Job too big for Rodgers?

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Is the job too big for Rodgers and last season was a flash in the pan down to Suarez carrying us?

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:16 pm

Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:45 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:29 pm wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:56 am wrote:What does it matter who we are linked too - it's who we sign and the window isn't open yet

I believe both have improved our squad with more signings to come

We have been linked with Tevez , Gundegon , Mandzukic , Kovacic , plus plenty others - makes no difference.


We have not been credibly linked to any of those players by any reliable sources though.
The players we have been linked to by reliable sources are exactly the players we have brought in (plus Clyne and Benteke).
I admire your optimism mate but personally I have very little faith in our recruitment policy, I think FSG's modus operandi is to finish as high as possible with the least possible outlay, that's not quite the same as going all out for top 4.


Least possible outlay ? How much on players have they spent in the last 4 years since they took over ?! Certainly not a small amount is it

Judging things on players linked with in the press is really trying to find things to be negative about

Every media source is as credible as each other -


Most of our outlay has come from money we got from selling players, our net spend on average under FSG hasn't been anything to write home about.
And are you seriously going to equate the Liverpool Echo with the Metro as a source?
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Postby Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm

Think our net spend since they arrived is around £130mil which is over half our spend since they arrived

The Liverpool Echo isn't the oracle when it comes to posting transfer rumours. Certainly see them print plenty rumours that have proved to be false. Gone are the days were local papers get insider knowledge.

Again you are judging things on rumours and who we are linked too ?! Clutching at straws
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:41 pm

Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm wrote: Gone are the days were local papers get insider knowledge.



Absolute Tosh !

Admittedly much of what is in print is about as valid as your latest observation

However, the best journalists have cultivated and maintain immensely strong links with various staff and players inside premiership clubs. The information they receive may not always be correct as sometimes even their contacts don't always have the full story plus clubs use journo's as much as journo's use them !
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Postby Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:52 pm

woof woof ! » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:41 pm wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm wrote: Gone are the days were local papers get insider knowledge.



Absolute Tosh !

Admittedly much of what is in print is about as valid as your latest observation

However, the best journalists have cultivated and maintain immensely strong links with various staff and players inside premiership clubs. The information they receive may not always be correct as sometimes even their contacts don't always have the full story plus clubs use journo's as much as journo's use them !


Everything is common knowledge know on social media before it gets anywhere near the rags - it's all over the Internet before the print

Whatever is on the back pages on the Monday will be know on the Sunday all over social media

Many Twitter accounts set up announce clubs interest in players well before a journo has it in print

Social media is way ahead of the written rag now
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:30 pm

Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:52 pm wrote:Social media is way ahead of the written rag now


You talk as though those that produce the "written rag" don't have access to the internet

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:54 pm

Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:23 pm wrote:Think our net spend since they arrived is around £130mil which is over half our spend since they arrived

The Liverpool Echo isn't the oracle when it comes to posting transfer rumours. Certainly see them print plenty rumours that have proved to be false. Gone are the days were local papers get insider knowledge.

Again you are judging things on rumours and who we are linked too ?! Clutching at straws


It is just under that, it averages out at about £25m a season which is nothing special considering there are 2 windows a year.
As for trying to equate someone like the Echo's LFC correspondent and some fella churning our speculation on Twitter in terms of being a solid source, well that's just laughable.
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:55 pm

maguskwt » Jun 19th, '15, 03:03 wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:17 pm wrote:The manager is currently holidaying in Marbella and will return to Melwood on July the 6th ,whilst Marsh and Pascoe are in Llandudno  :D
Speaking from a purely personal perspective, if my job was on the line I would be moving heaven and earth to make sure everything was in
place to limit any room for consternation or reprisal from the owners. 



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Postby Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:58 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:54 pm wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:23 pm wrote:Think our net spend since they arrived is around £130mil which is over half our spend since they arrived

The Liverpool Echo isn't the oracle when it comes to posting transfer rumours. Certainly see them print plenty rumours that have proved to be false. Gone are the days were local papers get insider knowledge.

Again you are judging things on rumours and who we are linked too ?! Clutching at straws


It is just under that, it averages out at about £25m a season which is nothing special considering there are 2 windows a year.
As for trying to equate someone like the Echo's LFC correspondent and some fella churning our speculation on Twitter in terms of being a solid source, well that's just laughable.


