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Postby wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:36 pm

Boxscarf » Wed May 16, 2012 10:30 pm wrote:
wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:28 pm wrote:
However, I think we need to go for tried and tested who has experience of the top level in the prem and Europe and that man is Rafa Benitez.


I agree, but I don't think they'll appoint Rafa Benitez purely for the fact he's an ex-manager. I reckon they'll go with someone new.


Sadly I think you're right. I'd love to see Rafa back as the fact he managed to do so well with us when all was falling around his ears is testament to his ability as a manager.

A bit leftfield here, but what about that Bilbao manager?
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Postby heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 11:39 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 9:45 pm wrote:
stmichael » Wed May 16, 2012 9:39 pm wrote:i wonder if any of kenny's signings feel just a little bit guilty tonight?

i won't hold my breath. probably too busy celebrating getting in the euro 2012 squad.


kenny was let down by people above him as well.


Kenny was also let down by his inability to manage in the 21st century,stop looking round for scapegoats ffs.
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Postby D___C » Wed May 16, 2012 11:42 pm

Boxscarf » Wed May 16, 2012 10:22 pm wrote:
wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:12 pm wrote:
I have a bad feeling they will go for AVB. (Young, out of the job, no paying compensation to current club)


He might not be a bad choice, providing he is given full backing in the transfer market. I think his time at Chelsea has dented his reputation as a rising manager and that's unfortunate. Chelsea was just the wrong club for him, they're a club that sacked Carlo Ancelotti, a fantastic manager by all accounts. I wouldn't be opposed to Andre-Villas Boas coming to Liverpool. If he's given £100m worth of investment I believe he'd have us challenging for a top four spot.


Not convinced with him... and i dont just mean due to his results at Chelsea. He doesnt come across well in interviews.. doesnt inspire confidence. The players didnt play for him, there was no fight.. and he sounded exactly the same post match regardless of result. Doing well in one season at Porto (where success is a near certainty) is nothing to go on. Mourinho was exceptional and i fear that he has inflated the opinion toward other portuguese managers.

The dream would be Pep (looks like hes taking time away though), the other dream would have been Mourinho (timing is out as he aint leaving Madrid).
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Postby heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 11:43 pm

Ben Patrick » Wed May 16, 2012 10:34 pm wrote:Still proper gutted and actually scared at the moment as to what the fecks going on.

God knows whats going to happen next and who they will bring in.

Nothing would surprise me now.


Are you saying that you weren't surprised at where we ended up in the league because I'm thinking the owners might have been.
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Postby wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:44 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 10:30 pm wrote:wasnt keen on ayres statement during the suarez thing either tbh, bit of a pontius pilate job imo.
i hope we dont get AVB, managing in portugal is nothing like managing over here, an average manager has just took over a side he had looking like a shambles and got them to the CL final. if he has a bad start here everyone will be thinking here we go again, it`s chelsea mark ii.
every week the likes of hansen was on match of the day ripping the way he set out his defence.


Didn't like Ayre's interview on Sky Sports earlier either, he looked well smug when he replied about his own position. Don't trust him, he's a typical businessman. The way he said "everything has been successful off the field commerically but just need to sort out our performances on the field". Translation: "i'm alright Jack because I've done a great job and done no wrong at all, but Kenny's been *****, get rid". That's the way it came across to me anyway.

If AVB gets it, I'll give him all my support but I can't see the likes of Gerrard, Reina, Kuyt and Carra taking him seriously.
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Postby friendlyguy33 » Wed May 16, 2012 11:49 pm

Claire Rourke looked choked on LFCTV when she read the announcement almost in tears.
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Postby wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 11:49 pm

Stop looking round for scapegoats ffs.[/quote]

Surely, that is what FSG have done with their huge cull over the past few months? To satisfy the Gods at Standard Chartered?

In all seriousness thought without being any more faceitious, I just hope the owners know what they are doing.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Wed May 16, 2012 11:52 pm

heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 10:43 pm wrote:
Ben Patrick » Wed May 16, 2012 10:34 pm wrote:Still proper gutted and actually scared at the moment as to what the fecks going on.

God knows whats going to happen next and who they will bring in.

Nothing would surprise me now.


Are you saying that you weren't surprised at where we ended up in the league because I'm thinking the owners might have been.


I didnt expect to come 8th at the start of the season but i have previously explained i think its a false position.

