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[Kash_Mountain]

When it comes to arriving at the conclusion  a manager has had his day, I'm usually one of the last to admit defeat ,call it romanticism ,call it sentimentality ,call it
a rigid belief in a Liverpool fans way of going about their business.....So its with a heavy heart  that  I will openly admit I have nothing left in the tank to proffer in the
man's defence,as Tuesday's farce was inexcusable for a man who has been tasked to retrieve our collective hopes and dreams.

A game so important to the collative inside Anfield was treated with utter contempt and sheer cowardice by Rodgers, and it was mirrored by the players he opted to field.
Never have I seen a first half performance with so many  disinterested players ,never have I seen a game of this significance so bereft of passion and heart,and it was
arguably the most torturous 90 minutes I have ever had to endure . If Rodgers intentions were to obliterate any shred of hope we had at once again dining at the big table
then he couldn't have proffered no greater pointer than that fucking team sheet..... Absolutely disgusted with the fella.

I disagree mate, yes the team sheet was negative and the first half abysmal but I thought the second half was probably the best half of football we've put together so far this season, especially considering we were down to 10 men for most of it. If we would have managed to score another goal that comeback would have went down in Anfield folklore so I don't know how you can describe the whole 90 minutes as torturous.
Managers these days don't seem to get the opportunity to put things right, as we both know Shankly went through some tough times himself at the end of the 60's, one particular season we were beaten at home by the likes of Everton and United (United beat us 4-1 at Anfield, imagine the reaction of these modern fans to that!), we were knocked out of Europe in November by the mighty Veroria Setubal and knocked out of the F.A cup by second division Watford in one of the most infamous results in our history.
Before anyone starts going on about money by the standards of the day Shankly spent big money around that time on flops like Tony Hateley, Alun Evans and even John Toshack (who scored 4 league goals in his first season) to try and get us back challenging again, it was only when Kevin Keegan arrived from Scunthorpe that everything seemed to click.
Good job Shankly wasn't around in this era, he would have been well hounded out before he had the chance to put together that team that eventually conquered English and European football under Bob.

Are you suggesting that the game, the times,  even the world hasn't changed in 50 years?  The game in those days have absolutely no relevance with what is going on in today's game (different time, different era).  Shankly came in because the Club was failing miserably, he had a plan, he had methods, he had a formula, he had tactics, he had the know-how and made it all work beautifully. BR on the other hand has none of this, not one tiny smidgen to take the Club forward. How you can even compareBR to Shankly is beyond the beyond!

Some quotes and the way our ‘esteemed’ Coach (he is  in no shape or form a manager) ‘thinks’ i.e. the blame game.

When LFC lose a game, it’s always, we played well and just needed that wee bit of luck, but alas we didn’t get it.  Oh BR, you create your own luck and off couse we always need luck playing against the teams way below us. Oh hang on, we LFC are nearly at the bottom, whose fault is that?



We cannot ‘win without Sturridge’ hmmm I’m going to take it out on Roy Hodgson/England. What happened to all the other strikers we have already, or the ones you should have gone in for and bought!

Balotelli is very much a great addition to Liverpool FC.  It turns out “he was the only option we had, and a huge risk"  I’m going to blame Balotelli for not fitting into my ‘philosophy’ style.  Hmmm, no player is able to fit his ‘philosophy’ style because he wasted mega millions on bringing players that don’t even suit that way of playing.

LFC lack  real quality in midfield. Ok, I’ll go to the candy store and buy some more CMs, however, I won’t play them because the ones we have are better, my children, my favourites.

I particularly like “I was manager of the year last season, now I'm favourite to get sacked". Well, why is that BR? Is it because you have no idea what you are doing, freezing players out, playing your favourites all the time when there are better options, buying players that don’t suit your ‘philosophy’…I could go on…..anyway I’m going to blame everyone else for that (the Owners, other Coaches, the players, yeah all of them, but not me, I’m clean!!


