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Postby Owzat » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:30 pm

It would be massively stupid to sack Rafa now, I wouldn't rule out him resigning but we are two wins from the CL last sixteen, in the Carling Cup QF and unbeaten in the league.

Surely even G & H wouldn't be stupid enough to sack a manager in those circumstances, even if we lose to Porto? The fans would turn on them, they need to sack him when we are in dire straits (Xmas?)

While Rafa should maybe keep his comments in house, he clearly isn't getting anywhere with the owners and you can bet fans will blame him if we don't sign anyone in January so maybe having it out publically is his way of making sure he isn't blamed while hoping to get what he wants
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Postby lakes10 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:35 pm

Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:sky bet

Benitez R 3/1  to go

Are you a bookie Lakes?

Heres my take on it anyway.

Since Rafa's 'Islamic Beard' growth this season obviously points to some sort of Benitez involvment in 9/11.

So George Bush has told them to get him out of power.

come to think of it wherte was Rafa on 9/11


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Postby redtrader74 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:46 pm

If he goes then i think it will be disasterous for the Club, because i think we are very close, fcking close to having a Championship winning side,  whoever comes in will want his own players and it doesn't seem as though the Yanks pockets are as deep as some thought. Lets get this right, we spent, NET (that means after recouping money from sales, for idiots! Rafa himself said that sales accounted for £26m this Summer) not much more than the previous year. So G&H have hardly given a blank cheque, i would consider it a decent budget, on a similar level to Spurs, West Ham etc. 

I wish he had not brought all this public, and if he had, then G&H could have decided to shut up instead, at least they would have a chance to reconcile without the media putting pressure on the situation. I just hope that Rafa picks the phone up to speak to them, or gets on a flight to the states for a day has a few drinks with them and sorts all this out. My fear is that as they don't have a long relationship, and really don't know each other, that misconceptions and miscontrued statements will result in Rafa leaving.
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:48 pm

Seems very unlikely they will sack him, particularly before such a big game. Is very possible that he might walk though  :(

Just hope the fans get the chance to show him and Hicks/Gillett how they feel on Wednesday night. It should be a Rafa tribute night. Not that it will necessarily make any difference, i remember Ranieri getting a very emotional and supportive send-off from the Chelsea fans just before Maureen came in.
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Postby Anfield rapper » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:50 pm

Scottbot wrote:Seems very unlikely they will sack him, particularly before such a big game. Is very possible that he might walk though  :(

Just hope the fans get the chance to show him and Hicks/Gillett how they feel on Wednesday night. It should be a Rafa tribute night. Not that it will necessarily make any difference, i remember Ranieri getting a very emotional and supportive send-off from the Chelsea fans just before Maureen came in.

Can't see him walking. He will lose a hell of alot of money if he does and at the end of the day this is a job.
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:53 pm

Not sure if this one has been pasted up? It certainly paints a better picture.


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Nov 26 2007 EXCLUSIVE by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo

RAFA BENITEZ is ready to hold out an olive branch to Liverpool's owners - but his gesture of reconciliation may have come too late to save his job.

Though sources close to Tom Hicks and George Gillett insist no decision has been made to sack Benitez, the Americans have refused to deny speculation it is only a matter of time before the manager is forced out.

Despite the pressure, Benitez is still planning for the future and remains hopeful of landing the league title he knows Liverpool and the fans crave.

A source close to Benitez said: “Rafa loves it at Liverpool. He loves the people of the city, he loves the fans and he loves the club. All he wants is what’s best for the fans - he gets frustrated when he feels he’s not able to do that.

“But he is happy with Tom and George owning the club and he has enjoyed working with them since he came and he has no problem working with Rick (Parry) – all he wants is to be able to continue the job that he’s started so he can continue improving the squad in a bid to deliver the title he knows Tom, George and Rick want just as badly as he does.

