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Postby Dazzer » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:43 am

Greavesie wrote:
DAV wrote:o please Greavesie i will repeat what is already posted myself on this thread. mindless tosh you may call it but please dont just cut and paste a small sextion on my thread and make out that is all i have said.
i repeat again (do you have a reading problem like kewell)
we had a weak squad at the end of last season - we payed over the odds to but a right back sold a decent right back.
19million he cost.
we bort a super star from italy (not his fault) we new he would be injured for months and months.
we have 1 decent striker no back up
you want me to go on repeating what i have already wrote on this thread Greavesie. stop trying to act big by cutting and pasting a small part of what has been written by someone.

Mate I quoted your whole post there, some of your views are valid but that point is just nothing. it provokes others and makes your previous points about Rafa less valid because it makes it seem you have a vendetta on him rather than the good of LFC in mind

I like to read peoples views but do try to be more construtive than simply stating you dont like lucas

I have no reading problem, I've read a lot of your posts in this thread and like I've just said the one I've quoted is a pile of needless poo, surely you see that?

Damn right some of us have a vendetta vs him we can see he can't win the prem so yeah vendetta isn't to far from truth.If thats how you like to cut things black and white then I am a Rafa hater but if the truth be known,  Its always been a gray area for me.But lately Its been hard for me to push those feelings of OMFG away.What it comes down to is Rafa makes things less simple on the pitch football isn't rocket science far from it if you have a better team you should win 9 time out of 10.No need for fancy tactics just match up to the other team man for man.If they go 4-4-2 go 4-4-2 and have a real go.Never bought into this 2 DM rubbish what ever happened to a good old school 4-1-2-1-2 best ballanced formation around or just 4-4-2.For me football for a player should be fun,  I see playing for Rafa like a job and not even a fun job.If the player plays well Rafa gets credit and Player plays bad Rafa blames the player who in there right minds would wanna play for a manager like that ? He only praise a player if he got a big game coming up like it some ploy to get best out of them.I mean I can see his tricks I am sure his own players can.

End of day it comes down to do these players respect him any more , maybe , but I can see it getting wrose game after game.No more is it about playing for liverpool its about playing for Rafa he is a god bla bla I am sick of it all those who defend Rafa above all else should be ashamed as this isn't LFC any more its RafaFC.Its bad enough we have 2 owners with no idea about the club with this on top.Long have the days gone when players played for the shirt we lost that after Istanbal and I can't see it comming back untill Rafa the ego leaves.
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Postby eds » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:57 am

I'm sorry but the fact we have kept Benitez after this latest debarcle is very very worrying.

He needs to go.......
"LIVERPOOL: 6 European Cups, 20 Domestic Titles, 3 UEFA Cups, 8 FA Cups, 10 League Cups and 4 European Super Cups and 1 Club World Championship

All other English clubs pale into insignificance!"
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Postby eds » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:00 am

AND NOW!
"LIVERPOOL: 6 European Cups, 20 Domestic Titles, 3 UEFA Cups, 8 FA Cups, 10 League Cups and 4 European Super Cups and 1 Club World Championship

All other English clubs pale into insignificance!"
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:03 am

eds wrote:AND NOW!

ok
“You cannot transfer the heart and soul of Liverpool Football Club, although I am sure there are many clubs who would like to buy it.”
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Postby Octsky » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:31 am

People are saying no manager in the world can do a better job than Rafa but Rafa has lost 6 and won just 1 in the last 7 games?
Really? ??? No manager can do better than that ???
And the primary defense for Rafa is that no money was made available for him to sign Villa, Silva, ...
But this season we outspend the other big 3! Rafa has the habit for running the squad borderline thin and putting trust in the wrong players (Lucas, Voronin, Degen).
I hope RM can come down now, give us 20 mil for Rafa then maybe we are even for the years for rape, pillage n murder (Owen, Macca, Alonso)
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:44 am

Octsky wrote:People are saying no manager in the world can do a better job than Rafa but Rafa has lost 6 and won just 1 in the last 7 games?
Really? ??? No manager can do better than that ???
And the primary defense for Rafa is that no money was made available for him to sign Villa, Silva, ...
But this season we outspend the other big 3! Rafa has the habit for running the squad borderline thin and putting trust in the wrong players (Lucas, Voronin, Degen).
I hope RM can come down now, give us 20 mil for Rafa then maybe we are even for the years for rape, pillage n murder (Owen, Macca, Alonso)

to be honest, until the boardroom has been sorted out, we haven't much chance of anything getting sorted out.
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Postby Espionage » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:54 am

Although there are a lot of people calling for his head, I dont think that this result changed that many people's minds. Maybe it did.

