Liverpool FC Forum

[tubby]

YEah it's a strange one, we are playing a better brand of football but due to lack of quality in the squad we are not picking up points where we should be. I lay all the blame at the owners feet. They chose not to spend any decent money this summer and asked for the wage bill to be trimmed. Well I wonder what their plan will be should we end up finishing up in the bottom half.

[Boxscarf]

YEah it's a strange one, we are playing a better brand of football but due to lack of quality in the squad we are not picking up points where we should be. I lay all the blame at the owners feet. They chose not to spend any decent money this summer and asked for the wage bill to be trimmed. Well I wonder what their plan will be should we end up finishing up in the bottom half.

No doubt they'll sack the manager, bring someone else in, ask them to trim the wage bill and expenditure and repeat cycle again.

[lakes10]

I don't get why there is such an overreaction? Stoke aren't an easy team to beat and Chelsea were fortunate to beat them a few weeks ago. Yes, we were unfortunate, but I am confident that we can pick up the pace. 4 points from our last 2 games is not something to scoff at imo. We'll be alright, we always are.

its not just one game we are talikng about mate, we are looking at all the games we have had, we look a much better team than the results show but that dont put points on the board, it might be a case that we need to change the way we play a bit to start to turn our performances into points.

[Thommo's perm]

the thing is being in the bottom 3 at the end of the year could happen. thats going to make buying players very hard in the next window and the team will have to work wonders from there not to be in the same spot come the end of the season.

If we were sh'it I might agree. But were not so I dont.
We dont need a miracle yet, we need the rub of the green and for players to have belief and composure.
The last thing we need is for supporters to get o the managers and the players back
Keep calm and carry on

i agree with you in total but at what point do you thing we should start to worry, in my view its if we are near the bottom lot at xmas. for me we should be in 10th and a good 8 point cap or more  from them at the bottom?

edir: what should add is that some of our play is the best i have seen in the prem this year.

I think we should start to worry when we are getting turned over by teams and unable to do anything about it
We are far from that as yet and I personally dont think it will come to that, but you never know? If the supporters start losing patience and getting agitated and abusive to the team, then we could easily see that happening. If the crowd turns against Rodgers I can honestly see the players folding, which will have a devastating effect on our performances. Its one thing criticising, its quite another getting on the managers and players backs. We have as big a part to play as them because, whether people agree or not, we are all in this together. This is a make or break season and possibly the most important in our history

[Boxscarf]

its not just one game we are talikng about mate, we are looking at all the games we have had, we look a much better team than the results show but that dont put points on the board, it might be a case that we need to change the way we play a bit to start to turn our performances into points.

We've faced three of the top four in our opening 7 matches. We were unlucky not to beat both Manchester clubs. We have played solid teams in Sunderland and Stoke and got a point in both matches. We've got 4 points from a possible 6 in our last two games. If we keep that up and start keeping clean sheets in matches, we'll start climbing up the table. I'm as frustrated as anybody about our sluggish start to the season, but we have to get some perspective here. We're in the doldrums at the moment, but I have seen enough from this squad and the manager to believe that we are heading in the right direction. It's far too early to be hitting the panic button, we're 7 games into the league season.

[lakes10]

I think Rodgers has it in him to be one of our great managers, but he might just be at the club at the wrong time in our history. theres so much work to do and in truth theres not much time. by that i mean , say it takes us two more years to get to where the top 4 clubs are not now.....they would still have moved on in them two years, we could always be a chasing club........chasing our own history in truth.

[Thommo's perm]

its not just one game we are talikng about mate, we are looking at all the games we have had, we look a much better team than the results show but that dont put points on the board, it might be a case that we need to change the way we play a bit to start to turn our performances into points.

We've faced three of the top four in our opening 7 matches. We were unlucky not to beat both Manchester clubs. We have played solid teams in Sunderland and Stoke and got a point in both matches. We've got 4 points from a possible 6 in our last two games. If we keep that up and start keeping clean sheets in matches, we'll start climbing up the table. I'm as frustrated as anybody about our sluggish start to the season, but we have to get some perspective here. We're in the doldrums at the moment, but I have seen enough from this squad and the manager to believe that we are heading in the right direction. It's far too early to be hitting the panic button, we're 7 games into the league season.

