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Postby heimdall » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:17 am

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baldricks_cunning_plan wrote:Yeah lets sack Rafa, lets sack the one saving grace we have left in terms of authority at the club.

He's been given a pittance to spend this summer to replace last year's player of the year, as well as the greatest centre half we've had in the Premiership era and one of the most reliable right backs in the country. He sold Alonso for 30 million, since then has spent around 20 on it to try and replace him, wheres the other 10 million gone? That's not including the money he got for selling Arby, Leto, Hobbs, Anderson and Hammill. He's had to sell and even then still isn't given that money to buy back.

He's had a squad that's full of injuries, thanks to our overly kind international schedule. There's not a great deal he can do about that, no matter how much people wanna blame Rafa for it.

His options are limited and he can't just pluck another top quality player out of thin air, quality costs and with those f*****g robbing b******s in charge of the club, Rafa isn't gonna be given the money to buy top quality. He's always gonna be having to settle for second or third best in terms of quality. It's testament to how good a manger he is when you see what he's achieved under such disturbing circumstances.

I'm not talking about the trophies he's won because they were won under the Moores' regime.

I'm talking about taking us to our highest points tally in our history. Yes our f*****g history. The history that has won us 18 League titles, none of those title winning sides won as many points as Rafa Benitez' Liverpool side did last year. I'm talking about constantly fighting the owners for the good of the club, Rafa is the one who wants good for the club and Rafa is good for the club. I'm talking about us t******g United in their own back f*****g yard. In case you missed that game it ended 4-1. Rafa outclassed Ferguson in every department. He outclassed money bags Hughes last year 3-2. He outclassed money bags Scolari. He's outclassed every so called top manager.

And it was this squad (pretty much) and these tactics that set us so well last year. Difference being? That's right dimwits, the players are the ones not performing and without decent f*****g owners giving Rafa the funds he needs, he's not gonna be able to bring in a better class of player. His hands are tied.

But yeah lets sack him and bring in a yes man for those two con artist c***s who claim to be owning the club. You'll only ever own this club by name you pair of t***s, but in spirit the club will always belong to the fans. But they'll bring in a yes man who they can control, Rafa is anything but that and is always fighting our corner for us.

If you want him sacked then you've a f*****g lot to learn about football in general and even more so Liverpool Football Club. Top clubs, and this one especially, don't sack their managers because of a few bad results. Top clubs, and especially this one, are proud to have managers of the caliber of Rafa Benitez and should do everything in their power to keep him as boss.

There's very few top class managers with Rafa's record, dignity, pride, loyalty and class but what the heck, lets just f*****g sack him and bring in Mark McGhee.

Don't sweat it. I've seen about five or six of these so called threads pop up on this forum when we're in a bad spot. Strange how they all seem to disappear while our manager remains each and every time.

If we get humiliated by Manure and then loose to Lyon, both looking very fecking likely at the moment, then he'll be gone, oh my God we'll be loosing a tactical genius who takes off our one attacking option with minutes to go yet curiously leaves Lucas on the pitch.  :Oo:
I've gradually come to the conclusion that you guys are either wums of the highest order or completely fecking clueless about football or maybe both.
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Postby baldricks_cunning_plan » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:23 am

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baldricks_cunning_plan wrote:Yeah lets sack Rafa, lets sack the one saving grace we have left in terms of authority at the club.

He's been given a pittance to spend this summer to replace last year's player of the year, as well as the greatest centre half we've had in the Premiership era and one of the most reliable right backs in the country. He sold Alonso for 30 million, since then has spent around 20 on it to try and replace him, wheres the other 10 million gone? That's not including the money he got for selling Arby, Leto, Hobbs, Anderson and Hammill. He's had to sell and even then still isn't given that money to buy back.

He's had a squad that's full of injuries, thanks to our overly kind international schedule. There's not a great deal he can do about that, no matter how much people wanna blame Rafa for it.

His options are limited and he can't just pluck another top quality player out of thin air, quality costs and with those f*****g robbing b******s in charge of the club, Rafa isn't gonna be given the money to buy top quality. He's always gonna be having to settle for second or third best in terms of quality. It's testament to how good a manger he is when you see what he's achieved under such disturbing circumstances.

I'm not talking about the trophies he's won because they were won under the Moores' regime.

