got the best two companies in the world to look for buyers and G&H took no notice it what they said, that is why they have lost all power at the club right now.

The board sacked Rafa not the owners...for once you can blames them that something you dont like happened.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:25 am

You dont f.ucking get it do you, its not about sacking or backing ,its about our fecking board listening to the media. tHE MEDIA WERE RIGHT , IM ABSOLUTLY RAGING HERE , aRE THE MEDIA GONNA PICK OUR NEXT BOSS ,ARE THE MEDIA NOW GONNA TELL US WHO TO SIGN, . tHIS CLUB HAVE LISTENED TO THE SHI/ITE THE MEDIA HAS SPROUTED , hE IS HERE ONE DAY A WEEK AND HOLDS THIS CLUB IN HIS HANDS,

well print this in the media

BROUGHTON F.UCK OFF FROM OUR CLUB AND TAKE YEH MATE CHRISTIE WITH YEH,

by **tubby** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:58 am

lakes10 wrote:Nan, sorry but apart from the fans on this forum and RAWK, a lot of fans are very happy that Rafa has gone, yes they said to see him go as he got on so well with the fans, but when it come down to his job in the prem he did not gut it.
the guy that sent the email was not thinkingf about the club but just his own love for Rafa.

I feel this is the best move the club has made in two years.

The sale of the club is something that G&H are looking foe, yes its down to their (more Hicks) greed that the club has not been sold yet....but it will happen and it will be sooner than later.

RBS have taken stick in the media at a time that is already bad for them.

lets face facts, G&H got the best two companies in the world to look for buyers and G&H took no notice it what they said, that is why they have lost all power at the club right now.

The board sacked Rafa not the owners...for once you can blames them that something you dont like happened.

A lot of fans are happy? Then why was there a protest after he left? Let's see how happy those fans are once we sell Torres.

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