If we had this form after playing these teams over christmas we would probably be a lot happier than we are now
The timing only adds to the fear, especially when others, like the bitters have got off to a flyer.
It will click, Im sure of that

[Boxscarf]

If we had this form after playing these teams over christmas we would probably be a lot happier than we are now
The timing only adds to the fear, especially when others, like the bitters have got off to a flyer.
It will click, Im sure of that

I'm happy with things as they are now in terms of performance. The points tally is disappointing, but there's still 31 matches left to play in the league. Everton have gotten off to a flyer, but it will take some doing and I feel they were fortunate to get a point at Wigan. Wigan who have been one of the worst teams in the league this season having their worst start to a Premier League campaign nearly beat them. So who knows what will happen at the end of the season? We finished 8th last season, so if we finish 7th or 6th this season then that's progression and I will be satisfied with that.

People like Lakes and Hustler are jumping the gun at the moment.

[Roger Red Hat]

I think Rodgers has it in him to be one of our great managers, but he might just be at the club at the wrong time in our history. theres so much work to do and in truth theres not much time. by that i mean , say it takes us two more years to get to where the top 4 clubs are not now.....they would still have moved on in them two years, we could always be a chasing club........chasing our own history in truth.

I reckon he's the perfect manager at the perfect time. we needed a fresh start and he's brought it. ok results have been short of fabulous but it's a work in progress. who else would've have such a drastic change on the playing style? and please don't anyone embarrass themselves by saying Rafa. Rafa is a genius and a great manager but the football we play now is better than he could ever musta up. once the results start to come in we'll be flying but it's going to take time.

[lakes10]

If we had this form after playing these teams over christmas we would probably be a lot happier than we are now
The timing only adds to the fear, especially when others, like the bitters have got off to a flyer.
It will click, Im sure of that

I'm happy with things as they are now in terms of performance. The points tally is disappointing, but there's still 31 matches left to play in the league. Everton have gotten off to a flyer, but it will take some doing and I feel they were fortunate to get a point at Wigan. Wigan who have been one of the worst teams in the league this season having their worst start to a Premier League campaign nearly beat them. So who knows what will happen at the end of the season? We finished 8th last season, so if we finish 7th or 6th this season then that's progression and I will be satisfied with that.

People like Lakes and Hustler are jumping the gun at the moment.

not jumping the gun mate, i am just saying if the results dont come them he has got to change the way we play and how long do you let it go untill ypu change it.

[7_Kewell]

you've got to give him this season, before judging his ability or style.  Personally, i think we'll turn the corner around December and make a charge for a top 6 finish. OK, it's not a title challenge, but it's a rebuild and we have to be patient.

[Boxscarf]

not jumping the gun mate, i am just saying if the results dont come them he has got to change the way we play and how long do you let it go untill ypu change it.

I agree, but I remember when we lost 2-0 to Stoke last season. Stoke are not an easy team to beat, Chelsea's millionaire footballers struggled against them. We've got 4 points from a possible 6 in the last two matches. Who is to say that won't become 7 from 9, and then 10 from 12? Patience is required here.

[The Hustler]

I am not so sure.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

not jumping the gun mate, i am just saying if the results dont come them he has got to change the way we play and how long do you let it go untill ypu change it.

I agree, but I remember when we lost 2-0 to Stoke last season. Stoke are not an easy team to beat, Chelsea's millionaire footballers struggled against them. We've got 4 points from a possible 6 in the last two matches. Who is to say that won't become 7 from 9, and then 10 from 12? Patience is required here.

we drew with stoke at home in the league last season 0-0 and lost 1-0 away (we battered them but they got a controversial pen when walters tangled with carragher, the pen was the only shot on goal they had all game)
we beat them 2-1 away in the league cup and we also beat them 2-1 at anfield in the F.A cup.
the 0-0 at anfield in the league was during suarez`s ban, kenny played with kuyt as the lone striker and 3 at the back.

[The Hustler]

Brendan, get your act together