I’m absolutely happy to have brought in all these players to add to depth.  Turns out Suarez is irreplaceable. All these players for 1 departure.  Why go spend and waste millions upon millions when BR should have brought in just a few experienced/established players. I wonder whether he was thinking Swansea when he brought these players (i.e. think small)? Oh yes he did!  Oh, but hang on, LFC all of a sudden don’t have that depth any longer, I wonder why? Anyway, I will blame Depth for this because it’s not my methods or tactics or style of play etc


LFC cannot keep conceding the goals, although last season, it was just the same. We did get around this somewhat with our high tempo, high pressing game. Anyway I’m going to blame the defence for all this. I was advised to bring in a defensive Coach and much better GK Coach, but because I’m so arrogant, egotistical and stubborn I refused all help.  Yep, when LFC, BR the Coaches are so out of their remit and desperately needs help, BR refuses. What does that tell you about our ‘esteemed Coach’

LFC are no longer a free scoring team, maybe it’s because we have a 32 year old who is a slow and lone striker with no support.  We can start him, then take him of at half time because there is no one that can help or support him. Whose fault is that?

In the CL, SG states that “we deserved to go out”, due to a lack of firepower. But wait, we have other strikers, Borini, even Yetsil etc . They can't even make the bench.  Somehow Borini is good enough to lead the front line against RM. Wtf, whose to blame for not playing him now BR? Oh, I forgot, he isn’t one of your favourite love child.

You’ve invested heavily, in fact the Owners have more debt as a result.  You then don’t even play those you’ve brought to the Club . Any other organisation would ask, why do you think that you are not a replaceable member of staff?   Your credibility and respect as a Coach has been shot to pieces by you’re very actions.

[Boocity]

When it comes to arriving at the conclusion  a manager has had his day, I'm usually one of the last to admit defeat ,call it romanticism ,call it sentimentality ,call it
a rigid belief in a Liverpool fans way of going about their business.....So its with a heavy heart  that  I will openly admit I have nothing left in the tank to proffer in the
man's defence,as Tuesday's farce was inexcusable for a man who has been tasked to retrieve our collective hopes and dreams.

A game so important to the collative inside Anfield was treated with utter contempt and sheer cowardice by Rodgers, and it was mirrored by the players he opted to field.
Never have I seen a first half performance with so many  disinterested players ,never have I seen a game of this significance so bereft of passion and heart,and it was
arguably the most torturous 90 minutes I have ever had to endure . If Rodgers intentions were to obliterate any shred of hope we had at once again dining at the big table
then he couldn't have proffered no greater pointer than that fucking team sheet..... Absolutely disgusted with the fella.

I disagree mate, yes the team sheet was negative and the first half abysmal but I thought the second half was probably the best half of football we've put together so far this season, especially considering we were down to 10 men for most of it. If we would have managed to score another goal that comeback would have went down in Anfield folklore so I don't know how you can describe the whole 90 minutes as torturous.
Managers these days don't seem to get the opportunity to put things right, as we both know Shankly went through some tough times himself at the end of the 60's, one particular season we were beaten at home by the likes of Everton and United (United beat us 4-1 at Anfield, imagine the reaction of these modern fans to that!), we were knocked out of Europe in November by the mighty Veroria Setubal and knocked out of the F.A cup by second division Watford in one of the most infamous results in our history.
Before anyone starts going on about money by the standards of the day Shankly spent big money around that time on flops like Tony Hateley, Alun Evans and even John Toshack (who scored 4 league goals in his first season) to try and get us back challenging again, it was only when Kevin Keegan arrived from Scunthorpe that everything seemed to click.
Good job Shankly wasn't around in this era, he would have been well hounded out before he had the chance to put together that team that eventually conquered English and European football under Bob.

Yes it would have gone down in Anfield folklore but people would still have looked at the first half and original team selection and questioned his decisions. Also if he had selected a team to go out and win the match in the first place we would still be in the competition, he didn't, he bottled it at home against Basle, not RM or Barca, Basle and that is totally unacceptable. I don't know how you can compare BR to Shanks.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

