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DAV wrote:dazzer im 36 been going since i was a kid, i went to such games as peterbrough away, and brian tininan scoring for bristol,
thing is back in day you always had a squad to rely on.
but now we dont.

Back then tho Dav we had managers who knew the league and bought lads closer to home that knew what it was to play for our shirt. 

LFC2007 wrote:

s@int wrote:I posted something similar a couple of pages back(perhaps a little harsher) to Nanny..... don't blame you for not wanting to wade back through though 

What irritates me is this Rafa can do no wrong business (not from you). When he is wrong he is wrong, it should be admitted by everyone and then we move on to the next game.

Hiding it behind money, injuries, parry, purslow and the two clowns does no one any favours.

He fecked up badly today, hopefully he does better next time 

Yep, I broadly agree. I wouldn't agree that there aren't other factors - there are - and to that extent I'm probably going to disagree with yourself and Mick, but Rafa has to accept the lion's share of responsibility for things on the pitch and so far it's been well below par. It's the extent of it that shocks me, but we have to move on - we can only move on.

I remember we had this argument about excuses vs reasons years ago.

DAV wrote:i no this is off point. but this great guy rafa. he plays lucas week in week out. we slag him off on here the commentators on tv slag him off and press slag him off.
Are we all wrong and god RAFA is right?

We should be greatful Dav at least he isn't keeping him on the bench you know to bring on last 10 mins to nick us a goal or something. 

J*o*n*D*o*e wrote:leave Rafa alone its my fault, i put £50 of my virtual bet on us winning.



sorry




ill put it on Chelsea next week 

That avatar gets funnier every time I watch it like a black hole of comady. 

bigmick wrote:Coming back to LFC's point, I actually agree with him that there are other factors. It's not ALL Rafa, but a large part of it is IMHO. Obviously we are currently in a really bad trot with injuries for example, it's very significant and not the managers fault. Equally, what with the fecking beach ball and two sendings off today, we're not having a lot of luck either. I do also think there is possibly something in the "pull the rug" theory. Also, I do think as I've said many times that we had a set of circumstances last season which were unbelieveably favourable and perhaps made us look better than we actually are, and while it's not as significant as some make out, the owners fecking around doesn't help anybody either.

s@int wrote:I don't remember many people saying the only reason we challenged last season was because Alonso got EIGHT people sent off against us?

Feck me, we're missing Alonso. 

s@int wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

s@int wrote:

Greavesie wrote:know what it is, part of me wants us to up so some of you lot really do off. lets see who really loves the club, wholl stay and fight for it through thick and thin. some of you really are a bunch of just in it for success. Its more than that. LFC is a family, win or lose we stick together, always have always will. We're all crying for the club to get in order and we cant even get ourselves in order. what a depressing dire situation this is. jesus christ

I think if anyone was in it for the "success" they would have fecked off by now mate. 4 years and counting since our last "success". We are here to stay , its just the moaning and groaning that is getting louder.

I know s@int it was just an outburst, sorry mate, maybe I need a break from this

We all need to vent mate.  It must be even worse for you ..... at least I get it out of my system by blaming the manager 

true enough mate, I can see his faults, honestly I can. Its one of them things, I'd like to see how someone else would do but it means no more Rafa and no turning back, its a very final decision that I just cant get on board with right now. Everyones entitled to theirs views mate and you and Mick put them together without too much provocation and you manage to get discussions going (sometimes )

I'm not one of those who immediately argue with those who hate rafa, I can easily see his faults that you and Mick point out

but there are others who pick up on things that are just petty b0llocks...