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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Klopp's agent couldn't do any more to let it be known that he would be up for coming here.
He said Klopp would deffo cut short his sabbatical from the game to manage in England, he even said that in Jurgen's opinion there are some great clubs outside of the top 4 who are much bigger than some of the 'so called' big clubs in the top 4, he also said Jurgen doesn't like to get involved in transfers or players contracts etc, he is used to the German model where he obviously has some input to who comes in but mostly he just coaches the players.
He said Jurgen is used to managing teams that don't have the resources of their main rivals and that is not a problem to him, in fact he'd prefer that type of job.
If he doesn't get the job it's not for the lack of trying.

[johnbarnes]

Was speaking to some mates earlier that live close to Anfield,  they said that there is strong news circulating around the ground that no matter the result on Sunday, BR will be gone next week! Has anybody  else heard this?  Frank De Boer anyone......saw the comments he made today!

Victory in the derby match will possibly see us in the top 4.
I can't see FSG replacing BR if thats the case.

Don't be too surprised if they do... There is never a good time to change management.
(E.G Houllier was told to walk after securing 4th place and having got us to a CL 1/4 Final. The rest is history.)
Our results aren't too bad at the moment and neither is our position in all competitions. But is that because BR has rejuvenated the team or is it that the team is playing for their own professional pride?
I believe it to be the latter.

[RedAnt]

I would favour Ancelotti or Rafa too... for the simple reason either would definately sort our defence out. To see a Liverpool team so weak and easy to score against is cracking me up , and has been like this for too long. I dont know much about Klopp , but i do know when he lost his best two players they sunk like a stone. ( sounds familiar )   I remember seeing him going nuts in one game and cantona kicking advertising boards etc  Im not too sure his temperament would hold in the premiership especially with these players 

You make good points but I don't agree with the temprement part. Kicking some boards ain't great but it's not terrible. Maureen gets away with all sorts because love him or hate him he's good for the PL (in some eyes). BR is a robot and maybe we need someone prepared to kick an advertising board or Joe Allen.

[johnbarnes]

I would favour Ancelotti or Rafa too... for the simple reason either would definately sort our defence out. To see a Liverpool team so weak and easy to score against is cracking me up , and has been like this for too long. I dont know much about Klopp , but i do know when he lost his best two players they sunk like a stone. ( sounds familiar )   I remember seeing him going nuts in one game and cantona kicking advertising boards etc  Im not too sure his temperament would hold in the premiership especially with these players 

You make good points but I don't agree with the temprement part. Kicking some boards ain't great but it's not terrible. Maureen gets away with all sorts because love him or hate him he's good for the PL (in some eyes). BR is a robot and maybe we need someone prepared to kick an advertising board or Joe Allen.

I'd pay to see that!

[maguskwt]

Brendan Rodgers is improving as a manager, but is it enough for Liverpool?

http://www.espnfcasia.com/blog/espn-fc- ... -liverpool

They say the form book goes out of the window for the Merseyside derby. Right now, that's just about the only thing in Brendan Rodgers' favour. Liverpool are in bad shape and patience is wearing thin. Thursday's Europa League draw with FC Sion, a distinctly mediocre Swiss outfit whose players were pilloried by their own chairman last week, was hardly ideal preparation for what is never less than a crucial clash.

You can always tell when a public figure is doomed. There is a scale of popularity upon which they all slide and, right now, Rodgers is hurtling down to the sharp end. Here, everything is your fault, everything you do is wrong and everything you say is stupid. Lauded by some as the second coming of Bill Shankly when he nearly won the title in 2014, Rodgers is now routinely ridiculed by his own supporters.

