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by **GOAT** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:44 pm

Well it looks like brazil are heading out! Two of the biggest favourites going out in the quarters who would have thought it. Looks to be germany italy france and portugal left in it. Ill go for germany, none of these four teams have done anything amazing this tournament though.

by **dawson99** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:54 pm

just wait for the sunday papers, i'll like in work here now

rooney was cheated

the refs cheated

lampard played well

all svens fault

why did jamie c take a penalty

all rubbish. we played poorly. simple as

by **GOAT** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:09 pm

dawson99 wrote:just wait for the sunday papers, i'll like in work here now

rooney was cheated

the refs cheated

lampard played well

all svens fault

why did jamie c take a penalty

all rubbish. we played poorly. simple as

Exactly, all controversy out of the way, we just didnt perform at all in the end then bottled it on penalties and didnt deserve the win, now get over it people, we lost, time to move on to supporting liverpool again

by **Redman in wales** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:47 pm

adamnbarrett wrote:Lampard and Joe Cole have been shite all tournament even though commentators have been licking their ar5es.

lampard has been sh1t yes... but cole ?? no he has been one of the most dangerous players in an england shirt throughout the whole tornament. deservedly man of the match in one game and close in 2 more. he's had a good world cup

by **Dalglish** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:54 pm

You have to say that this World Cup campaign was doomed from the onset.

Taking 4 Strikers when two were injured (Owen and Rooney) and taking a rookie for the "experience" with no intention of playing him (Walcott) was naive in the extreme.

What you have in the England team are very good club players but very average International players (and yes I include Gerrard in that equation) although to be fair to him he was folowing Sven's instructions and it was painful watching him perform as Lampard's gimp

Today against a distinctly under strength Portugal, England didn't start to play until they had Rooney (very silly little boy) sent off for an inexcusable and nasty retaliatory foul on Carvalho (Who amoungst us didn't have tears in their eyes when his feet landed in Carvalho's biscuits !

)

The papers will talk about how we dominated , how we battled etc etc etc but for those who have long ago took off the England blinkers will tell you it's the same old story and the story's worn thin !

by **drummerphil** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:10 pm

I cant believe C Ronaldo did what he did and then winked to a team mate after.In a month he reports back for pre season training with Rooney,Ferdinand,and Neville what a complete tool.I can see a good hiding comng.You dont do that to a team mate.

by **davo_LFC** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:16 pm

LFC #1 wrote:
davo_LFC wrote:portugal wont go any further, both brasil and france would tw@t them.

What do you base that on?

Portugal have been a better side and played better football than France consistently for a few years now, and Brasil are hardly lighting the world on fire. Also, Scolari will know the Brasil team inside out.

I base it on france's performance against brasil.

It doesnt matter if portugal have played better for the last two years, what does that win you in all honesty. France are now playing with the swagger of 98' and the only team thats stopping them is germany. Not portugal.

Portugal did fu.ck all against 10 men for over an hour. Zidane will walk all over them and i will be pi$$ing myself laughing when ronaldo cries at the end like the little pus.sy that he is.

by **shanks72** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:20 pm

onizukaeikichi wrote:i am starting to worry for england even if sven's gone, what about mclaren? i have absolutely no confidence in him

Hate to say it, but my feelings exactly!!

by **adamnbarrett** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:22 pm

Redman in wales wrote:
adamnbarrett wrote:Lampard and Joe Cole have been shite all tournament even though commentators have been licking their ar5es.

lampard has been sh1t yes... but cole ?? no he has been one of the most dangerous players in an england shirt throughout the whole tornament. deservedly man of the match in one game and close in 2 more. he's had a good world cup

Defensively Joe Cole is a shambles. Ashley Cole joins him forward. Joe doesn't pass therefore he loses the ball. Then Ashley can't get back and Joe is too lazy to track back and even when he does like we saw today he defended and miss kicked the ball and sliced a clearence at least 4 times.

What's with all these step overs aswell? They hardly ever come off. When he plays left wing he ends up in the middle. It's too predictable him cutting in. It didn't work against Miguel today. He was awful today as he was against T&T and Paraguay. Fair enough he played well aginst Sweden but performing once every 4 games is not really good enough. Sven saw the light today and took him off.