“The manager has got a few transfers that he wants to get done, one in January and two Bosmans in the summer but it looks like he is going to miss out on the first one now.

“That frustrated him because the first one was a centre half, a position he feels we really need back-up in. The frustration stems from the fact that communication has been so difficult with everyone being so far apart and in different time zones. But the fans should be reassured Rafa has no plans of walking away. He loves it here and his family are settled on Merseyside.

“He always describes his children as ‘Scousers’ and that makes him really proud. And the fact that the fans have backed him so much only makes him want success even more for them. Even when he guided Valencia to their first Spanish league title in 31 years their fans did not sing his name but the Liverpool fans sing it every single game.

“Rafa only wants to work for Liverpool. It wasn’t that long ago that Rafa was thanking Tom, George and Rick for the work that they had done to bring Fernando Torres to Liverpool. He is still grateful for that and hopes that there has been no lasting damage done.”

“He is hoping this situation can be resolved.In a statementHicks and Gillett said: “Despite speculation in Sunday’s newspapers, there is nothing new to say. We had a good win yesterday and we have got some very important games coming up. “Both of us, together with chief executive Rick Parry, plan to meet with Rafa when we come over mid-December to make decisions on the team’s requirements at that time.”
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:54 pm

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Scottbot wrote:Seems very unlikely they will sack him, particularly before such a big game. Is very possible that he might walk though  :(

Just hope the fans get the chance to show him and Hicks/Gillett how they feel on Wednesday night. It should be a Rafa tribute night. Not that it will necessarily make any difference, i remember Ranieri getting a very emotional and supportive send-off from the Chelsea fans just before Maureen came in.

Can't see him walking. He will lose a hell of alot of money if he does and at the end of the day this is a job.

Am sure he could force some sort of financial settlement if he indicated he wanted to go and it turns out Hicks/Gillette have been thinking the very same thing.
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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:00 pm

Why the BH would G&H sack Rafa, they dont have anyone to replace him with and there´s no way in a million years that either David Moores or Parry (...... yeah.... dont forget Moorsie´s still at Anfield guys) would let G&H get headstrong and fire the gaffa.

In Moores I trust, just as I did before he sold the club and during its sale. Rafa is having a tiff and things will settle down again after.
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Postby Red @ Heart » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:01 pm

doesnt he look tired and fed up, i almost feel sorry for him :(

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Postby lio » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:08 pm

zarababe wrote:... Where is RICK PARRY in all this ????

1. Yes, where's Parry?
2. Was there a emergency Board meeting/tele conf, etc?
3. Why no LFC players saying something?

In (3) oh yes, Reina just out at .tv to say:
PEPE: LET'S SEE THE REAL LIVERPOOL

... see lfc.tv

And guess what those media f*kers twisted the headline with the same content?

Reina convinced Liverpool can progress in Champions League an keep boss Benitez in a job
... DM


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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:10 pm

I wish someone would pay me bucketloads of money for being tired and fed up. :laugh:
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Postby redtrader74 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:11 pm

Reg wrote:Why the BH would G&H sack Rafa, they dont have anyone to replace him with and there´s no way in a million years that either David Moores or Parry (...... yeah.... dont forget Moorsie´s still at Anfield guys) would let G&H get headstrong and fire the gaffa.

In Moores I trust, just as I did before he sold the club and during its sale. Rafa is having a tiff and things will settle down again after.

Well i hope you are right, and both of them should also be mediating the whole thing, firstly telling Rafa to keep his opinions private, he should know by now that the press will feed on any chinks. If he'd been quiet all the talk of sackings would have been confined to Fat Sam.
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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:16 pm

Edited.
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Postby redtrader74 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:17 pm

Reg wrote:Edited !

:D Fat Sam? more like Boycey now. :laugh:
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Postby bunglemark2 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:20 pm

Interesting article on Teamtalk.com about Rafa desperately trying to save his job....
Methinks those people are being a little too mischievous.....
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