BC - okay then let's compare him to Ferguson, In his first full season as United manager he finished second but then finished 11th and 13th in consecutive seasons, by that point the United fans had lost faith in him and wanted him out. To be fair to them he looked hopeless, he was wasting money on players like Neil Webb and Terry Phelan and they were on the wrong end of some bad results like 4-0 losses to us and Forest and infamously a 5-1 loss in the Manchester derby to an average City side.
Any manager can go through periods where they struggle, Ferguson was one of the greatest managers of all time but he couldn't do nothing right for 2 years.
If we sack Rodgers now we will look absolutely stupid. How is it going to look in the history books that we sacked a manager 4 months after he came closer than any other Liverpool manager in the last 25 years to winning the title?
People will look back and see how well we played when Suarez was banned, they will look at the 6-0 at Newcastle and the great start we made to last season with Sturridge leading the line, they will even look at our start to this season when we had Sturridge and see that we beat Southampton and Spurs and notice that our only loss was away at the champions after playing them off the park for 44 minutes.
It is going to look in the history books like Rodgers was sacked because Sturridge was injured, our fan base are going to look like the biggest bunch of spoilt whiners and moaners in history, and before anyone mentions wasted money I am telling you that most of those signings will turn out to be top players, yes it might take them a couple of years to reach their peak but that will make the fans look even worse.
Imagine Brendan adds insult to injury by dusting himself down and having a lot of success somewhere else? He is only 41 after all.

[parchpea]

Collymore reckons John Henry has tried to sack already but Ian Ayre and some of the old players talked him down.

If true he's on borrowed time now unless there is a dramatic improvement.

[C-R]

We are being linked with Diego Simeone in a a couple of places, this article is an interesting read... http://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/2 ... e-manager/

[jacdaniel]

BC - okay then let's compare him to Ferguson, In his first full season as United manager he finished second but then finished 11th and 13th in consecutive seasons, by that point the United fans had lost faith in him and wanted him out. To be fair to them he looked hopeless, he was wasting money on players like Neil Webb and Terry Phelan and they were on the wrong end of some bad results like 4-0 losses to us and Forest and infamously a 5-1 loss in the Manchester derby to an average City side.
Any manager can go through periods where they struggle, Ferguson was one of the greatest managers of all time but he couldn't do nothing right for 2 years.
If we sack Rodgers now we will look absolutely stupid. How is it going to look in the history books that we sacked a manager 4 months after he came closer than any other Liverpool manager in the last 25 years to winning the title?
People will look back and see how well we played when Suarez was banned, they will look at the 6-0 at Newcastle and the great start we made to last season with Sturridge leading the line, they will even look at our start to this season when we had Sturridge and see that we beat Southampton and Spurs and notice that our only loss was away at the champions after playing them off the park for 44 minutes.
It is going to look in the history books like Rodgers was sacked because Sturridge was injured, our fan base are going to look like the biggest bunch of spoilt whiners and moaners in history, and before anyone mentions wasted money I am telling you that most of those signings will turn out to be top players, yes it might take them a couple of years to reach their peak but that will make the fans look even worse.
Imagine Brendan adds insult to injury by dusting himself down and having a lot of success somewhere else? He is only 41 after all.

You are wasting your time mate.
Their minds appear to be made and they'll turn on the new guy as soon as we hit a rough patch. 

The short term thinking in this game is astonishing when you consider that all the great clubs have became great through long term plans.

[RedAnt]

When it comes to arriving at the conclusion  a manager has had his day, I'm usually one of the last to admit defeat ,call it romanticism ,call it sentimentality ,call it
a rigid belief in a Liverpool fans way of going about their business.....So its with a heavy heart  that  I will openly admit I have nothing left in the tank to proffer in the
man's defence,as Tuesday's farce was inexcusable for a man who has been tasked to retrieve our collective hopes and dreams.

A game so important to the collative inside Anfield was treated with utter contempt and sheer cowardice by Rodgers, and it was mirrored by the players he opted to field.
Never have I seen a first half performance with so many  disinterested players ,never have I seen a game of this significance so bereft of passion and heart,and it was
arguably the most torturous 90 minutes I have ever had to endure . If Rodgers intentions were to obliterate any shred of hope we had at once again dining at the big table
then he couldn't have proffered no greater pointer than that fucking team sheet..... Absolutely disgusted with the fella.

I disagree mate, yes the team sheet was negative and the first half abysmal but I thought the second half was probably the best half of football we've put together so far this season, especially considering we were down to 10 men for most of it. If we would have managed to score another goal that comeback would have went down in Anfield folklore so I don't know how you can describe the whole 90 minutes as torturous.
Managers these days don't seem to get the opportunity to put things right, as we both know Shankly went through some tough times himself at the end of the 60's, one particular season we were beaten at home by the likes of Everton and United (United beat us 4-1 at Anfield, imagine the reaction of these modern fans to that!), we were knocked out of Europe in November by the mighty Veroria Setubal and knocked out of the F.A cup by second division Watford in one of the most infamous results in our history.
Before anyone starts going on about money by the standards of the day Shankly spent big money around that time on flops like Tony Hateley, Alun Evans and even John Toshack (who scored 4 league goals in his first season) to try and get us back challenging again, it was only when Kevin Keegan arrived from Scunthorpe that everything seemed to click.
Good job Shankly wasn't around in this era, he would have been well hounded out before he had the chance to put together that team that eventually conquered English and European football under Bob.