I'm talking about taking us to our highest points tally in our history. Yes our f*****g history. The history that has won us 18 League titles, none of those title winning sides won as many points as Rafa Benitez' Liverpool side did last year. I'm talking about constantly fighting the owners for the good of the club, Rafa is the one who wants good for the club and Rafa is good for the club. I'm talking about us t******g United in their own back f*****g yard. In case you missed that game it ended 4-1. Rafa outclassed Ferguson in every department. He outclassed money bags Hughes last year 3-2. He outclassed money bags Scolari. He's outclassed every so called top manager.

And it was this squad (pretty much) and these tactics that set us so well last year. Difference being? That's right dimwits, the players are the ones not performing and without decent f*****g owners giving Rafa the funds he needs, he's not gonna be able to bring in a better class of player. His hands are tied.

But yeah lets sack him and bring in a yes man for those two con artist c***s who claim to be owning the club. You'll only ever own this club by name you pair of t***s, but in spirit the club will always belong to the fans. But they'll bring in a yes man who they can control, Rafa is anything but that and is always fighting our corner for us.

If you want him sacked then you've a f*****g lot to learn about football in general and even more so Liverpool Football Club. Top clubs, and this one especially, don't sack their managers because of a few bad results. Top clubs, and especially this one, are proud to have managers of the caliber of Rafa Benitez and should do everything in their power to keep him as boss.

There's very few top class managers with Rafa's record, dignity, pride, loyalty and class but what the heck, lets just f*****g sack him and bring in Mark McGhee.

Poor Rafa, ah! poor little lamb not getting money to buy the league, poor little lamb being forced to play Lucas, poor little lamb being forced to :censored: off Xabi so much that he demanded a transfer, poor little lamb who brought back Stevie before he was ready so that he is out injured for a long time, poor little lamb for buying a midfielder who is still to kick a ball, poor little lamb being forced to buy a luxury player like Glen Johnson.

In summary Fecking Parry!  :angry:

Who said he needs to buy the league Mr Lamb? He needs adequate funds to replace the players he's selling, if he's selling then he needs to be given the money he raises. Maybe that's a tad difficult for you to understand Herpes Doll. (have I spelt your name correctly?)

He didn't bring Stevie back before he was ready. Stevie said he was ready, it was the captain's fault. But god forbid that eh Herpes?

He's not forced to play Lucas, he chooses to play Lucas. And for your information Herpes, if you had the slightest intelligence where football is concerned, you'd see that Lucas has been one of the better performers this year. But god forbid that as well eh Herpes? God forbid Lucas getting any sort of credit.

If Xabi wanted out so badly why did he only hand in a transfer request when Madrid had come in for him and failed because Rafa stood his ground eh Herpes? Why didn't he hand it in at the start of the season after being "almost forced out the club"? Xabi wanted his move to Madrid because of himself not because of what went on the summer before. Oh but because Xabi said it was because he was trying to be flogged to Juventus it must be true? Tripe, a bit like your post. If he was that hurt, he'd have put in a transfer request long before Real Madrid made their interests known.

If that's not clear enough for you Herpes, I suggest you go to bed and read a nice book. For somebody of your mental capacity, Humpty Dumpty should be a good start. There's a good little Herpes.
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Postby heimdall » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:30 am

So what is your mental capacity then? Does it really only extend to childish name calling, for shame Baldrick. I love the way you and Lando always call other people stupid, do you notice how the grownups don't feel the need to do that, we do something called debate and even if we disagree with someone we still show them respect, maybe you could give that a go sometime.
If you genuinly think Lucas has been one of our star players this season then you need to come off the medication or perhaps up the dosage, not sure which. Mind you if you are right then that is the most depressing thing I've ever heard, Lucas the best performer at LFC.  :down:  :down:
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:32 am

heimdall wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
DAV wrote:lol i havent felt this bad since souness

well the last time i heard the fans boo a manager like that was when GH got us knocked out by Crystal Palace in the fa cup.2002/2003.

You are :censored: loving this , arnt yeh lakes , your day of glory has arrived. Im :censored: shocked tbh that so many have jumped on the bandwagon of Get Rid. Mind you i shouldnt be really. An im sorry but i agree with Emerald anyone who boos is a :censored: disgrace an i dont care how long theve been going the match or how old they are . This club needs us more than ever, Were being slaughterd by the media were being ripped off by the clampets an in times of need youve got  :censored: fans booin, YOUR JUST GIVING THEM MORE AMMO.
An Lakes have a look at at some of the forums were lads go the match mate , i dont think there shouting for Rafa to be sacked, OTK. TLW, THE RATTLE, THERE GETTING BEHIND THE BOSS AN THE TEAM.
Now is not the time to get rid of Raffa. full stop

An im sorry but i dont care who i upset on here at the mo im :censored: hurting

Stop trying to control every thing they boo'd cos they was upset with the manager who are you to chose what they should do and what they shouldn't ffs we are all human we all love the club and the day a manager comes before our clubs well being is the day I stop following football.I think we as fans have put up with alot from rafa and this can't carry on.