Either way I wouldnt mind seeing a new Rafa faith-o-metre around about now..
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Postby Dazzer » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:03 am

Espionage wrote:Although there are a lot of people calling for his head, I dont think that this result changed that many people's minds. Maybe it did.

Either way I wouldnt mind seeing a new Rafa faith-o-metre around about now..

I know few have wanted one so I made a new Rafa faith o-meter.
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Postby Octsky » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:07 am

Dazzer wrote:
Espionage wrote:Although there are a lot of people calling for his head, I dont think that this result changed that many people's minds. Maybe it did.

Either way I wouldnt mind seeing a new Rafa faith-o-metre around about now..

I know few have wanted one so I made a new Rafa faith o-meter.

:D I beginning to suspect are you the real Michael Scott??  :D
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Postby Espionage » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:09 am

Lets just put this in perspective for a minute... Rafa played a strong team at CC. The team played well on top of that!

Of course Rafa's subs are going to look :censored: if players get sent off as soon as he makes them. Pretty hard for Eccleston to look good if after being on the pitch for 1 minute Degan gets sent off for a yellow card challenge. Babel had more time to make an impact, but once we were down to 10, then 9 men he cant get blamed for not imposing himself on the game. Taking Torres off was always going to happen, taking Yossi off was maybe a mistake in hindsight, but putting pressure on the manager now is not constructive or even justified.

Get a grip and take the result of the chin, we have a big job to turn this season around so lets not stuff everything thing up by putting more pressure on the club.
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Postby Dazzer » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:13 am

Octsky wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
Espionage wrote:Although there are a lot of people calling for his head, I dont think that this result changed that many people's minds. Maybe it did.

Either way I wouldnt mind seeing a new Rafa faith-o-metre around about now..

I know few have wanted one so I made a new Rafa faith o-meter.

:D I beginning to suspect are you the real Michael Scott??  :D

Well you have to believe that untill its proven untrue I guess you need my dental records ?
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Postby boodiddy1 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:41 am

He is losing the plot fast. Are we becoming a club that just wants to beat the mancs twice and yet lose at least 10 in the league?

Its purely rafa's fault that our squad is so thin and unbalanced. Numerous fullbacks, midfielders and wingers. Forwards that cant score or are moved wide right. We cant blame the owners anymore, he's had five seasons to get this squad sorted and im sorry, but, we have gone back so fast this year, its scary.

Fact, gerrard and torres are relied on far too much, and so its inevitable, that there bodies are straining.

Its his team, and to me, it looks like he has lost them. Alonso, Pennant ( i know he went downhill) fell out big time, pennant saying he felt like a school kid playing for rafa. Remember, when given a run, he did well for us.

I cant write how mad i am with the club. BUt, mainly rafa.  He has to go. :angry:
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Postby boodiddy1 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:48 am

Bringing in a manager mid season can help tremendously. redknapp, ancelotti, Allardyce last season. Hodgson year before.

For me, lets bring in dalglish, with maybe molby as coach. Just putting it out there. Ideally, i'd love mourinho. Never gonna happen though. Hodgson?? Not a bad shout. What about enticing dalglish with big alan hansen? ???


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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:53 am

I see the clueless bellend brigade have dropped by to offer their worthless derogatory opinions on the manager...

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Postby Dazzer » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:07 am

Since i can't post in the poll I like to add I did make one pre manc game for the manc game and it got deleted as for poll being useless If its so useless why so many people vote on them ? Plus it was by request I said don't shoot the maker as I was asked to make it by more then 1 memeber.
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