Also when he cuts in he is put under pressure and forced back and wastes the chance of an attack. When given space Cole is very productive, when marked tightly he is uneffective.

I think we may see more of Downing in the future. McClaren won't be afraid of playing anyone whose club is not in the top 4. Whereas Erikson, rarely plays anyone who is not in the top 4, take defoe and carrick for an example. Downing for Boro especially in the UEFA Cup, defensively and offensively was very good. Being a natural left footer he will have no need to cut inside and he can cover cole.

Cole is a good player but for me he has been very poor and that is why england have come under so much pressure down their left side.

by **Mikz** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:24 pm

well they did get ya to an inch of the world cup semi finals - it cant be that bad.

by **Redman in wales** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:29 pm

adamnbarrett wrote:
Redman in wales wrote:
adamnbarrett wrote:Lampard and Joe Cole have been shite all tournament even though commentators have been licking their ar5es.

lampard has been sh1t yes... but cole ?? no he has been one of the most dangerous players in an england shirt throughout the whole tornament. deservedly man of the match in one game and close in 2 more. he's had a good world cup

Defensively Joe Cole is a shambles. Ashley Cole joins him forward. Joe doesn't pass therefore he loses the ball. Then Ashley can't get back and Joe is too lazy to track back and even when he does like we saw today he defended and miss kicked the ball and sliced a clearence at least 4 times.

What's with all these step overs aswell? They hardly ever come off. When he plays left wing he ends up in the middle. It's too predictable him cutting in. It didn't work against Miguel today. He was awful today as he was against T&T and Paraguay. Fair enough he played well aginst Sweden but performing once every 4 games is not really good enough. Sven saw the light today and took him off.

Also when he cuts in he is put under pressure and forced back and wastes the chance of an attack. When given space Cole is very productive, when marked tightly he is uneffective.

I think we may see more of Downing in the future. McClaren won't be afraid of playing anyone whose club is not in the top 4. Whereas Erikson, rarely plays anyone who is not in the top 4, take defoe and carrick for an example. Downing for Boro especially in the UEFA Cup, defensively and offensively was very good. Being a natural left footer he will have no need to cut inside and he can cover cole.

Cole is a good player but for me he has been very poor and that is why england have come under so much pressure down their left side.

mate you and me are gonna have to aggree to disagree on this one. look at the bbc and sky sports and all the newspaper player ratings. everyone else thinks joe cole has done well in this world cup. he maybe selfish at times, but thats what winger generally are. thats what makes them have the drive to take on players the way they do. alongside rooney, he has been the most dangerous player in an england shirt in this world cup.... see who disagrees with me

by **Dalglish** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:30 pm

drummerphil wrote:I cant believe C Ronaldo did what he did and then winked to a team mate after.In a month he reports back for pre season training with Rooney,Ferdinand,and Neville what a complete tool.I can see a good hiding comng.You dont do that to a team mate.

Christiano Ronaldo ..........What a WINKER

by **hands** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:32 pm

we are liars we are cheaters, but what about the half final in 1966, for what i know the game was supost to be in liverpool, but then the things change and its was in london.

portuguese players have to go the day before to london.

what about that, you are cheaters for 40 years, how do you feel, being like that?

by **weringo** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:34 pm

Dalglish wrote:
drummerphil wrote:I cant believe C Ronaldo did what he did and then winked to a team mate after.In a month he reports back for pre season training with Rooney,Ferdinand,and Neville what a complete tool.I can see a good hiding comng.You dont do that to a team mate.

Christiano Ronaldo ..........What a WINKER

Thanks for that, first smile I've had since 6:30

by **Dalglish** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:37 pm

shanks72 wrote:
onizukaeikichi wrote:i am starting to worry for england even if sven's gone, what about mclaren? i have absolutely no confidence in him

Hate to say it, but my feelings exactly!!

England had an excellent opportunity to appoint a manager with technical ability, proven track record and an understanding of all aspects of the game ....His name is Gus Hiddink but the FA went "safe" and we got Steve McClaren :Oo:

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