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Postby Sabre » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:08 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:. . . . . halftime at the Ataturk Stadium.

Support and beleive.

Support and believe.

The former is done in the stadium, and the likes of you, Dalglish and Igor do that in my behalf very well, since I don't have the luck to live in your city. Rafa has enjoyed the support of Anfield and I'm sure he'll keep that support when the times are bad.

The latter demand, believe, is something personal. If someone believes the opposite, asking them to believe in Rafa will probably reassure their own beliefs. So don't bother mate.

You know what will happen. If the team does the next 10 games in a good form, and good forms is something that come as unpredictably as blips come, you'll probably be 2 or 1 point off Manchester United, and I'm not picking the best scenario. From there, anything can happen. If we do well, people say I trusted Rafa from moment one. If we don't, people say I always said Rafa is a Spanish waiter. That's football.

In football the results rule, if results are good we'll have lots of Rafa trusters and a few antis asking their right to voice their opinions. If results aren't good we'll have lots of antis and a few pros asking for the right to defend Rafa without being insulted. Myself, I'm tired about discussing about pro and anti Rafa so I'll focus on other things related to the club. Plus, I have my belief in my signature. Enough said.
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Postby Rorschach26 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:23 pm

You know what needs to happen now

Rafa 2 walk up 2 Ferguson in his next press conference, stand on the table, drop his pants & teabag the bacon faced fart, lend him some pubes 2 pick that dirty 20 year old cabbage from between his 2 front chops

ten drag Ronaldo out infront of the cameras, hook up a bunsen burner & cook an egg on his greasy spotty face

YNWA :blues:
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:24 pm

Rorschach26 wrote:You know what needs to happen now

Rafa 2 walk up 2 Ferguson in his next press conference, stand on the table, drop his pants & teabag the bacon faced fart, lend him some pubes 2 pick that dirty 20 year old cabbage from between his 2 front chops

ten drag Ronaldo out infront of the cameras, hook up a bunsen burner & cook an egg on his greasy spotty face

YNWA :blues:

OR

we could beat Chelsea on Sunday, either way works but I think my plan is slightly better  :pirate
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:36 pm

Rorschach26 wrote:You know what needs to happen now

Rafa 2 walk up 2 Ferguson in his next press conference, stand on the table, drop his pants & teabag the bacon faced fart, lend him some pubes 2 pick that dirty 20 year old cabbage from between his 2 front chops

ten drag Ronaldo out infront of the cameras, hook up a bunsen burner & cook an egg on his greasy spotty face

YNWA :blues:

That' really crazy  :D
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Postby WhIpLaSh » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:39 pm

I still believe.

I may be sick to my stomach right now, BUT I still believe...
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:54 pm

Still believe and will support both the managers and players - come on players , show the heart and passion that the fans do and go for it , the fans will be behind 100% and will cheer you to the rafters .

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Postby Effes » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:18 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:. . . . . halftime at the Ataturk Stadium.

Support and beleive.

Ah, so sweet.  :suspect:

The thing is, we cant rely on the other teams plaing Manu U.

We might do well from now on, but they need to slip up against
the likes of Blackburn, Portsmouth, Newcastle.

I cant see it happening.

We had a real chance before we started drawing all those games.

Im a non-believer at the moment.
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:19 pm

thats the killer effes - man utd have got a relatively easy run in now prob bar us arsenal and evertone - the rest they will prob beat - we could end up relying on the BS and arsenal to do us a favour .
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Postby heimdall » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:52 pm

So do you all think that Rafa has been a good manager lately then, do you think he will suddenly change, how will the team suddenly come good seeing as we struggle to create chances against fecking Wigan!!

I support and always have done Liverpool FC but I do not support Rafa, he has :censored: me off far too many times now and I have never been a sheep who follows blindly like GYBS and Leon do Baaahhh!

As for believing we can win the league, get to feck, we have absolutely no chance as long as we have the "inspired" and "genius" managment of Rafa.  :no
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:58 pm

Im guessing Leon created this thread for people to be positive on as opposed to the countless other threads where people can slag off rafa .
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Postby Reg » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:10 pm

The Leon should know this is not the best day to start such a thread.......
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:11 pm

Or maybe it was a good day mate - there is plenty of negative stuff at the moment so a bit of positive stuff would be good . it makes a refreshing change to see someone trying to be positive .
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Postby roberto green » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:23 pm

You just know tho that we will end up winning asgainst Chelsea and then beating Everton it always works like this.It's kind of becoming like Groundhog seasons under Benitez where the same kind of things happen every season
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:24 pm

well hopefully tht will happen and we can hope that the BS do us a favour and then we are definatly back in the mix of things - gotta keep believing
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Postby bigmick » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:30 pm

The support part is unconditional. Thinking that mass rotation from game one is silly, not playing a bloke who you've just paid 20 million quid for when he's just scored two goals in the previous match etc etc doesn't have any effect on your support. You still will the team on, be it via a dodgy stream, a radio broadcast, on the telly or indeed via text. You support the team and the club because you always have.

You might even hope that your misgivings about the methodology are wrong. Perhaps those people who patrol the boards trying to smash any dissent with insults and ridicule know better, maybe they knew the real truth all along. As time goes on though, you kind of come to the conclusion that you were probably not wrong, probably not a gobsh!te, that you didn't need to be inside Melwood to know it wasn't the way to go after all, all these "new" methods. You still support the club, the team and the manager, but you lose hope that you are about to witness a second coming. People throw words around like "legend", and phrases like "tactical genius" around willy nilly, but you don't think you're in the presense of either. Much as you don't like to admit it, you suspect that what you are seeing is an incoherent mish-mash of policy, a muddle through with bluster.

Still they circle you and anyone else each time you voice a worry. When we draw game after game and somebody ventures an opinion that it may one day cost us, they are lambasted. When someone tries to explain that perhaps the league is not the strongest this term, they are laughed at. But still Aston Villa continue their assault on the top of the table, and you wonder how they've managed to improve quite so much. You look and you don't see mass rotation, you don't see record signings being dropped after scoring two goals then being left to rot on the bench, you don't see public contract negotiations, you don't see Carlos Kickaballs being signed from various corners of the World to provide "options" and "possibilities". It appears there are no revolving doors, and you don't hear rants other than trying to tell another club to feck off when they offer 10 million quid for their best player. You see that, and you wonder why things can't be different.

Things can be different, and when they are choose whoever is the manager, I'll believe. Until then, they'll just have to make do with my support from 12000 miles away. Unfortunately as far as belief goes, I stopped believing in the methodology four seasons ago. Perhaps if there had been a single person on here who could convince me that the mass rotation of personel, positions which people play in and the formation is a good idea it might have been different. Similarly, if somebody could have convinced me that this season signing a striker for 20 million quid and then dropping him each time he scores a goal was a good idea it might have been different. Many tried, but ultimately nobody could. The main reason they couldn't is quite simply because they aren't good ideas.

The worst part about it is, they don't even think they're good ideas themselves. One day they'll probably admit that, but thats for them I suppose.

For my part, I'll just keep hoping the team can turn it around I think.
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