We were extremely unlucky in so many matches, we battered the majority of sides but missed chance after chance. Now i honestly think that kind of luck wouldnt have been the same two seasons running.

I also think the last third of the season due to already being in the europa through the Carling cup win and the fact that 4th looked too far off, the players didnt perform as they should have. The old one eye on the FA cup games springs to mind.

His first season back we won a cup and almost another after not being in a final for about 6 years.

That to me is progress deffo.
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Postby friendlyguy33 » Wed May 16, 2012 11:59 pm

Ben Patrick » Wed May 16, 2012 10:52 pm wrote:
heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 10:43 pm wrote:
Ben Patrick » Wed May 16, 2012 10:34 pm wrote:Still proper gutted and actually scared at the moment as to what the fecks going on.

God knows whats going to happen next and who they will bring in.

Nothing would surprise me now.


Are you saying that you weren't surprised at where we ended up in the league because I'm thinking the owners might have been.


I didnt expect to come 8th at the start of the season but i have previously explained i think its a false position.

We were extremely unlucky in so many matches, we battered the majority of sides but missed chance after chance. Now i honestly think that kind of luck wouldnt have been the same two seasons running.

I also think the last third of the season due to already being in the europa through the Carling cup win and the fact that 4th looked too far off, the players didnt perform as they should have. The old one eye on the FA cup games springs to mind.

His first season back we won a cup and almost another after not being in a final for about 6 years.

That to me is progress deffo.


I agree that there was too much bad luck but I think a lot of those chances were half chances like Henderson when he hit the post at Fulham or Shelvey recently at Norwich. In some of those games as well when we hit the woodwork we still won the game though not the majority. I wonder if Suarez burned too quickly back in August/September bearing in mind he was at the Copa America last summer and his finishing declined after that. There were some decent performances but besides the Brighton FA Cup game I can't think of too many where the team looked like they would score a hatful. 

I think it would have been different next season but without some additional European quality I doubt that Kenny's team would have bridged an 18 point gap in twelve months to finish fourth. It's hypothetical now really.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 17, 2012 12:06 am

wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:44 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 10:30 pm wrote:wasnt keen on ayres statement during the suarez thing either tbh, bit of a pontius pilate job imo.
i hope we dont get AVB, managing in portugal is nothing like managing over here, an average manager has just took over a side he had looking like a shambles and got them to the CL final. if he has a bad start here everyone will be thinking here we go again, it`s chelsea mark ii.
every week the likes of hansen was on match of the day ripping the way he set out his defence.


Didn't like Ayre's interview on Sky Sports earlier either, he looked well smug when he replied about his own position. Don't trust him, he's a typical businessman. The way he said "everything has been successful off the field commerically but just need to sort out our performances on the field". Translation: "i'm alright Jack because I've done a great job and done no wrong at all, but Kenny's been *****, get rid". That's the way it came across to me anyway.

If AVB gets it, I'll give him all my support but I can't see the likes of Gerrard, Reina, Kuyt and Carra taking him seriously.


yeah, those business fella`s would $h1t on their best mate for an extra couple of quid in their pay packet, they dont get to the top by being nice fella`s.
funny how ayres still there though when everyone else has gone, especially when he was supposed to be in charge when the suarez thing happened.
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Postby NANNY RED » Thu May 17, 2012 12:12 am

heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 10:39 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 9:45 pm wrote:
stmichael » Wed May 16, 2012 9:39 pm wrote:i wonder if any of kenny's signings feel just a little bit guilty tonight?

i won't hold my breath. probably too busy celebrating getting in the euro 2012 squad.


kenny was let down by people above him as well.


Kenny was also let down by his inability to manage in the 21st century,stop looking round for scapegoats ffs.


Heimdall you stupid man ffs

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Postby Dalglish » Thu May 17, 2012 12:18 am

heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 11:39 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 9:45 pm wrote:
stmichael » Wed May 16, 2012 9:39 pm wrote:i wonder if any of kenny's signings feel just a little bit guilty tonight?

i won't hold my breath. probably too busy celebrating getting in the euro 2012 squad.


kenny was let down by people above him as well.


Kenny was also let down by his inability to manage in the 21st century,stop looking round for scapegoats ffs.



Heimdall ? Have you ever actually been to watch LFC or understand anything about the traditions and culture odf this club ?

