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Postby Stu the Red » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:39 pm

Kash_Mountain » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:34 pm wrote:It might be that BR keeps rushing him to get fit, though I know he is injury prone, he may just need a bit longer to recover, who knows!  Anyway, If that is the case,  it shows that BR is heavily reliant on an injury prone player to get us back in the grand scheme of things, not a good policy at all. It effectively means that  BR is looking at Sturridge to plaster the cracks that have appeared in all department which are down to his (BR's) stubborn tactics which everyone can see except himself and current crop of Coaches.


Its not just his tactics, his signings and lack of, his lack anything and his complete failiure to improve the defence, an average midfield and his weakening of the goalkeeping positions since he came into the club.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:09 pm

Stu the Red » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:31 pm wrote:There is two sides to that argument though Kazza, there is the other side that footballers often need to be at 100% to compete regularly throughout ninety minutes and need to not have other distractions and also the likes of what happened to Owen where his hamstrings had effectively been destroyed by the age of 22/23 years old from being rushed back. He has his hole career ahead of him and risking it for the short term isn't sensible.

I do think Sturridge is the fragile type and I don't think you can expect that Carragher like steel from him, however, he's played through pain before and I don't think he's a complete wimp, I've seen him take more than one heavy wacks in a match and winced and he's gone on to even score in such games. I've never been his biggest fan, I never will be and I believe people over rate his importance and quality but I'd like to think I'm very balanced when it comes to him.

For me, he's just been a bit unlucky and is a bit fragile, nothing more. Whats more worrying is this ridiculous over reliance on him. We're effectively sat here dismissing our chances of finishing fourth due to missing him so much... when I feel had we signed Remy, I don't think it would be even an issue as both players of a similar level of quality.


Yep, Sturridge is an natural athlete and those types of players tend to pick up injuries more easily than 'yeoman' types like Carragher and Skrtel. Olympic sprinters get injured just running in a straight line so it's not really surprising that players like Owen, Walcott and Sturridge pick up a lot of muscle injuries when they are constantly accelerating, slamming on the breaks and changing direction all the time, when you are naturally quick like those 3 it must put a hell of a lot of strain on your body.
Gerrard in his younger days was the same, in his prime he was probably the quickest CM I've ever seen, looking at him now it's easy to forget just how athletic he was and he was beset by injuries himself.
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Postby C-R » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:04 pm

Scans have revealed that Daniel Sturridge will be sidelined for a further six weeks with the thigh injury he suffered in training. #LFC

Sturridge set to miss a further 12 Liverpool matches, including final 2 CL group matches and PL games v likes of Man Utd and Arsenal. #LFC

He is likely to miss these matches...

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Postby C-R » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:15 pm

Liverpool FC have been dealt another crushing setback after Daniel Sturridge was ruled out for a further six weeks with a thigh injury.

The prolific striker is unlikely to play again until the new year after scan results today confirmed the Reds’ worst fears.

Sturridge, who pulled up during a training session at Melwood on Tuesday, has suffered a grade two thigh strain.

It’s a new injury and different to the one he originally suffered while on duty with England in early September.

Sturridge had been on course to make his long-awaited comeback in Sunday’s Premier League clash at Crystal Palace having returned to full training last week.

However, those hopes now lie in tatters and he faces another lengthy spell on the sidelines.

The 25-year-old, who hasn’t featured for the Reds since the win at Tottenham in late August, has already missed the past 14 matches in all competitions.

Now he’s set to sit out at least another dozen games, including nine Premier League matches, two Champions League clashes with Ludogorets and Basel, and the Capital One Cup quarter-final at Bournemouth.

It’s a massive blow for boss Brendan Rodgers, who was desperate to welcome Sturridge back after his side’s wretched run of form.

During the last eight league matches Liverpool have played without Sturridge they have scored just eight goals and picked up just eight points.

The initial thigh injury Sturridge suffered during an England training session kept him out for six weeks and then in mid-October, just days away from making his comeback, he pulled up lame with a calf strain.

Rodgers now has little option but to put his faith in strikers Mario Balotelli, Rickie Lambert and Fabio Borini, who don’t have a single league goal between them so far this season.
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Postby kazza » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:45 pm

Stu the Red » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:31 pm wrote:There is two sides to that argument though Kazza, there is the other side that footballers often need to be at 100% to compete regularly throughout ninety minutes and need to not have other distractions and also the likes of what happened to Owen where his hamstrings had effectively been destroyed by the age of 22/23 years old from being rushed back. He has his hole career ahead of him and risking it for the short term isn't sensible.

