RedAnt » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:11 pm wrote:Then we're on the same page, mostly. What I don't get is your impatience, or why you're so quick to see it all going wrong. I'm too lazy, and forgetful to list positives vs negatives, but most of us right now think things are going nifty.
Ya know when you step outside, expecting rain, but really mister sun has got his hat on, at least for a bit, well, hurray
My impatience comes from seeing players who quite frankly aren't good enough and people telling me to wait and see. I've been waiting and seeing for over twenty years. I can tell you after three or four games whether player has what it takes or not. I don't need five years of mediocre ***** before I make my mind up. I judge a players touch, passing, vision, strength etc etc the same way I would there pace. Players don't learn to do new things as they get older...
The old arguements on here used to go along the lines of... When Baros learns to get his head up he'll be better than Owen, he never was never going to learn to get his head up. When Sissoko learns to pass he'll be like Vieira, he never learnt to pass, when Babel improves his touch and consistency he'll be a great player... guess what... he never improved his touch and consistency.
Players don't "get good" at stuff they can't do. There is alot of myths in football, experience makes you a good player (it doesn't, it just allows a good player to maximise his already set level of ability) you need to have pace, foreigners don't play well in there first seasons etc etc etc.
Its all cliche, boring, unoriginal and quite frankly wrong.
People kept banging on about Englands golden generation, as soon as they lost Scholes, ***** Owen off and started playing Lampard and Terry on a regular basis it started going wrong (obviously there was other factors) but the reason it "went wrong" wasn't because they were good enough but couldn't perfom. It was because players like Lampard and Terry were over hyped into world beaters. The actual world beaters like Gerrard, Rooney and Ferdinand were then surrounded by decent but overated players instead of the class they previously had with them in Campbell, Neville, Scholes, Owen and Beckham.
Basically my point is, I can see how good the side is now, yes, we're doing really well at the minute, when we have a bad patch and everyones calling for everyones heads, you'll notice my stance won't change. I will probably look like the positive one then.