I'm asking cos I suspect you have never set foot in Liverpool least of all attended games. If you had then you would understand just how much of a ***** you sound when you make incendiary and ill thought out comments like the above !

You might be under the misguided impression that your cutting edge, provocative and controversial but your not lad, your just a knob ! :eyebrow
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 17, 2012 12:19 am

D___C » Wed May 16, 2012 10:42 pm wrote:
Boxscarf » Wed May 16, 2012 10:22 pm wrote:
wrighty (not mark!) » Wed May 16, 2012 10:12 pm wrote:
I have a bad feeling they will go for AVB. (Young, out of the job, no paying compensation to current club)


He might not be a bad choice, providing he is given full backing in the transfer market. I think his time at Chelsea has dented his reputation as a rising manager and that's unfortunate. Chelsea was just the wrong club for him, they're a club that sacked Carlo Ancelotti, a fantastic manager by all accounts. I wouldn't be opposed to Andre-Villas Boas coming to Liverpool. If he's given £100m worth of investment I believe he'd have us challenging for a top four spot.


Not convinced with him... and i dont just mean due to his results at Chelsea. He doesnt come across well in interviews.. doesnt inspire confidence. The players didnt play for him, there was no fight.. and he sounded exactly the same post match regardless of result. Doing well in one season at Porto (where success is a near certainty) is nothing to go on. Mourinho was exceptional and i fear that he has inflated the opinion toward other portuguese managers.

The dream would be Pep (looks like hes taking time away though), the other dream would have been Mourinho (timing is out as he aint leaving Madrid).


half of these managers we are being linked to would $h1t themselves if we got drawn against barcelona or real madrid, they`d spend half the time wandering around the place like a daytripper in awe of the place and spend the other half jabbering to the press about how big an honour it is to play them.
rafa walked into those places as our manager like he owned the gaff and walked away with victories, when madrid tried to say we just got lucky (when we were the better team) and said they werent bothered about the `legend` of anfield we battered them 4-0.
the man is on a different level to the martinez`s, lamberts and villas-boas`s.
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Postby Dalglish » Thu May 17, 2012 12:28 am

heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 9:40 pm wrote:
stmichael » Wed May 16, 2012 8:33 pm wrote:right heimdall and banana.

who do you want as the next manager and tell us why?


I'd like Rafa back because he's the best manager we've had since Fagan. Give him a decent transfer budget and he'll do wonders, plus he's just in time to see the academy produce the results he set in motion.



If you think that Fenway are going anywhere near a person who has even the slightest connection to LFC either as a player or previous manager then your sadly mistaken !

Just in case it's passed you by they just got rid of a former Player and  Manager of the club in Kenny Dalglish !

NO Manager
NO Assisitant
NO Lawyer
NO Communications Director
NO Director of Football
NO Medical Director

Feck me, I'd be quaking in my boots if I clean the Anfield Silverware such is FSG's penchant for sacking employeees of the club !

Paul Lambert will be the next Liverpool Manager and he will be lucky to survive till Christmas. NOT because he isn't a good manager because he is. However with owners who have less patience than my 4 year old it's 4th or the dole queue as far as their concerned !
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Postby Homebooby » Thu May 17, 2012 12:29 am

heimdall » Wed May 16, 2012 8:35 pm wrote:[quote="[url=http://www.liverpoolfc-newkit.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=1170744#p1170744]


It was the wrong decision , 2 finals in his first season , they should of give him more time , What do they do they bring Kenny in to steady the ship , and bring the fans back together then after one season the get rid , do me a favour , and im not meaning the next manager has to make an immediate impact , they have to get it right it cant be another Roy situation were noone wanted him before he came and it got worse as it went on , it has to be right for the players to want to stay and play under them , it has to be right for us the fans , we cant be getting rid of managers every f,ucking season like Chelsea an Newcastle , they need to get this appointment spot on , otherwise them internet terrorists could very well start to raise there heads again ,


So do you think Newcastle should have kept Chris Hughton or Glenn Roeder? They seem to have done well out of changing manager to Pardew, as do Chelsea for that matter. Change isn't always scary Nanny, sometimes it can be good, and I guarantee that next season will be much much better than this one has been because we will have a better quality manager.[/quote]





Are you seriously comparing the legend that is KK to those 2? If so, wow
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