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by **red till i die!!** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:48 pm

Relax lads the brenny revolution has just been postponed till wednesday night against carlisle when we will no doubt show our real quality.

by **redshade** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:57 pm

Yup real quality and real character.

by **johnbarnes** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:17 pm

OH and let's not forget.
UEFA may at some point take away 4th place CL qualification because of poor PL performances in their tournament and hand it to Spain!
In 1-3 seasons time 4th CL place may just be a distant memory.
HOW HARD WILL IT BECOME TO QUALIFY THEN?

by **Doeboy** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:41 pm

Can't really have a pop at Rodgers for today's performance but I just wonder if some of our players have lost a bit of faith in him. We seem to lack that verve and spark. Can't put my finger on it but there's a certain flatness about us, even though it wasn't a terrible performance.

by **RedAnt** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:54 pm

Doeboy » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:41 pm wrote:Can't really have a pop at Rodgers for today's performance but I just wonder if some of our players have lost a bit of faith in him. We seem to lack that verve and spark. Can't put my finger on it but there's a certain flatness about us, even though it wasn't a terrible performance.

I know what you mean. Many of these players seem plastic, like actors acting as footballers.
I've never felt so down, even under Hodgson. I'd imagine that's because the owl was booted out quickly. The owners love Rodgers. So does the media. As do the staff, apparently, though I imagine we'll hear a lot of horror stories if n' when he finally gets the boot.
I've said before though that I'm not sure of the wisdom of sacking him now. Rodgers has built this side and frankly it's the poorest I've ever seen. Woy brought in some shyte, sure, but there were good players already here. I'm not sure any manager could do anything now and would be facing a lot of pressure very early on. The majority of these players simply aren't good enough. Maybe only three or four of the first team would stay if a top manager came in.
I and a lot of others knew this was coming. I can't believe FSG allowed this. It's complete amateurism. I know some think that a better manager could make something of these players. But do they have enough faith in them that they'd have a new manager risk a vital good start, trying to navigate them through to January?

by **mart** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:21 pm

RedAnt » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:54 pm wrote:I've never felt so down, even under Hodgson. I'd imagine that's because the owl was booted out quickly.

I never thought i'd defend Woy, but he had fuckall to spend and took over the club in difficult times when we were about to go bankrupt. B-rod has spent huge sums to build his own team and it still isnt any better than woys team.

by **eds** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:44 am

RedAnt » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:54 pm wrote:
Doeboy » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:41 pm wrote:Can't really have a pop at Rodgers for today's performance but I just wonder if some of our players have lost a bit of faith in him. We seem to lack that verve and spark. Can't put my finger on it but there's a certain flatness about us, even though it wasn't a terrible performance.

I know what you mean. Many of these players seem plastic, like actors acting as footballers.
I've never felt so down, even under Hodgson. I'd imagine that's because the owl was booted out quickly. The owners love Rodgers. So does the media. As do the staff, apparently, though I imagine we'll hear a lot of horror stories if n' when he finally gets the boot.
I've said before though that I'm not sure of the wisdom of sacking him now. Rodgers has built this side and frankly it's the poorest I've ever seen. Woy brought in some shyte, sure, but there were good players already here. I'm not sure any manager could do anything now and would be facing a lot of pressure very early on. The majority of these players simply aren't good enough. Maybe only three or four of the first team would stay if a top manager came in.
I and a lot of others knew this was coming. I can't believe FSG allowed this. It's complete amateurism. I know some think that a better manager could make something of these players. But do they have enough faith in them that they'd have a new manager risk a vital good start, trying to navigate them through to January?

You have hit the nail on he head here mate.

If any manager were to come in and have at look at our squad, they would quickly assess the following:

FIRST XI
Sakho
Coutinho
(A fully fit) Sturridge
Clyne

SQUAD PLAYERS
Benteke (hard to fit into a first XI with Sturridge)
Henderson
Skrtel
Mignolet
Firmino
Illori

KEEP UNTIL WE GET BETTER PLAYERS
Ibe
Gomez
Lucas
Can
Moreno
Ings
Illori

WHY ARE THEY STILL HERE? OR WHY WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT HERE?
Lallana
Milner
Allen
Origi
Lovren
Markovic
Balotelli
Flanagan
Enrique
Toure
Bogdan

That's the dire situation the new manager will face once old shinny teeth is booted out.

The problem is that any manager worth half his salt will know this club needs a massive injection of money into the squad not this rubbish 25-27m NET spend the yanks have been spending on average each season, nor the stupidity of purely buying players under the age of 25.

So anyone that thinks Klopp or Ancelotti would consider us a viable destination, think again. :no

by **Reg** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:25 am

Cheer up mate it isn't that bad:

FIRST XI
Sakho
Coutinho
Sturridge
Clyne
Benteke
Henderson
Can
Moreno

SQUAD PLAYERS
Skrtel (too old)
Mignolet (have to accept we aint going to spend a lot on a new keeper)
Firmino (untested but I have my doubts)
Illori
Ings (could become first team)
Gomez (could become first team)

KEEP UNTIL WE GET BETTER PLAYERS
Ibe (fear he's not going to make it)
Lucas (too old)
Bogdan (untested but don't write him off)

WHY ARE THEY STILL HERE? OR WHY WERE THEY EVER BOUGHT HERE?
Lallana (meh...)
Milner (should be better)
Allen
Origi
Lovren (meh...)
Markovic
Balotelli
Flanagan
Enrique
Toure

by **Thommo's perm** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:55 am

I said last week that B-Rod needs a miracle.
I have been on miracle watch and theres none on the horizon...
:no

by **johnbarnes** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:36 am

RedAnt » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:54 pm wrote:
Doeboy » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:41 pm wrote:Can't really have a pop at Rodgers for today's performance but I just wonder if some of our players have lost a bit of faith in him. We seem to lack that verve and spark. Can't put my finger on it but there's a certain flatness about us, even though it wasn't a terrible performance.

