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by **metalhead** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:03 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
metalhead wrote:
s@int wrote:
metalhead wrote:We have a huge problem of scoring this season.

form the look of it, I would rather have a 4-5-1 formation now with torres lone striker

Me too mate, I prefer 4-4-2, but not with the players we have available

Keane should be dropped, He hasn't settled well yet, maybe he will do an anelka and play better in the second half of the season or something, but right now he has no confidence what so ever.

You don't drop a quality player who is lacking confidence.

Yes you do, you give him a kick up the @rse by benching him because he hasn't been up to standards.

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:03 pm

Really dissapointed with Keane. If he keeps on missing these types of chances then he should be dropped. :angry:

by **Zidane** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:05 pm

metalhead wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
metalhead wrote:
s@int wrote:
metalhead wrote:We have a huge problem of scoring this season.

form the look of it, I would rather have a 4-5-1 formation now with torres lone striker

Me too mate, I prefer 4-4-2, but not with the players we have available

Keane should be dropped, He hasn't settled well yet, maybe he will do an anelka and play better in the second half of the season or something, but right now he has no confidence what so ever.

You don't drop a quality player who is lacking confidence.

Yes you do, you give him a kick up the @rse by benching him because he hasn't been up to standards.

Rafa has given Keane enough kicks in the :censored:

. This is the first full 90 he's played in quite a while. Maybe he's trying something else to get him going now. I'm not making excuses for Keane either he needs to step it the :censored:

up already. Lucas should not have been starting everyone knows that. That's where our problems started from and this is the result.

by **heimdall** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:05 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
s@int wrote:
metalhead wrote:We have a huge problem of scoring this season.

form the look of it, I would rather have a 4-5-1 formation now with torres lone striker

Me too mate, I prefer 4-4-2, but not with the players we have available

Wtf difference would a 4-5-1 have made, except isolate Torres even more.

The whole team was pretty quiet today. Alonso was the only sub who made an impact.

One of the first sensible posts I've read, really.

So you were happy with our play then were you, what would you have changed? I'm guessing you wouldn't have taken off Irish Keane? If you can't see that we should have started with Alonso and that having 5 in midfield would have meant we actually controlled the midfield then you must have a different interpretation of football to almost everyone else on this thread.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:05 pm

metalhead wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
metalhead wrote:
s@int wrote:
metalhead wrote:We have a huge problem of scoring this season.

form the look of it, I would rather have a 4-5-1 formation now with torres lone striker

Me too mate, I prefer 4-4-2, but not with the players we have available

Keane should be dropped, He hasn't settled well yet, maybe he will do an anelka and play better in the second half of the season or something, but right now he has no confidence what so ever.

You don't drop a quality player who is lacking confidence.

Yes you do, you give him a kick up the @rse by benching him because he hasn't been up to standards.

Who told you that?

by **tubby** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:06 pm

Come on Villa. I think they can win today they have Carew back also!!

by **maguskwt** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:07 pm

bavlondon wrote:
heimdall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I still maintain if Alonso had started the game would have been different. It took 45mins for Lucas to get his act together and even then he was still sloppy at times. Rafa got it wrong today. He got the team lineup wrong and he got the subs wrong to aside from Alonso.

For a genius he sure makes a lot of mistakes doesn't he? Overall this season he has been good, Rafa that is, but the last few games have seen the return of mr unpredictable.

The thing is come the end of the season we dont want to be looking back a shed load of missed points. Already we have Stoke, Spurs and now this to look back on as all games we should have won. We got lucky in the sense that Chelsea didnt win either but Utd can close the gap now. With Chelsea to play Arsenal still there could have been another chance to go further ahead but we have blown this chance. I think it is time to bench Keane and give Babel a run as much as I dont like him.

no team wins every game... if you look at the seasons that man u won, they lost to some pretty crappy teams sometimes with score lines like 3-0, 4-0...

we didn't win but same goes for chelsea...

by **LegBarnes** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:08 pm

Rafa just seems to do his best to play most of his team out of place

Babel striker plays him wide left and take off riera who is better lefty.

Alonso plays as holding but surely he has proved he has far more going forward(IE AM is surely a better place to start more so since gerrard is out of team).

kuyt wide right still don't like it , like him more central.

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but at home to a team that is :censored:

away from home.

Maybe better playing a dimond.

Or maybe even a 4-3-3.

I just don't know what goes through his mind on these type of match days. :Oo:

by **only me** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:08 pm

Lucas/Aurellio/most of the time Arbeloa for me never been liverpool quality - and was it only for Benitz stubbornes which keeps them in the team - Babel and Keane are doing there best to show Rafa he was WRNOG in buying them - which makes Rafa scouting abilites less then medium - we are just not deep enough on the bench and i would love to see some real bargain catches coming our way sometime - Benitz needs help seems he is too proud to ask for it.

by **Octsky** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:09 pm

2 points drop, let chelsea off the hook.
chelsea buggers will be saying the same.
loan lucas to arsenal and send keane to a sport shrink

by **Number 9** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:09 pm

bavlondon wrote:Come on Villa. I think they can win today they have Carew back also!!

I reckon they will get at least a point!
Gonna watch it and pray like f'uck!
Shi'te result for us today but if Villa can get something it wont be TOO bad!

COME ON VILLA!! :buttrock

by **Kash_Mountain** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:09 pm

Zidane wrote:Well we're still top of the league even though we played like . Would have been nice to have won the damn thing we had our chances to. We do this too often though we need stevie back. I'm confident he and Torres are capable of winning us the league if they stay healthy and everyone else does what they have been doing.

We can't rely on Torres and Gerrard all the time. We need the rest of the players to be on top or at least making some sort of difference to enable the goals to come.

With regards Keane, his confidence will be up and running soon, I'm sure of that.

by **Not Too Xabi** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:09 pm

This is what I feared after watching us in the Carling cup. The players on the fringes of the team are not good enough. We have got a great first 11 (12 actually as you've got Gerrard/Masch/Alonso in the midfield to pick 2 from) but outside that, the next tier is awful. Lucas and Babel were abysmal today.

Rafa was effectively gambling that the other players playing around clowns like those two could do enough to get is the win.......after all, it's Fulham at home. Well the gamble didn't pay off and we got what we deserved......a poor draw to a poor side.

Disappointing but not the end of the world. At least the Chavs were held and the Manc have got a reasonably tough game against Villa. Speaking of Villa, this game reminds of that performance a bit.

by **Zidane** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:09 pm

We would have controlled the midfield simply by benching Lucas. It's Rafa's mistake for not starting Xabi we would have ran them off the pitch with him I'm sure of it. Probably would have only scored 1 goal with our luck but it would have been a convincing victory.

This isn't the end of our run that's for sure.

by **redsince2001** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:10 pm

lacked passion ...simple as.

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