So if we'd managed to beat the Swiss champs to eventually qualify from a group that also held the Bulgarian champs after struggling through the first five games it would have gone down in folklore? BR really has hypnotised you mate. It's hardly the same as Istanbul and proves just how low expectancies have dropped. And we didn't even win..

[Kash_Mountain]

When it comes to arriving at the conclusion  a manager has had his day, I'm usually one of the last to admit defeat ,call it romanticism ,call it sentimentality ,call it
a rigid belief in a Liverpool fans way of going about their business.....So its with a heavy heart  that  I will openly admit I have nothing left in the tank to proffer in the
man's defence,as Tuesday's farce was inexcusable for a man who has been tasked to retrieve our collective hopes and dreams.

A game so important to the collative inside Anfield was treated with utter contempt and sheer cowardice by Rodgers, and it was mirrored by the players he opted to field.
Never have I seen a first half performance with so many  disinterested players ,never have I seen a game of this significance so bereft of passion and heart,and it was
arguably the most torturous 90 minutes I have ever had to endure . If Rodgers intentions were to obliterate any shred of hope we had at once again dining at the big table
then he couldn't have proffered no greater pointer than that fucking team sheet..... Absolutely disgusted with the fella.

So if we'd managed to beat the Swiss champs to eventually qualify from a group that also held the Bulgarian champs after struggling through the first five games it would have gone down in folklore? BR really has hypnotised you mate. It's hardly the same as Istanbul and proves just how low expectancies have dropped. And we didn't even win..

RA, seems that some are very happy with failure. BR has hypnotised some fans!  Fans saying give him time, he'll turn it around!! How can he 'turn' it around when he bought players last summer that don't even fit into his 'philosophy' style, yet he continues the same way. He's had 3 seasons to impress his 'philosophy', how much longer does he and some fans want before they realise LFC may, as a result of his attitude, get dragged down into a relegation dogfight this season. LFC may go down because of BR.  If his 'philosophy'  hasn't worked in 3 seasons, it ain't going to work now. He is so arrogant, stubborn and egotistical, he refuses help that he so desperately needs because to accept help means an admission that he is wrong in every way etc, and he can't stand that.

At the end of the day,the players need a system or style of playing that actually works to their strengths. This is in no shape or form is happening at the moment, and BR will not change things. If he was able to change it, LFC would be playing 100% better

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

When it comes to arriving at the conclusion  a manager has had his day, I'm usually one of the last to admit defeat ,call it romanticism ,call it sentimentality ,call it
a rigid belief in a Liverpool fans way of going about their business.....So its with a heavy heart  that  I will openly admit I have nothing left in the tank to proffer in the
man's defence,as Tuesday's farce was inexcusable for a man who has been tasked to retrieve our collective hopes and dreams.

A game so important to the collative inside Anfield was treated with utter contempt and sheer cowardice by Rodgers, and it was mirrored by the players he opted to field.
Never have I seen a first half performance with so many  disinterested players ,never have I seen a game of this significance so bereft of passion and heart,and it was
arguably the most torturous 90 minutes I have ever had to endure . If Rodgers intentions were to obliterate any shred of hope we had at once again dining at the big table
then he couldn't have proffered no greater pointer than that fucking team sheet..... Absolutely disgusted with the fella.

I disagree mate, yes the team sheet was negative and the first half abysmal but I thought the second half was probably the best half of football we've put together so far this season, especially considering we were down to 10 men for most of it. If we would have managed to score another goal that comeback would have went down in Anfield folklore so I don't know how you can describe the whole 90 minutes as torturous.
Managers these days don't seem to get the opportunity to put things right, as we both know Shankly went through some tough times himself at the end of the 60's, one particular season we were beaten at home by the likes of Everton and United (United beat us 4-1 at Anfield, imagine the reaction of these modern fans to that!), we were knocked out of Europe in November by the mighty Veroria Setubal and knocked out of the F.A cup by second division Watford in one of the most infamous results in our history.
Before anyone starts going on about money by the standards of the day Shankly spent big money around that time on flops like Tony Hateley, Alun Evans and even John Toshack (who scored 4 league goals in his first season) to try and get us back challenging again, it was only when Kevin Keegan arrived from Scunthorpe that everything seemed to click.
Good job Shankly wasn't around in this era, he would have been well hounded out before he had the chance to put together that team that eventually conquered English and European football under Bob.