I do think Sturridge is the fragile type and I don't think you can expect that Carragher like steel from him, however, he's played through pain before and I don't think he's a complete wimp, I've seen him take more than one heavy wacks in a match and winced and he's gone on to even score in such games. I've never been his biggest fan, I never will be and I believe people over rate his importance and quality but I'd like to think I'm very balanced when it comes to him.

For me, he's just been a bit unlucky and is a bit fragile, nothing more. Whats more worrying is this ridiculous over reliance on him. We're effectively sat here dismissing our chances of finishing fourth due to missing him so much... when I feel had we signed Remy, I don't think it would be even an issue as both players of a similar level of quality.

Gerrard had all sorts of injury issues relating to growth spurts when he was younger but I never saw him as fragile as he did have that steel. Sterling also takes a beating sometimes and bounces back happily. These injuries during training seem suspicious to me as it is not normal that someone would be so injury prone without the heavy contact. Sturridge's love of fashion, has wanting to be an actor after he retires I see him as lacking heart and drive. You get all sorts on a team so there is a place for him but to rely on someone that lacks "steel" is always going to be a problem.

As for Remy I thought he would be good for us but 1. He had a problem with his heart or 2. Had a drug problem, I can see why we did not buy him. Chelsea will happily take him because they seem to have no integrity and frankly they do not need him so easier to take that risk. As it is he has hardly played for them and is now injured.
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Postby red till i die!! » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:55 pm

Id seriously doubt remy has a Drug problem kazza  :D 
What ever our reasons where for not signing him Chelsea didn't have the same reservations and thats what has me miffed about the whole situation. He had to of passed a Drug test at their medical and the hole in the heart hasn't affected his career so far and not deemed a problem for them.
Its more likely borini refusing to leave caused the club to withdraw from the deal.
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Postby tonna » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:36 pm

Gutted about this latest setback - at least it gives Borini yet another chance.
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Postby only me » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:04 pm

I think it's evident at this stage we need to write Danny off and look for 2 new strikers.
He has a chronic condition and it's just ridiculous to keep waiting for his return. BR was a fool for not considering this scenario.

Physio guys can fck off as well with the scouting team.
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Postby Stu the Red » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:05 am

only me » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:04 pm wrote:I think it's evident at this stage we need to write Danny off and look for 2 new strikers.
He has a chronic condition and it's just ridiculous to keep waiting for his return. BR was a fool for not considering this scenario.

Physio guys can fck off as well with the scouting team.


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Postby Reg » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:41 am

Liverpool must sign striker in January transfer window. Waiting for Daniel Sturridge futile - fitness too unreliable

It wouldn't matter if Daniel Sturridge was greatest Liverpool striker since Ian Rush, he is - as Bill Shankly said about injured players - a 'bloody menace' when not available
 
Liverpool must sign striker in January transfer window. Waiting for Daniel Sturridge is futile - his fitness too unreliable

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12:03PM GMT 19 Nov 2014

It is with great regret Liverpool must postpone their Premier League cavalry charge because Daniel Sturridge has handed in another doctor's note.  Sturridge is a fantastic footballer, but his latest injury underlines the risks of expecting his return to be the catalyst for a Liverpool revival.

For the last two weeks it has felt like Liverpool were preparing to re-arm with the help of a striker who can actually score goals but, not for the first time, just as they were readying to raise those swords and sprint into battle, they have been halted by the sound of a groan up ahead, their charismatic front man limping away holding his calf or thigh.

"Those darn genetics. They've struck again," is the not-so inspirational rally cry.

Brendan Rodgers has warned of Sturridge's absenteeism so much, this can't be dismissed as mere bad luck. Put aside the despair, it is hardly a surprise.

The concern is how much worse will it get without him? Mario Balotelli, Rickie Lambert and Fabio Borini have not scored a Premier League goal this season, and when you ally this to a defence which has added the derogatory adjective 'Lovren-esque' to the Anfield vernacular, you're left with a team deservedly in the bottom half of the table.

It has reached the point where Rodgers might as well presume Sturridge is not coming to the rescue any time soon and, by the time we do see him back in a Liverpool shirt, there may not be much left to play for unless there is a radical upturn in form.

It would not matter if Sturridge was the greatest Liverpool striker since Ian Rush, he is - as Bill Shankly once put it about injured players - a 'bloody menace' when not available.

If you can't trust your star striker to be fit there is no option but to look elsewhere. Liverpool must sign another striker in January. In fact, it's hard to recall the last time the club was so urgently in need of a new No 9.

Even during relatively barren spells they could rely on Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen, Fernando Torres and Luis Suarez to inspire victories.

Much maligned figures such as Djibril Cisse and Emile Heskey were world beaters in comparison to the current crop.