Where are you from, Dazzer? Just a harmless question.

Not really I am sure you use it to have a pop I rather keep it to my self.

How am I going to have a pop, f*ck sake like. Come on, you've called me a few unsavory names already and I've not flinched. If I wanted to have a pop, I'd have done it already. It's not my style.

not your style to have a pop, I almost spat out my Carlsberg when I read that.  :D

I love the way you guys see yourselves as better fans than the 35,000 fans who boo'ed Rafa. Tell me please why it's perfectly ok to boo the owners but not Rafa, I don't quite get that as I think they are both worthy of booing, or are you happy with our results, perhaps you don't see that Rafa has done anything wrong in which case you are very much in the minority.

No, not to call someone a c*nt or d*ck etc etc for no good reason. Don't say I just resort to insults, Heimdall. You know I don't.
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:34 am

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baldricks_cunning_plan wrote:Yeah lets sack Rafa, lets sack the one saving grace we have left in terms of authority at the club.

He's been given a pittance to spend this summer to replace last year's player of the year, as well as the greatest centre half we've had in the Premiership era and one of the most reliable right backs in the country. He sold Alonso for 30 million, since then has spent around 20 on it to try and replace him, wheres the other 10 million gone? That's not including the money he got for selling Arby, Leto, Hobbs, Anderson and Hammill. He's had to sell and even then still isn't given that money to buy back.

He's had a squad that's full of injuries, thanks to our overly kind international schedule. There's not a great deal he can do about that, no matter how much people wanna blame Rafa for it.

His options are limited and he can't just pluck another top quality player out of thin air, quality costs and with those f*****g robbing b******s in charge of the club, Rafa isn't gonna be given the money to buy top quality. He's always gonna be having to settle for second or third best in terms of quality. It's testament to how good a manger he is when you see what he's achieved under such disturbing circumstances.

I'm not talking about the trophies he's won because they were won under the Moores' regime.

I'm talking about taking us to our highest points tally in our history. Yes our f*****g history. The history that has won us 18 League titles, none of those title winning sides won as many points as Rafa Benitez' Liverpool side did last year. I'm talking about constantly fighting the owners for the good of the club, Rafa is the one who wants good for the club and Rafa is good for the club. I'm talking about us t******g United in their own back f*****g yard. In case you missed that game it ended 4-1. Rafa outclassed Ferguson in every department. He outclassed money bags Hughes last year 3-2. He outclassed money bags Scolari. He's outclassed every so called top manager.

And it was this squad (pretty much) and these tactics that set us so well last year. Difference being? That's right dimwits, the players are the ones not performing and without decent f*****g owners giving Rafa the funds he needs, he's not gonna be able to bring in a better class of player. His hands are tied.

But yeah lets sack him and bring in a yes man for those two con artist c***s who claim to be owning the club. You'll only ever own this club by name you pair of t***s, but in spirit the club will always belong to the fans. But they'll bring in a yes man who they can control, Rafa is anything but that and is always fighting our corner for us.

If you want him sacked then you've a f*****g lot to learn about football in general and even more so Liverpool Football Club. Top clubs, and this one especially, don't sack their managers because of a few bad results. Top clubs, and especially this one, are proud to have managers of the caliber of Rafa Benitez and should do everything in their power to keep him as boss.

There's very few top class managers with Rafa's record, dignity, pride, loyalty and class but what the heck, lets just f*****g sack him and bring in Mark McGhee.

Don't sweat it. I've seen about five or six of these so called threads pop up on this forum when we're in a bad spot. Strange how they all seem to disappear while our manager remains each and every time.

If we get humiliated by Manure and then loose to Lyon, both looking very fecking likely at the moment, then he'll be gone, oh my God we'll be loosing a tactical genius who takes off our one attacking option with minutes to go yet curiously leaves Lucas on the pitch.  :Oo:
I've gradually come to the conclusion that you guys are either wums of the highest order or completely fecking clueless about football or maybe both.