Nothing special ?! Where abouts do you reckon we are in the spending table in the last 4 seasons - we are spending more than enough to get the required player into the club - the owners have never had an issue with managers etc spending money on players.

Comfortably spending more than most of the league bar a couple teams.
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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:30 pm

But we are selling to make money for these transfers. Either way Rodgers badly messed up last summer in buying "potential" instead of experienced players.. and FSG must have told him he needed to sell in January to have funds for a striker, I'm sure Rodgers wasn't that dumb to realise we desperately needed one.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:34 pm

Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:58 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:54 pm wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:23 pm wrote:Think our net spend since they arrived is around £130mil which is over half our spend since they arrived

The Liverpool Echo isn't the oracle when it comes to posting transfer rumours. Certainly see them print plenty rumours that have proved to be false. Gone are the days were local papers get insider knowledge.

Again you are judging things on rumours and who we are linked too ?! Clutching at straws


It is just under that, it averages out at about £25m a season which is nothing special considering there are 2 windows a year.
As for trying to equate someone like the Echo's LFC correspondent and some fella churning our speculation on Twitter in terms of being a solid source, well that's just laughable.


Nothing special ?! Where abouts do you reckon we are in the spending table in the last 4 seasons - we are spending more than enough to get the required player into the club - the owners have never had an issue with managers etc spending money on players.

Comfortably spending more than most of the league bar a couple teams.


FSG have done a lot of good things, number 1 being deciding to stay at Anfield  :bowdown (I'll always be thankful to them for that) but I'm under no illusions that they are here for one reason and one reason only and that's to make a few quid.
Hence why we spend most of our money on players they think they will make a healthy profit on further down the line.
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Postby Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:35 pm

Where else is the money going to come from ?

We are a self sustaining club that needs to generate funds to spend money on players
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:38 pm

UvS xR4GEx » Jun 19th, '15, 20:30 wrote:But we are selling to make money for these transfers. Either way Rodgers badly messed up last summer in buying "potential" instead of experienced players.. and FSG must have told him he needed to sell in January to have funds for a striker, I'm sure Rodgers wasn't that dumb to realise we desperately needed one.


One would think that, however, he's collecting midfielders like there is no tomorrow. You know the new formations will be no defenders, no strikers, just midfielders covering very position. Gross neglience is what it is from BR.  LFC needed a quality keeper, so BR gets one that is good for the Championship not EPL.  He's making the same mistakes all over again. Probably better to make Ljinders Head Coach, i'm pretty sure he would do the job 100% better, and drop BR to assistant, or even better, drop him back over the border in Swansealand.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:39 pm

Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:35 pm wrote:Where else is the money going to come from ?

We are a self sustaining club that needs to generate funds to spend money on players


Apart from the TV money, the sponsorship deals, the gate receipts, the merchandising and the prize money you mean?
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Postby Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:39 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:34 pm wrote:
Buck Rodgers » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:58 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:54 pm wrote:
It is just under that, it averages out at about £25m a season which is nothing special considering there are 2 windows a year.
As for trying to equate someone like the Echo's LFC correspondent and some fella churning our speculation on Twitter in terms of being a solid source, well that's just laughable.


Nothing special ?! Where abouts do you reckon we are in the spending table in the last 4 seasons - we are spending more than enough to get the required player into the club - the owners have never had an issue with managers etc spending money on players.

Comfortably spending more than most of the league bar a couple teams.


FSG have done a lot of good things, number 1 being deciding to stay at Anfield  :bowdown (I'll always be thankful to them for that) but I'm under no illusions that they are here for one reason and one reason only and that's to make a few quid.
Hence why we spend most of our money on players they think they will make a healthy profit on further down the line.


Every penny earned by the club goes back into the club - they aren't making any money from us until they sell the club

For them to make a profit when they sell would need us to be playing regualry in the CL and a bigger stadium
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:40 pm

Buck Rodgers » Jun 19th, '15, 20:35 wrote:Where else is the money going to come from ?

We are a self sustaining club that needs to generate funds to spend money on players


Off course it's a sell to buy policy, i've been saying that for ages. However, it's a buy to sell policy and the major cause of that is BR. You know it, everybody knows it. He wasted mega millions on rubbish.
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