Amid the tumult and poor results, Rodgers asserts that he is "the same guy who nearly won us the league, but better." The comment brought widespread guffaws, which is a shame because it was probably true. He is certainly more experienced, especially if you favour Oscar Wilde's view that "experience is simply the name we give to our mistakes." And given Rodgers' eternal optimism, it's clear that he subscribes to Winston Churchill's view that "success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

But proof that he's learned something since he arrived at Anfield comes in his noticeable reduction of media appearances. Recall with a shudder, if you will, his performance in the glossily anodyne documentary "Being Liverpool." The over-earnest soundbites, the picture of himself on the wall, the magnificent claim that he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but a silver shovel. It was clear even then that Rodgers would make as many problems for himself as anyone else would make for him. But now the man who loved to talk has gone shy.

And who couldn't improve as a manager by going through what Rodgers has been through? The handling of big egos, a resounding success in the case of Luis Suarez, arguably less so in the case of Steven Gerrard, given the veiled resentment expressed by the player since his departure. The ability to overhaul tactics midway through a season. The compromises made over transfer policy and the mistakes made along the way. There have been highs and there have been lows, and the latter tend to be more instructive.

If Rodgers was to take over Liverpool now, with everything he has learned, you would imagine he'd be better placed to succeed. He'd keep a lower profile. He'd ruffle fewer feathers. He'd know what he could ask of his players and what he could not. But that's irrelevant now. What is relevant is that his comment was ripped apart with such glee. That's when you know that public opinion has swung too far for hope of recovery. And there's little hope of redemption on the pitch.

There are very few indications that Liverpool are about to improve, and there are clear weaknesses wherever you look. Simon Mignolet has never convinced, no amount of tinkering with the defence has kept the goals out, there's no width in the midfield and they've only scored more than one goal in a game on a single occasion this season. The club has wasted tens of millions of pounds in the transfer market, the squad lacks balance, the tactics aren't working and they face the very real prospect of humiliation against Everton this weekend. Not all of this is Rodgers' fault, but he cannot argue that the majority of it falls under his jurisdiction.

You never know. It might all click at Liverpool. It could be that the unfamiliarity of the new players is the root cause of this season's travails. It may yet to come to pass that the recent return of Daniel Sturridge will make the difference to a team crying out for a regular goal scorer. However, it seems that the more likely scenario is that Rodgers, lacking allies and support, will depart the club before Christmas.

We know that he is a good coach, that he is enthusiastic, that he is open-minded and that he will reappear somewhere else before long, possibly following the lead of David Moyes and re-emerging overseas. You cannot argue that he won't have learned something along the way. Rodgers is a better manager than he was in 2014. Whether he'll get to prove it at Liverpool is another matter entirely.

[The_Rock]

Was speaking to some mates earlier that live close to Anfield,  they said that there is strong news circulating around the ground that no matter the result on Sunday, BR will be gone next week! Has anybody  else heard this?  Frank De Boer anyone......saw the comments he made today!

Someone...pls make it happen. This nightmare has gone on .....for too long.

[johnbarnes]

Brendan Rodgers is improving as a manager, but is it enough for Liverpool?

http://www.espnfcasia.com/blog/espn-fc- ... -liverpool

They say the form book goes out of the window for the Merseyside derby. Right now, that's just about the only thing in Brendan Rodgers' favour. Liverpool are in bad shape and patience is wearing thin. Thursday's Europa League draw with FC Sion, a distinctly mediocre Swiss outfit whose players were pilloried by their own chairman last week, was hardly ideal preparation for what is never less than a crucial clash.

You can always tell when a public figure is doomed. There is a scale of popularity upon which they all slide and, right now, Rodgers is hurtling down to the sharp end. Here, everything is your fault, everything you do is wrong and everything you say is stupid. Lauded by some as the second coming of Bill Shankly when he nearly won the title in 2014, Rodgers is now routinely ridiculed by his own supporters.

Amid the tumult and poor results, Rodgers asserts that he is "the same guy who nearly won us the league, but better." The comment brought widespread guffaws, which is a shame because it was probably true. He is certainly more experienced, especially if you favour Oscar Wilde's view that "experience is simply the name we give to our mistakes." And given Rodgers' eternal optimism, it's clear that he subscribes to Winston Churchill's view that "success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

But proof that he's learned something since he arrived at Anfield comes in his noticeable reduction of media appearances. Recall with a shudder, if you will, his performance in the glossily anodyne documentary "Being Liverpool." The over-earnest soundbites, the picture of himself on the wall, the magnificent claim that he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but a silver shovel. It was clear even then that Rodgers would make as many problems for himself as anyone else would make for him. But now the man who loved to talk has gone shy.