I'll bet my left bollock that he wont be even if we do lose.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:38 am

I think the next match is the major factor .... do or die !!
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Postby baldricks_cunning_plan » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:38 am

heimdall wrote:So what is your mental capacity then? Does it really only extend to childish name calling, for shame Baldrick. I love the way you and Lando always call other people stupid, do you notice how the grownups don't feel the need to do that, we do something called debate and even if we disagree with someone we still show them respect, maybe you could give that a go sometime.
If you genuinly think Lucas has been one of our star players this season then you need to come off the medication or perhaps up the dosage, not sure which. Mind you if you are right then that is the most depressing thing I've ever heard, Lucas the best performer at LFC.  :down:  :down:

As I thought, Humpty Dumpty would be better suited for you.

Where, Herpes, did I call you stupid? Please point me in that direction.

Secondly where did I say Lucas was the best performer at LFC? Could you give me a few directions to that one as well?

Thirdly you don't resort to name calling do you, you just throw snide remarks in about medication. Same principal just a different way of going about it.

Fourthly, since you obviously interpret (is that too long a word?) things to say what you want them to, I do strongly suggest Humpty Dumpty for you. As on this forum you seem to get quite a lot a**e above t*t.
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Postby Effes » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:13 am

I was gonna start a thread about "Crunch Time" being this week (starting with Sunderland away)
and the next 3 weeks.

It seriously crunch time, we could only be in the FA Cup by end of November.

It may be a struggle to qualify for next season's Champs League.
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Postby baldricks_cunning_plan » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:25 am

Effes wrote:It seriously crunch time, we could only be in the FA Cup by end of November.

So we're not gonna be in any League of any form before the end of November? God I wish somebody had told me.
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Postby Dazzer » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:31 am

baldricks_cunning_plan wrote:
Effes wrote:It seriously crunch time, we could only be in the FA Cup by end of November.

So we're not gonna be in any League of any form before the end of November? God I wish somebody had told me.

Is that all you can do is take a perfectly good view and doubt and take the pi.ss out of it you small minded little pr!ck go back to robbing grannys you nob and leave the football debate to adults.  :no
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Postby Octsky » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:30 am

I was reading an article ystday then i realized actually we have Kenny Daglish at the club. Do we have Steve Nicol too? Coz the King might, just might be a good caretaker.

The King has been out of the game for many years, won a couple of leagues with us, won it with Blackburn, abused by Celtics and later Newcastle (or was it reversed?). So he may not be the perfect manager but can be a good caretaker whilst Rafa is sack.

I like Sammy Lee, i always feel that he is a good motivator for the lads. so i would love for him to stay and help Kenny.
Every major club have their own crisis, but have they lost 4 in a row? If memory hasnt forsaken me, i dont think so. I also dont think that GH have once lost 4 in a row before.

Anyway, Rafa will be lucky to survive till end of the season, the way i see it, taking in consideration present form, we cant win the league, we cant get 4th place, we cant survive the group stages.

Defeated at the yahoos next match at OT will be the last nail in his coffin. Surprisingly if we win, the title challenge will be on again as we will just lacking 4 points from manyoo.

But i dont see Rafa staying past this season unless we win the league (of coz) or the Champs league (this will buy him some little precious time).
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Postby The_Rock » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:56 am

lakes10 wrote:thers only one manager out there that is fit for the liverpool job.......but i hate him and it will take a lot to win me over if he comes here but i do think with him at our club we would win the prem in 2 years......if that.

:D   :cool: .......

Well that should be for the start of next season.

Only benitez can turn this around and make sure we qualify for next season's champions league......cos only he can figure out how to optimize players like Lucas, Kuyt, Auerlio, Voronin, Ngog.....etc . No other top managers will have these players in their squad let alone the bench.

But we do need a change next season even if we qualify for champ league. We are finally seeing the impact of 5 years of bad man-management. The players are performing as if it doesn't matter anymore. And the buck has to stop with benitez.

Will still support benitez (so no more anti benitez posts from me now on....as by now most in this forum know that i am the biggest anti-benitez fan here as peewee ain't here anymore :p ) and hope he gets us to europe...but that should be the end of the journey for him. He just doesn't have the essential competancies to manage in this league.

Rant over......
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Postby zirgoz » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:03 am

Ok lets all pray that our team lose the next three games, that will help aid rafa's sacking.
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Postby Sarge » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:09 am

we are without a doubt becoming too predictable..

be them sunderland, fiorentina, etc... anyone can beat us to the teeth right now...

definitely time for a new breather...
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Postby Effes » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:14 am

The club cant afford to sack Rafa, so it's a moot point.
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