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[babu]

Ok lets all pray that our team lose the next three games, that will help aid rafa's sacking.

what an absolute total fuck stick you are.

I truly, truly hope you don't go to games.

(card me mods, but I don't regret this)

[puroresu]

We can debate about whether Rafa should be sacked or not but if we lose to the Mancs on Sunday that decision may already have been made. Americans do not have much patience.

Not sure about that.  It would cost a lot of money to sack him and then who would they get in?

[lakes10]

He'll walk before he gets sacked . Can't defend feck all about last night , but i know one thing .If rafa goes and we still have these owners ,we are fecked .We are fecked anyway with the owners we've got ,but i'll make a prediction now If we lose rafa benitez ,things will get much worse .The owners will sell our best players and the new manager whomever the lunatic is will have to work with feck all . Think Leeds utd  it's coming our way imo . If Rafa goes and we keep thes owners.

as i have said many times before, the leeds thing can not happen to us, BOA have always said they will dig the club out if Hicks could not get the RBS loan.

[parchpea]

We can either put Benitez to sleep now or let the suffering continue until he falls on his own sword.Either way he is dead in the water at Liverpool and its now a matter of when rather than if he parts company with the football club.I personally would prefer to deal with it now and move on, but that is not the consenus, so we must wait a little longer and watch it unravel some more until the support really cannot stomach another moment of his tenure.

[Redangel]

I'm as gutted as anyone but sacking Rafa , would be a big mistake .
Who is going to take on the job and put up with all the rubbish that goes with managing this club !! Our two idiot owners are not exactly candidates for boss of the year.
Can't think of anyone who would put up with what Rafa has. That's not to say he's perfect, 'cos he's not , but he loves our club and our city and right now he and the team need our full support ! Confidence is very low, so booing isn't going to help .

Remember YNWA. 

[Dundalk]

Ok so we sack him and pay him off 20 million, then we persuade one of top managers to come to us and try and win the league with a tenner.

Yeah thats really going to happen, he is here to stay (unless he walks) and he will come good

[Dalglish]

I'm a sure this wont go down well but so be it.
We have no first team squad and we have no depth.
Our League campaign is laughable, our european is well a tough one. I hate our owners but when all said and done we sold a perfectly decent right back and signed another who is decent for way over the odds. The other new guy we signed, i dont no if he will be good bad or in indifferent. Irrelelvant, Fact is we bort a guy for alot of money who a fair way into the season has not played a game. I don't care how good he is, when he does get to start we are playing catchup, a game we will struggle to win at. We keep playing the only brazilian with no tallent. We have one striker. We new all this at the start of the season and prayed we had no injurys, well we do and we are FU**ED. Babel voronin ngog young not good enough. I'm mad very mad and RB is to blame.
GET rid

Here's a lesson in why you DON'T come onto a  forum discussion site immediately after a loss in Europe and vent your spleen 

You just end up speaking on emotion and adrtenaline and whilst there may be nothing wrong with that you can lose some of your rationale and pragmatism.


Put it another way Dav , had we secured a 2nd goal as we should have done and gone on to beat Lyon last night would you have posted this thread ? I suspect not.

There's a time and a place IMO and minutes after a disappointing result isn't one of them !

Walk on ...........

[Reg]

Morning all........

[bunglemark2]

Morning all........

We still lost, mate.....

[Reg]

From The Times October 21, 2009

Liverpool's season rests on Manchester United clash Patrick Barclay, Chief Football Commentator

The Queen Mary 2 left Liverpool last night — and who could blame her?

It was a sad occasion at Anfield and the great liner could sympathise with the club that once led Europe: she knows what it is to carry passengers.

When Yossi Benayoun gave way to Andriy Voronin in the 85th minute, it was difficult to tell whether the storm of booing was for the withdrawal of a rare example of class or the appearance of yet another journeyman.

If it were the latter, Voronin paid for what had gone before. Too many of Rafael Benítez’s players, in the absence of Fernando Torres and, for all but 25 minutes, Steven Gerrard, fell short against a team who grew in strength with the realisation that they had paid Liverpool too much respect.

And suddenly the crisis is real. The likelihood is now — and I know we have said this before and been mistaken — that they will fail to reach the knockout stage of the Champions League. This increases the imperative to finish in the top four of the Barclays Premier League and give themselves a chance to make amends next season. But the top four no longer has the look of an oligarchy. Not since Manchester City got rich.

If, of the established quartet, Liverpool prove the most vulnerable to the pride of Abu Dhabi, the implications become even more disturbing. Torres and Gerrard would not fancy the Europa League.