Go further down the food chain and those considered flops beyond Anfield were far more effective than credited. In 2000, Liverpool had successive games against Leeds United (home), Arsenal (away) and Manchester United (away) - the clubs finishing in the top three that season. The only front two available were Erik Meijer and Titi Camara. Liverpool beat Leeds and Arsenal and drew with United. Give Rodgers those two at Crystal Palace this weekend and you'll get work rate (Meijer) and a goal threat (Camara). Show Mario the videos and he will learn plenty, Brendan.

For all the (justified) focus on their defence and imbalance in midfield, Liverpool have never looked so bereft upfront, which is mindboggling considering they spent £120 million a few months ago, including £30m on three new strikers (one of which - Divock Origi - remains in France until July).

Now they've created a dilemma and a mess due to the failure to prepare and adapt to Luis Suarez's exit. There will be a premium to pay in January - especially as everyone can see how desperate they are - but Liverpool insist the money is there if it is required. If that is the case, it is inconceivable it won't be used, even if this will be interpreted as public acceptance serious errors were made in the summer. After the miserable defeat to Chelsea exposed the gulf in spending habits, Liverpool's transfer committee members ought to have used recent weeks practising the skill of pulling rabbits out of hats.

Rodgers's ambitions for the current campaign are in danger of being re-evaluated on a weekly basis, and yet the equally erratic form of their rivals still offers hope.

A year of consolidation in the top four, progression into the knockout stages of the Champions League and the collection of the first trophy of the Rodgers era was the ambition last August.

The Liverpool manager can argue all remain achievable despite a turgid campaign thus far, but it is the regression of Liverpool's playing style to that of 2009-12, as much as the results, that has caused a disturbance.

This latest season of transition was supposed to be one of a club within the top four preparing for a title bid next season, not of a side that nearly won it a year ago returning to the pack in readiness for its next Champions League qualification bid.

Liverpool have spent this year in Europe looking like they've returned to the elite competition too soon, while convincing no-one they are anywhere but Uefa's short-stay car park.

Sturridge's comeback was meant to change all this. He was to signal a return to the fluidity witnessed just once this season - when Liverpool hammered Spurs at White Hart Lane.

His latest scan will determine if he will be out for little while longer or until the New Year, but in the broader interests of the club it has now reached the point where - even when he is fit - Liverpool must consider his availability a bonus and prepare for the next setback. It was the player himself who said it could be in his DNA.

When Suarez was sold, Sturridge was in prime position to be Liverpool and England's leading man. Call it circumstances or pure misfortune, but it is not happening for him and clubs of ambition can not afford to wait. Liverpool must do what it takes in January to do what they failed to in August - identify and sign a striker who fits Rodgers style, with a proven track record for scoring goals at the highest level.

If they fail to do so, they might as well settle down and re-adjust to life in mid-table.
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Postby Octsky » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:24 am

as rogers's lfc job hangs in the balance, daniel is his only hope between now to jan, of transfer window open.
rushing daniel back may not be to the interest of lfc but may be an interest to rogers.
so there is a moral hazard here.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:29 am

Kash_Mountain » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:29 am wrote:
Reg » Nov 19th, '14, 07:35 wrote:
maguskwt » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:30 pm wrote:Let's hope it's a blessing in disguise and bring someone in this Jan window...



Unfortunately, there is no money (FFP etc).  The Club have to sell first to acquire money, then buy. But who is going to pay top money for the players BR may want to sell like Johnson, Enrique et al?  As Ballotelli is also injured, it's Lambert, Borini and some from the academy. If he fails to give  anyone from the academy a chance now, then he never will.

Well that is not true. In fact prior to the Suarez sale it was widely reported we had £60M-£70M to spend.

FFPR dictates the club must break even. Our revenue streams and pursuits of sponsorships continues to bring in extra money. Every club is now maximising the amount of revenue the club as a whole generates.

Consider the Suarez deal topped up the transfer kitty already, I would not be surprised if there's 20-30M available in Jan.
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Postby kazza » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:39 am

red till i die!! » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:55 pm wrote:Id seriously doubt remy has a Drug problem kazza  :D 
What ever our reasons where for not signing him Chelsea didn't have the same reservations and thats what has me miffed about the whole situation. He had to of passed a Drug test at their medical and the hole in the heart hasn't affected his career so far and not deemed a problem for them.
Its more likely borini refusing to leave caused the club to withdraw from the deal.

If we did not sign him due to Borini I would seriously question the integrity of the club and how it's run. Aside from the embarrassment it causes it is not fair on Remy. I hope that was the reason.
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Postby only me » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:32 am

Stu the Red » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:05 pm wrote:
only me » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:04 pm wrote:I think it's evident at this stage we need to write Danny off and look for 2 new strikers.
He has a chronic condition and it's just ridiculous to keep waiting for his return. BR was a fool for not considering this scenario.

Physio guys can fck off as well with the scouting team.


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