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big al wrote:I totally understand and respect the loyality that many of you have towards Rafa Most off you are Part of the Anfield Faithful and for you its more that dic*heads like me giving analysis of what the manager did worng.  You Love Rafa he give you Istanbul.  There are also those armchair boys who ain't ever kicked a ball. I am not one of those and I truley am envious of those Anfield die hards.  I know a little bit about football and I know that at the end of the day its about results.  That hard for people who are emotional involved to accept.  My analysis is slightly subjective I'll admit that but I take exception to people whose only response to criticism, is to be abusive.  Abuse in my direction merely proves to me you being emotive and you cannot step back and give an objective assessment of the facts.

Dazzer wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

lewerty wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

lewerty wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

lewerty wrote:rafa is so out of a job and good tbh how can u leave a 20million pound midfielder on the bench rafa out and yanks out coz they cant afford us not to qualify for CL lmfao

shut up - that 20 mil midfielder has only played 15 mins of football in 7 months you clown

yeah and that 20million pound midfielder is miles better than ngog ffs and nearly got a penalty awarded against the gunners

oh shut up - thats just ridiculous trying to even justify such a statement

ngog or aqualira (spelling) ummm ill have a think on that one

Aqualini has played 15 mins of football in 7 months - 15 mins and is just recovering from a virus as well . Ngog when he came on against the mancs scored - there are the facts . Ngog coming on had f.uck all to do with us loosing a last min equaliser

So wrong I not even gonna get into ti fact we lost 2 and drawn 1 almost in row now late in game due to him being taken off.

cheers Dazzer I never realised how good nando was at centre back

You just don't get football do you ? They pushed an extra 3 players up as soon as Torres come off because they knew they could man mark ngog 1v1 and not worry as much about the counter.When Torres was on they held their shape alot more and didn't push forward as much.Its always a mistake to sub you main front man after scoring a goal any ways nearly always costs you.

Emerald Red wrote:I'm not sure it's wise for me to be on here at the moment.

BTW, any cunt the even tries to put any sort of blame on the manager for this game is a grade A cock sucker.

metalhead wrote:

big al wrote:Those on here who blame Rafa for taking Torres off are spot on and well spotted.  That goal came in the first time Lyon had pushed 4 men forward.  Torres had paralysed them by his reputation alone.  It may well be argued by the Rafa Die Hards that Lyon Had nothing to lose and would have thrown 4 up anyway but that we'll never know. What we do know is they did'nt for 86 minutes. Then they suddenly did. Also Rafa is puts too much faith in players who constantly let him and their team mates down.

Disagree, it has nothing to do with Torres being taken off, we were just not good enough at the back! I wasn't surprised at all that we will f*ck up there because we have a really weak back 4. The Greek proved that he was another basement buy and shyte player.

Emerald Red wrote:I'm not sure it's wise for me to be on here at the moment.

BTW, any cunt the even tries to put any sort of blame on the manager for this game is a grade A cock sucker.

Greavesie wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:cheer up people.

Honestly Rajiv mate football's never hurt me so much

big al wrote:I totally understand and respect the loyality that many of you have towards Rafa Most off you are Part of the Anfield Faithful and for you its more that dic*heads like me giving analysis of what the manager did worng.  You Love Rafa he give you Istanbul.  There are also those armchair boys who ain't ever kicked a ball. I am not one of those and I truley am envious of those Anfield die hards.  I know a little bit about football and I know that at the end of the day its about results.  That hard for people who are emotional involved to accept.  My analysis is slightly subjective I'll admit that but I take exception to people whose only response to criticism, is to be abusive.  Abuse in my direction merely proves to me you being emotive and you cannot step back and give an objective assessment of the facts.

Greavesie wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:I'm not sure it's wise for me to be on here at the moment.

BTW, any cunt the even tries to put any sort of blame on the manager for this game is a grade A cock sucker.

Don't browse the rest of the thread then 

john craig wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

metalhead wrote:Fernando Torres is a world class center back!!! FFS Rafa why did you take him off 

No, no, mate--don't you see?  We had them absolutely pinned back for every single second of the 87 minutes Torres was on the pitch.  They never even had a sniff (disregard that save Reina had to make with his face, or the header just outside his area or those freekicks...).  We pull Nando off and, wham, they're all over us like sailors in a brothel.  FECKIN' RAFA! 

Don't be naive for Christ sake.

Of course that substitution affected the game.  Torres' mere presence on the pitch occupies at least 2 defenders and crucially they fear him.  You bring him off and it automatically gives them a lift and the defenders the confidence to take risks.

It was a stupid decision against United which invited pressure but we got away with it.  It was a stupid decision against Fulham... clearly.  And guess what, it was a stupid decision again tonight.

Obviously we can blame Voronin's miss, the home game v Lyon or the performance at Fiorentina, but don't pretend the manager couldn't have made the closing minutes of the game a bit easier for us by leaving Torres on.  He managed 86 minutes... what's the likelihood that the final 4 minutes will make any difference to his physical condition for the next game.  Nonsense.

I'm sorry, but it was a stupid substitution that contributed to the outcome.

GreeksterPAO wrote:

metalhead wrote:

big al wrote:Those on here who blame Rafa for taking Torres off are spot on and well spotted.  That goal came in the first time Lyon had pushed 4 men forward.  Torres had paralysed them by his reputation alone.  It may well be argued by the Rafa Die Hards that Lyon Had nothing to lose and would have thrown 4 up anyway but that we'll never know. What we do know is they did'nt for 86 minutes. Then they suddenly did. Also Rafa is puts too much faith in players who constantly let him and their team mates down.

Disagree, it has nothing to do with Torres being taken off, we were just not good enough at the back! I wasn't surprised at all that we will f*ck up there because we have a really weak back 4. The Greek proved that he was another basement buy and shyte player.

ya ok relax there buddy. did lyon crucify their defensemen for allowing babel to take a shot. you're a moron. besides the unlucky goal, kyrgiakos was the class of the defenders again 2day just like he was last game. carragher wouldnt do any better. these are 2 elite teams, players are good and ppl do score goals. 1 -1 relax and be thankful u have such a beast in the back.

john craig wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:I'm not sure it's wise for me to be on here at the moment.

BTW, any cunt the even tries to put any sort of blame on the manager for this game is a grade A cock sucker.

Shut the fu.ck up.

Emerald Red wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:I'm not sure it's wise for me to be on here at the moment.

BTW, any cunt the even tries to put any sort of blame on the manager for this game is a grade A cock sucker.

Don't browse the rest of the thread then 

I'm well aware of who the usual clueless w"nkers are.

F*cking gutted here. I feel like someone just kicked me in the bollox. F*ckin robbed. Nothing just seems to want to go our way at the moment. Voronin is a waster and seeing him in a Liverpool shirt just doesn't sit well with me at all. Ditto with that Greek at the back. Just doesn't look right at all with him with a Liverbird on his chest.

Emerald Red wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:I'm not sure it's wise for me to be on here at the moment.

BTW, any cunt the even tries to put any sort of blame on the manager for this game is a grade A cock sucker.

Don't browse the rest of the thread then 

I'm well aware of who the usual clueless w"nkers are.

F*cking gutted here. I feel like someone just kicked me in the bollox. F*ckin robbed. Nothing just seems to want to go our way at the moment. Voronin is a waster and seeing him in a Liverpool shirt just doesn't sit well with me at all. Ditto with that Greek at the back. Just doesn't look right at all with him with a Liverbird on his chest.