The stakes for Sunday, when Manchester United visit Anfield, were already high. They have been raised. The most successful club England has sent into Europe may face what will be, in effect, a battle against relegation. Still, at least there is the stability of ownership represented by Uncle Sam’s answer to Punch and Judy to sustain the club. Oh, and that sparkling new stadium in Stanley Park. Seriously, there is more wrong with Liverpool than could be solved by replacing Benítez, even if that were wise.

Not that he is above criticism. It is not enough to have a team these days; to thrive at the highest level, you must have a squad. And it must have been all the more galling for Anfield to reflect that the next visiting manager would be Sir Alex Ferguson, who has demonstrated it by being a master of replenishment (and, for that matter, tinkering).

Benítez, since he arrived at Liverpool in the summer of 2004, has never shown the same expertise. True, he tends to work to a more modest budget than the United manager, but where are the sort of inspired signings that

Arsène Wenger, to take a cruelly brilliant example, makes for Arsenal?

There are no equivalents of Denilson, say, or Alexandre Song, attuned to the team’s philosophy and ready to step in when required. Hence, last night, the replacements for Torres and Gerrard were unconvincing. David Ngog, in Torres’s place, has never looked more than vaguely promising. And Fábio Aurélio, although he can be a very useful attacking left back, was not put on this earth to strike from just off the front like Gerrard.

The third stand-in, Martin Kelly, was given a torrid introduction by Aly Cissokho, but at least there was no repeat of the nightmare suffered by Jay Spearing, Kelly’s fellow academy graduate, at Sunderland before he, too, limped off.

Liverpool may yet contrive another Houdini act. Even if they put on one of their better displays at the Stade Gerland, however, there must be a serious doubt that Benítez’s squad has the equipment to meet the high expectations that come with the club’s history.

The loss of Xabi Alonso has left a gap that Lucas Leiva, the young scrapper from Brazil, never had a hope of filling. Sami Hyypia has gone and Jamie Carragher finds it harder and harder to scale the peaks of defensive endeavour that marked past campaigns.

A sense of perspective should be kept. Last season, Liverpool mounted arguably their best challenge for the championship since 1990; they have hardly disintegrated in a summer and, while there is hope of interrupting United’s progress towards that brutally significant nineteenth title, there is life. Everything, then, rests on Sunday.

[Reg]

Morning all........

We still lost, mate.....

No we didnt, we won 3-2 in the 19th minute of extra time like at OT - I scored the winner. 

[andy_g]

Morning all........

mourning all

[Reg]

There's a number 19 outside mate, he's slowed down to give you time to write a quick note.....

[NANNY RED]

I Havin a convo with my other half this morning while in the background SSN were creaming over is it Benitez final days. Texts from fans in Buckinghamshire. Norfolk, Wales, all jumping onthe get rid, An then a text from one lad in Fazakerly backing our manager an admiting this club is in turmoil, an the teams that Rafa put out againd Sunderland an Lyon ,should of been capable of beating them both , Players need to have a hard long look at themselves here , Yes he said Rafa made mistakes but which manager doesnt,
Then my other half said he could see a similar situation media savaging as what they done to Martin Yol. Yous Liverpool fans are gonna regret it he said. Which top claas manager is gonna come in a put up with these two, Do you want a yes man at Liverpool .He said with all the s.it thats going on in the media an from half ar.sed fans he wouldnt be supprised if Rafa walked , then yous will need to worry. He is not a red an all , Then it came on Southgate Sacked , thee ah he said theres you new boss an laughed his head off,

An i agree with him we will be sorry ,

[Greavesie]

I Havin a convo with my other half this morning while in the background SSN were creaming over is it Benitez final days. Texts from fans in Buckinghamshire. Norfolk, Wales, all jumping onthe get rid, An then a text from one lad in Fazakerly backing our manager an admiting this club is in turmoil, an the teams that Rafa put out againd Sunderland an Lyon ,should of been capable of beating them both , Players need to have a hard long look at themselves here , Yes he said Rafa made mistakes but which manager doesnt,
Then my other half said he could see a similar situation media savaging as what they done to Martin Yol. Yous Liverpool fans are gonna regret it he said. Which top claas manager is gonna come in a put up with these two, Do you want a yes man at Liverpool .He said with all the s.it thats going on in the media an from half ar.sed fans he wouldnt be supprised if Rafa walked , then yous will need to worry. He is not a red an all , Then it came on Southgate Sacked , thee ah he said theres you new boss an laughed his head off,

An i agree with him we will be sorry ,

Totally agree Nan, right now we cant trust twit and . we cant trust them to get a decent manager in, not a chance. all that sh!t circulating about Klinsmann shows they havent got a clue