I know what you mean. Many of these players seem plastic, like actors acting as footballers.
I've never felt so down, even under Hodgson. I'd imagine that's because the owl was booted out quickly. The owners love Rodgers. So does the media. As do the staff, apparently, though I imagine we'll hear a lot of horror stories if n' when he finally gets the boot.
I've said before though that I'm not sure of the wisdom of sacking him now. Rodgers has built this side and frankly it's the poorest I've ever seen. Woy brought in some shyte, sure, but there were good players already here. I'm not sure any manager could do anything now and would be facing a lot of pressure very early on. The majority of these players simply aren't good enough. Maybe only three or four of the first team would stay if a top manager came in.
I and a lot of others knew this was coming. I can't believe FSG allowed this. It's complete amateurism. I know some think that a better manager could make something of these players. But do they have enough faith in them that they'd have a new manager risk a vital good start, trying to navigate them through to January?

I agree to disagree RedAnt.
The LFC fanbase are highly knowledgable and get respected around the world for being so. A new manager coming in at this time or Xmas would receive a massive long piece of rope not only from the fans but I expect from FSG too. We all know the massive job ahead for any manager. It's with hindsight that we all now know that the person to conduct this massive job is not BR.
WE HAVE TO FORGET THE SEASON B4 LAST and move forward. It is time to rise from the ashes...

by **johnbarnes** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:46 am

eds » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:44 am wrote:
RedAnt » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:54 pm wrote:
Doeboy » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:41 pm wrote:Can't really have a pop at Rodgers for today's performance but I just wonder if some of our players have lost a bit of faith in him. We seem to lack that verve and spark. Can't put my finger on it but there's a certain flatness about us, even though it wasn't a terrible performance.

I know what you mean. Many of these players seem plastic, like actors acting as footballers.
I've never felt so down, even under Hodgson. I'd imagine that's because the owl was booted out quickly. The owners love Rodgers. So does the media. As do the staff, apparently, though I imagine we'll hear a lot of horror stories if n' when he finally gets the boot.
I've said before though that I'm not sure of the wisdom of sacking him now. Rodgers has built this side and frankly it's the poorest I've ever seen. Woy brought in some shyte, sure, but there were good players already here. I'm not sure any manager could do anything now and would be facing a lot of pressure very early on. The majority of these players simply aren't good enough. Maybe only three or four of the first team would stay if a top manager came in.
I and a lot of others knew this was coming. I can't believe FSG allowed this. It's complete amateurism. I know some think that a better manager could make something of these players. But do they have enough faith in them that they'd have a new manager risk a vital good start, trying to navigate them through to January?

So anyone that thinks Klopp or Ancelotti would consider us a viable destination, think again.

MANY managers are up for the job at LFC. WHAT A MASSIVE CHALLENGE...
All the top boys in management have massive ego's and with that comes massive reputations. TOP managers can bring in the right kind of playing staff. Yes it looks bleak when written down the way it appears. But REMEMBER: The bulk of this squad were 3 games away from winning the PL!
2-3 seasoned / experience footballing footballers could change the whole situation again.
BR was tasked to replace SG & LS he couldn't and FSG in hindsight should have helped him i.e John Henry making a noise around Europe and going out to sign 'The Player' himself e.g. Sanchez, because BR wanted him - this is the only excuse I will give BR. If you're gonna sign a young manager then help them in their time of need. Again hindsight.
Regardless of our opinions it's all IFS & BUTS now. Which is why change MUST come!

by **johnbarnes** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:48 am

Thommo's perm » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:55 am wrote:I said last week that B-Rod needs a miracle.
I have been on miracle watch and theres none on the horizon...

Hahaha. Look towards the Rainbow Tommo not the horizon :eyebrow

by **leeroy74** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:58 am

personally I'd feck off 2nd, 3rd and 4th place qualification for the CL, go back to the 'champions' only playing in it.

BR did ok Sunday, the players let us down not BR. If he's realized the hoof it plan didn't work and he's going to revert back to the passing plan we really liked then give him a chance? everyone drops a bollock in their lives, lets see how he rectifies the mistake.

by **RedAnt** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:42 am

leeroy74 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:58 am wrote:personally I'd feck off 2nd, 3rd and 4th place qualification for the CL, go back to the 'champions' only playing in it.

BR did ok Sunday, the players let us down not BR. If he's realized the hoof it plan didn't work and he's going to revert back to the passing plan we really liked then give him a chance? everyone drops a bollock in their lives, lets see how he rectifies the mistake.

Mate, It's Brendan's team. Look at Mignolet. Not good enough. We've known it for ages. Yet there's no serious challenger to his place. Just Boltons freebie reserve 'keeper. What's that about? It's a similar story throughout the side. Last night on MOTD he said we're rebuilding. Rebuilding what? Why has it taken over three years to get these dodgy foundations in place?
Look at what LVG has done with that lot. Fellani! Second in the league! It's embarrassing.
Our club has become a nursery. BR pats players on the back for showing character and honesty and technique, regardless of the performance and result. And then the media pat Brendan on the head for...well I dunno what for. The club has become like some weird cult that the fans aren't even members of. It's all F'd up.

by **leeroy74** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:45 am

Mignolet? his stats prove he is a good keeper. All the clean sheets? all the great saves? the points he won us? so he drops a bollock yesterday and suddenly he's up for axing cos he's dog Sh*t? this is the bit I don't get about some fans. it puzzles me.

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