And who couldn't improve as a manager by going through what Rodgers has been through? The handling of big egos, a resounding success in the case of Luis Suarez, arguably less so in the case of Steven Gerrard, given the veiled resentment expressed by the player since his departure. The ability to overhaul tactics midway through a season. The compromises made over transfer policy and the mistakes made along the way. There have been highs and there have been lows, and the latter tend to be more instructive.

If Rodgers was to take over Liverpool now, with everything he has learned, you would imagine he'd be better placed to succeed. He'd keep a lower profile. He'd ruffle fewer feathers. He'd know what he could ask of his players and what he could not. But that's irrelevant now. What is relevant is that his comment was ripped apart with such glee. That's when you know that public opinion has swung too far for hope of recovery. And there's little hope of redemption on the pitch.

There are very few indications that Liverpool are about to improve, and there are clear weaknesses wherever you look. Simon Mignolet has never convinced, no amount of tinkering with the defence has kept the goals out, there's no width in the midfield and they've only scored more than one goal in a game on a single occasion this season. The club has wasted tens of millions of pounds in the transfer market, the squad lacks balance, the tactics aren't working and they face the very real prospect of humiliation against Everton this weekend. Not all of this is Rodgers' fault, but he cannot argue that the majority of it falls under his jurisdiction.

You never know. It might all click at Liverpool. It could be that the unfamiliarity of the new players is the root cause of this season's travails. It may yet to come to pass that the recent return of Daniel Sturridge will make the difference to a team crying out for a regular goal scorer. However, it seems that the more likely scenario is that Rodgers, lacking allies and support, will depart the club before Christmas.

We know that he is a good coach, that he is enthusiastic, that he is open-minded and that he will reappear somewhere else before long, possibly following the lead of David Moyes and re-emerging overseas. You cannot argue that he won't have learned something along the way. Rodgers is a better manager than he was in 2014. Whether he'll get to prove it at Liverpool is another matter entirely.

We all knew that BR would come out of this a better manager and possibly a better man to the detriment of LFC and to the benefit of another club.

[Thommo's perm]

The writing is on the wall. I said he had until Christmas at the beginning of the season. It may well be sooner?

[C-R]

It may well be sooner?

fingers crossed 

[maguskwt]

If we win against Everton, BR would have done not too bad in terms of the league... It would actually be considered a good start considering the fixtures...

[aCe']

He'll probably be here until the end of the season unless we have a ridiculous run of bad results before then. Our next 6 league games are : eve (away), tot (away), SOT (home), che (away), CPL (home), mci (away)

Would be interesting to know what the owners would regard as an acceptable tally from these games.

[The_Rock]

We have to get Klopp before Chelsea get him...... The Chelsea fans have turned against Maureen (and he won them the league last season).  The players are not playing for him (team news getting leaked out.....their captain not happing being dropped).  Sounds familiar ?

And you know what......whatever happened to us last season and now is happening to Chelsea. But apparently they are moving fast to steady the ship

FSG gotta make a move now..... Stop being a bunch of pu$$ies and act now. GET RID OF THAT CHARLATAN (I mean Rodgers).

[The_Rock]

In the post-match interview....that idiot just sort of iterated that since we are 4 points infront of chel$hit.....everything is alright.

F**king small time manager......he deserves to be in the championship.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I'd love to see Klopp here but if we are going to get a foreign version of Brendan like De Boer or Mazzarri I'd rather just stick with Rodgers, it's absolutely pointless getting rid of one mid table manager just to replace him with another.
If the club do decide it's time for a change I hope they show some ambition for once.

[C-R]

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