So if we'd managed to beat the Swiss champs to eventually qualify from a group that also held the Bulgarian champs after struggling through the first five games it would have gone down in folklore? BR really has hypnotised you mate. It's hardly the same as Istanbul and proves just how low expectancies have dropped. And we didn't even win..

Were Olympiacos giants of Europe at the time when we beat them 3-1? Since when has Anfield folklore been exclusively about matches against great teams?
The first competative game this club played after WWII was against Chester City in the third round of the F.A cup, it's gone down in Anfield folklore because that was the game Billy Liddell and Bob Paisley both made their debuts for the club, I suppose we'd better wipe that one from the records books because it doesn't match your criteria.
What about Shanklys first game (which was actually a bad loss) or the day he took us out of the second division? Don't they count either?

[red till i die!!]

BC - okay then let's compare him to Ferguson, In his first full season as United manager he finished second but then finished 11th and 13th in consecutive seasons, by that point the United fans had lost faith in him and wanted him out. To be fair to them he looked hopeless, he was wasting money on players like Neil Webb and Terry Phelan and they were on the wrong end of some bad results like 4-0 losses to us and Forest and infamously a 5-1 loss in the Manchester derby to an average City side.
Any manager can go through periods where they struggle, Ferguson was one of the greatest managers of all time but he couldn't do nothing right for 2 years.
If we sack Rodgers now we will look absolutely stupid. How is it going to look in the history books that we sacked a manager 4 months after he came closer than any other Liverpool manager in the last 25 years to winning the title?
People will look back and see how well we played when Suarez was banned, they will look at the 6-0 at Newcastle and the great start we made to last season with Sturridge leading the line, they will even look at our start to this season when we had Sturridge and see that we beat Southampton and Spurs and notice that our only loss was away at the champions after playing them off the park for 44 minutes.
It is going to look in the history books like Rodgers was sacked because Sturridge was injured, our fan base are going to look like the biggest bunch of spoilt whiners and moaners in history, and before anyone mentions wasted money I am telling you that most of those signings will turn out to be top players, yes it might take them a couple of years to reach their peak but that will make the fans look even worse.
Imagine Brendan adds insult to injury by dusting himself down and having a lot of success somewhere else? He is only 41 after all.

You are wasting your time mate.
Their minds appear to be made and they'll turn on the new guy as soon as we hit a rough patch. 

The short term thinking in this game is astonishing when you consider that all the great clubs have became great through long term plans.

Yeah ok, we all want to be super fans but what will you say if he survives this season and there is no improvement next year ? will it then be time to remove him or should he be given another year to turn it around ? or will you then say ok its time ?

I have seen so many plans come and go at this club, all the different managers with their own ideas and they are all gone along with their ideas and we never have become great. Personally I don't need to see him in the job for another 2 years for it to sink in that he has failed.  Its his 3rd year in the job mate and we have become so far removed from his plan that he is rebuilding again. Thats not good enough and all we will be doing is taking another massive gamble that he gets it right this time.

Just because one man fails does not mean the fan base will want the next guy out as soon as he hits a bad patch, but after 2 or 3 years if he proves to be as incompetent as this one then we move on. Its part and parcel of football, always was 
The key to success is having the right manager and for so many reasons rodgers isn't that person.

[RedAnt]

Yakka:

What i'm saying is you seem to be forgetting how awful our performances were in the games that lead up to us needing to win against the swiss. We won one game. Liverpool FC. And Brendan oversaw that run. How can we watch him dig us down so low and then call it folklore when...IF...he manages to drag us back up again? And he failed! Victory, defeat or draw, there was no folklore in our CL run this year. Just utter failure.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Yakka:

What i'm saying is you seem to be forgetting how awful our performances were in the games that lead up to us needing to win against the swiss. We won one game. Liverpool FC. And Brendan oversaw that run. How can we watch him dig us down so low and then call it folklore when...IF...he manages to drag us back up again? And he failed! Victory, defeat or draw, there was no folklore in our CL run this year. Just utter failure.

