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[liverpoolrich]

Is this Newcastle-Newkit or Manchester United-Newkit?

no silly its liverpoolfc-newkit

[woof woof !]

I am however expressing the opinion that we have missed out on resigning a great striker and that ultimately Rafa bears the responsibility for that.

WHAT! 

How is this Rafael's fault?

Ok so yeah Rafa is to blame that we bloody sold him a year ago to Madrid for a BARGAIN 12 Million EUROS??!!

And then Owen is available again and you expect Rafa to guarantee Owen 1st tream football and pay over the odds to get him back? Sorry, but that would be stupid....

The right decision has been made under the circumstances.

I would have LOVED to have see Owen back, I have NO grudges against him whtsoever....

I trust Rafa 100%, and so should the rest of us, let's move on ok, this saga is finally over.

Cheers!  [/quote]

More knee jerk . Did I mention the sale of Owen last year ?   
Do I in anyway shape or form blame Rafa for Owens departure ?   No .

Forget the history , in fact try and concentrate on today . We have missed out on signing a striker who will score more goals than any of our current strike force . Surely our manager has to bear some responsibilty for that failure ? Christ ! Souness managed to convince him to sign for the Loony Toons even though Owen was publicly begging for the chance to return to Anfield.
You have to say this was down to our managers reluctance to REALLY go after him . Thats not BLAMING Rafa , that's highlighting the fact that ulitimately the wisdom of that decision will be Rafa's responsibility .

[policy]

We should make Lakes the manager.

[lakes10]

We should make Lakes the manager.

yep i would sell most of our players and fill it with all uk players, i would spend tons, j terry, Owen, A. cole, frank lampard...no rooney, good player but he stinks as a person.

but i would keep Djibril Cisse

[A.B.]

yep i would sell most of our players and fill it with all uk players, i would spend tons, j terry, Owen, A. cole, frank lampard...no rooney, good player but he stinks as a person.

but i would keep Djibril Cisse

And where would you find the money to buy Owen,Terry,Cole and Frank Lampard?

Oh wait you can do that on Football Manager!

[drummerphil]

so what your saying then,you would turn us into Leeds United

[lakes10]

yep i would sell most of our players and fill it with all uk players, i would spend tons, j terry, Owen, A. cole, frank lampard...no rooney, good player but he stinks as a person.

but i would keep Djibril Cisse

And where would you find the money to buy Owen,Terry,Cole and Frank Lampard?

Oh wait you can do that on Football Manager!

mate i have not played Football Manager since 1985 on the specy 48k.
where would i get the money , i would use the money from not having a new ground, a pay tv station

[dosserboy]

Forget the history , in fact try and concentrate on today . We have missed out on signing a striker who will score more goals than any of our current strike force . Surely our manager has to bear some responsibilty for that failure ? Christ ! Souness managed to convince him to sign for the Loony Toons even though Owen was publicly begging for the chance to return to Anfield.
You have to say this was down to our managers reluctance to REALLY go after him . Thats not BLAMING Rafa , that's highlighting the fact that ulitimately the wisdom of that decision will be Rafa's responsibility .

How much money do you think we have in the kitty? Rafa to blame? you're a'ving a laugh!! If he had Chelski's money I think Owen would be a Liverpool player now!!
RAFA HAS NO MONEY!!! You can not blame him for that!!

[woof woof !]

Christ ,and here's me trying to have a reasonable discussion . After two years in the forum you'd think i would have learned by now .

[lakes10]

so what your saying then,you would turn us into Leeds United

no but its nice to see us have some uk players in the team. in truth we are not that bad for that.

[A.B.]

mate i have not played Football Manager since 1985 on the specy 48k.
where would i get the money , i would use the money from not having a new ground, a pay tv station

So you would convince Chelsea to sell two of their best players? Thanks for the laugh lakes.

[drummerphil]

lol:laugh:

[lakes10]

Forget the history , in fact try and concentrate on today . We have missed out on signing a striker who will score more goals than any of our current strike force . Surely our manager has to bear some responsibilty for that failure ? Christ ! Souness managed to convince him to sign for the Loony Toons even though Owen was publicly begging for the chance to return to Anfield.
You have to say this was down to our managers reluctance to REALLY go after him . Thats not BLAMING Rafa , that's highlighting the fact that ulitimately the wisdom of that decision will be Rafa's responsibility .

How much money do you think we have in the kitty? Rafa to blame? you're a'ving a laugh!! If he had Chelski's money I think Owen would be a Liverpool player now!!
RAFA HAS NO MONEY!!! You can not blame him for that!!

get your facts right mate , we put up the same as the toons, we did not get owen due to RB telling him that he would not start most on the games and he was not going to be first choice.

[policy]

Rafa is setting/reinforcing a great precedent in not buying Owen. After the CL final, all of the clubs were probably hoping that Rafa would drop some beaucoup bucks to sign their players. But Rafa is being completely unpredictable and is showing that he is as wily than the "special" one. Any other manager in our situation would try to break the bank to get Owen. But Rafa is not like any other manager. The next time the transfer window opens, everyone and I mean EVERYONE will know that they can't play with Liverpool FC in the transfer scene.

And Rafa is the best manager for Liverpool. I want any of you naysayers to suggest 1 likely and viable replacement for him. There is no point in criticising him if he has been extremely successful and if there are no alternatives.

I wanted Owen to come for his goals despite him being a Benedict Arnold (turncoat). But simply on principle, Rafa was not willing to get raped twice by Real Madrid. JUST ON PRINCIPLE.

And I can't say that Rafa is going to be more successful this year because the CL is a hard act to follow, but surely great things will come. In terms of pure reputation and prowess in the European stage, Mourinho could only wish to do as well with what Rafa had last year.

[lakes10]

mate i have not played Football Manager since 1985 on the specy 48k.
where would i get the money , i would use the money from not having a new ground, a pay tv station

So you would convince Chelsea to sell two of their best players? Thanks for the laugh lakes.

we might not have too, put it this way, mr russian now has 2 ex sas and minders, something tells me he has a price on his head and he knows it.if and i hope not, we might get them gat a cut price when they go bust