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by **LFC2007** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:05 pm

Just unbelievable he could take Torres off. Of all occasions to pull that one out the bag, not this game, not when our season depends on it.

No champions league football for a year-and-a-half? :no

We've come full circle under this manager.

by **lakes10** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:05 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
NorfolkRed wrote:its not this game thats costly - is it only one side in the top 10 have won at Birmingham this year? so a draw is a par result - its the awful performances away at the likes of Portsmouth that have really cost us

that said taking off Torres for anything other than an injury just makes no sense at all and an injury doesnt seem likely

Or if he was just playing sh*t or could be playing with a niggling knock he picked up against Benfica? He was kicked stupid in that game, but some seem to have forgotten about that on here. Anyway, we created more when he was off the pitch than when he was on it. We really should have won, and I agree it's not this game that's cost us. It was the previous 15 or so away games before it.

ER... look at Torres' expression.. he was fine! he shook his head on why the Rafa is taking him off?!

So?

lol mate stop trying to trying to defend the indefensible

by **NorfolkRed** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:05 pm

Sky sports news just said Torres had a knee injury

by **tubby** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:06 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Some of you spanners only clicking on now we wouldn't qualify for the CL? That was a reality about 3 months ago ffs, so dry your eyes. Was out of our hands. The top four went to Birmingham and left with a point, but when we do it we're sh*t, and Rafa's clueless. Told you all we'll never make fourth with our away form as it is. A point is a good point here, sadly 4th was well beyond us by now.

You're missing the point by miles lad. Rafa subs the only striker we have at 1-1 with 30 mins remaining. Mcleish takes off a midfielder for another striker. The difference one manager is clueless the other manager is Alex Mcleish.

I swear if we got relegated you'd still back that joke of a manager.

That's what I don't get, why on earth take off Torres? Maybe he took a knock and Rafa took him off as a precaution.

by **parchpea** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:06 pm

Well at least the curtain has drawn on it all now.Benitez should have dealt with long ago when all this was on the cards but we left it alone and its ended as expected. I mean replacing Torres with half an hour left to play, absolutley amazing decision yet somehow you half expect it.Its as if he wants to be the guy that takes all the plaudits and is happy to take hellish risks to prove hes a master tactician but inevitably it backfires. Anyways its hardly a shock and the task now is finding his replacement and for Rafa to seek employment elsewhere.

by **tonyeh** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:08 pm

With Torres ON the field, some of those chances may have been converted into goals.

by **Emerald Red** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:08 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
NorfolkRed wrote:its not this game thats costly - is it only one side in the top 10 have won at Birmingham this year? so a draw is a par result - its the awful performances away at the likes of Portsmouth that have really cost us

that said taking off Torres for anything other than an injury just makes no sense at all and an injury doesnt seem likely

Or if he was just playing sh*t or could be playing with a niggling knock he picked up against Benfica? He was kicked stupid in that game, but some seem to have forgotten about that on here. Anyway, we created more when he was off the pitch than when he was on it. We really should have won, and I agree it's not this game that's cost us. It was the previous 15 or so away games before it.

mate the look on his face and the other players faces tells you there was nothing wrong with him.

All I seen was a slight shake of his head when he was coming off. That's not any kind of indication to make bold assumptions on. Of course it's the usual whenever that sub was made it was always going to be used as some kind of excuse. You'd think they sky is about to fall FFS. Even on the stream I was watching, the commentators made complete c*nts of themselves by saying it was the Liverpool supporters that were bo'ing the sub, then were promptly reminded in their ear that N'G'og took a dive against them a while back and that it was the home crowd that were doing it against him. Again, jumping to conclusions always makes people look like clueless knobheads.

by **rocky29** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:09 pm

maybe if we stop giving yellow cards away we cud still win the fair play award this season? better than nothing?

by **tonyeh** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:09 pm

NorfolkRed wrote:Sky sports news just said Torres had a knee injury

Bollocks

by **TheLad** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:10 pm

Did the subs make us play better in the last 20 minutes? MAYBE.
Would Torres have got into the right positions to have those chances (which Ngog had)? PROBABLY NOT
Would Torres have buried those chances? YES.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:10 pm

I think this is what Rafa have plan ...
1) Get Sack
2) Get 20 mil
3) Go to R.M
4) Buy SG, Torres and Mascherano ...

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:10 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Some of you spanners only clicking on now we wouldn't qualify for the CL? That was a reality about 3 months ago ffs, so dry your eyes. Was out of our hands. The top four went to Birmingham and left with a point, but when we do it we're sh*t, and Rafa's clueless. Told you all we'll never make fourth with our away form as it is. A point is a good point here, sadly 4th was well beyond us by now.

You're missing the point by miles lad. Rafa subs the only striker we have at 1-1 with 30 mins remaining. Mcleish takes off a midfielder for another striker. The difference one manager is clueless the other manager is Alex Mcleish.

I swear if we got relegated you'd still back that joke of a manager.

Yeah, you are correct. I'd still back him, but I'm not so fickle to barrate a manager for making one f*cking sub. A manager makes subs for impact, and when Torres came off, we created more chances, so who's right? You? Anyone on here? Give me a f*cking break. Some players, even the best, can have an off day and CAN be subbed.

Any fool can see that the chances created after Torres went off were a natural progression of the game, nothing to do with Ngog. Our pressure was bound to eventually create chances, chances that Torres would gave scored one off at least.

by **Emerald Red** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:11 pm

NorfolkRed wrote:Sky sports news just said Torres had a knee injury

WHay!

And there it is! Some f*ckin bells on here.

by **dawson99** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:11 pm

and who told sky?...stand up Rafa

by **Emerald Red** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:12 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Some of you spanners only clicking on now we wouldn't qualify for the CL? That was a reality about 3 months ago ffs, so dry your eyes. Was out of our hands. The top four went to Birmingham and left with a point, but when we do it we're sh*t, and Rafa's clueless. Told you all we'll never make fourth with our away form as it is. A point is a good point here, sadly 4th was well beyond us by now.

You're missing the point by miles lad. Rafa subs the only striker we have at 1-1 with 30 mins remaining. Mcleish takes off a midfielder for another striker. The difference one manager is clueless the other manager is Alex Mcleish.

I swear if we got relegated you'd still back that joke of a manager.

Yeah, you are correct. I'd still back him, but I'm not so fickle to barrate a manager for making one f*cking sub. A manager makes subs for impact, and when Torres came off, we created more chances, so who's right? You? Anyone on here? Give me a f*cking break. Some players, even the best, can have an off day and CAN be subbed.

Any fool can see that the chances created after Torres went off were a natural progression of the game, nothing to do with Ngog. Our pressure was bound to eventually create chances, chances that Torres would gave scored one off at least.

Go watch Sky Sports news, and make sure you've a box of tissues to dry your eyes with.

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