Any time 10 players beat 11 players mate it's memorable, especially when they are 1-0 down.
No one is saying things are going great, no one is saying that Rodgers hasn't made mistakes, I'm just saying let's not let our disappointment get the better of us and let's give Brendan the chance to turn things around. Let's at least give him the opportunity to get Sturridge, Coutinho and Sterling out on the park again, those 3 proved when Suarez was out for months that they can be a devastating attacking unit themselves (as the 6-0 win demolition of Newcastle and the exhibition away at Fulham proved).

[RedAnt]

Yakka:

What i'm saying is you seem to be forgetting how awful our performances were in the games that lead up to us needing to win against the swiss. We won one game. Liverpool FC. And Brendan oversaw that run. How can we watch him dig us down so low and then call it folklore when...IF...he manages to drag us back up again? And he failed! Victory, defeat or draw, there was no folklore in our CL run this year. Just utter failure.

Any time 10 players beat 11 players mate it's memorable, especially when they are 1-0 down.
No one is saying things are going great, no one is saying that Rodgers hasn't made mistakes, I'm just saying let's not let our disappointment get the better of us and let's give Brendan the chance to turn things around. Let's at least give him the opportunity to get Sturridge, Coutinho and Sterling out on the park again, those 3 proved when Suarez was out for months that they can be a devastating attacking unit themselves (as the 6-0 win demolition of Newcastle and the exhibition away at Fulham proved).

Well a win against United would be a good start. And as much as I admire your loyalty, I know in my heart of hearts that things have gone rotten for BR. I'm sure he'll prove a decent coach or manager in the future, but I can't see him reversing what has happened. Like you've said, it certainly isn't down to Rodgers alone. As the wind blew for us last year, it's blown against us this year. But the manner with which we've declined in so little time, coupled with the stunting effect it's had on Rodgers, I can't see any hope for him, or for us with him at the helm.

[Kash_Mountain]

Yakka:

What i'm saying is you seem to be forgetting how awful our performances were in the games that lead up to us needing to win against the swiss. We won one game. Liverpool FC. And Brendan oversaw that run. How can we watch him dig us down so low and then call it folklore when...IF...he manages to drag us back up again? And he failed! Victory, defeat or draw, there was no folklore in our CL run this year. Just utter failure.

Any time 10 players beat 11 players mate it's memorable, especially when they are 1-0 down.
No one is saying things are going great, no one is saying that Rodgers hasn't made mistakes, I'm just saying let's not let our disappointment get the better of us and let's give Brendan the chance to turn things around. Let's at least give him the opportunity to get Sturridge, Coutinho and Sterling out on the park again, those 3 proved when Suarez was out for months that they can be a devastating attacking unit themselves (as the 6-0 win demolition of Newcastle and the exhibition away at Fulham proved).

How long are you prepared to wait for DS to get back to match fitness? BR does not play Courtinho because he he isn't a favourite player. He loves Joe Allen et al. BR does not have the desire to play a creative player. Courtinho has become a bit part player. He is someone that actually can create things. If he is sold in Jan, as some speculate, you know what will happen.........

[red till i die!!]

Has anyone got any pro's as to why brendan deserves to get another clean sheet ? Other than we are liverpool and we don't sack manager's. Something positive thats actually going well for him or an area he has excelled in ? I can't think of many 

Pro's
He can deal with the media.

Con's
He talks too much and then over elaborates.
Nothing he says materialises.
He is stubborn, arrogant and has a massive ego.
Extremely poor in the transfer market.
Failure to improve what he did buy.
Tactically inept.
Blew a lot of money.
Extremely poor preparation for the CL.
Inconsistent with his team selections.
The embarrassing excuses.
His lack of winning experience.
His lack of european experience.
His failure to implement his philosophy.
His backroom staff.
His refusal to recognise he needs help.
Complete failure in sorting out our defensive issue's.
Very heavily reliant on players he inherited.
Cannot secure top talents.
Probably has lost half his dressing room.


I have never slagged him off over his teeth, his bird or anything else personal as that is his business. I judge him on what i believe to be crucial parts of management and how we have progressed under him.
It would be interesting to hear if anyone has any pro's as to why he should be given more time beyond this season.