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i think rodgers is doing a decent job in tough circumstances, lets face it he didnt inherit a club riding high on the crest of a wave, if you analyse our last 2 or 3 seasons a tailspin or a nose dive would be a more accurate description of whats gone on.
i do have concerns about our transfer policy though, we dont seem to be acting like a club hell bent on getting back into the top four to me but how much is that down to rodgers and how much is that down to the owners?
at this moment i have to say i`m a bit underwhelmed by the business we have done so far in this window but as others have pointed out there`s still a long way to go before the season starts. it`s just that after signing 5 players already i think only one or two more will come in, i just cant see us signing 9 or 10 players in a single window.
i just hope the next 2 players that come in will be starting XI type players not squad players or ones for the future.

BR is currently a mid table manager and because he's still young and improving, only time can tell whether he can bring back the glories eventually that Liverpool stands for. No marquee signings because of no CL football and reluctance of FSG to spend heavily but relying on youngsters, well it will take 4 to 5 years for the kids to mature. So looks like we have to wait that long to see any possible glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel and of course those youngsters won't be snapped by CL clubs. If BR can finish at least 7th again, he will keep his job but if he regresses like Kenny did, I am sure he will be gone next May.

Red Focus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:16 am wrote:BR is currently a mid table manager and because he's still young and improving, only time can tell whether he can bring back the glories eventually that Liverpool stands for. No marquee signings because of no CL football and reluctance of FSG to spend heavily but relying on youngsters, well it will take 4 to 5 years for the kids to mature. So looks like we have to wait that long to see any possible glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel and of course those youngsters won't be snapped by CL clubs. If BR can finish at least 7th again, he will keep his job but if he regresses like Kenny did, I am sure he will be gone next May.

there will be many on here that will demand his head if we finish 7th.

babu » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:03 am wrote:

Red Focus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:16 am wrote:BR is currently a mid table manager and because he's still young and improving, only time can tell whether he can bring back the glories eventually that Liverpool stands for. No marquee signings because of no CL football and reluctance of FSG to spend heavily but relying on youngsters, well it will take 4 to 5 years for the kids to mature. So looks like we have to wait that long to see any possible glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel and of course those youngsters won't be snapped by CL clubs. If BR can finish at least 7th again, he will keep his job but if he regresses like Kenny did, I am sure he will be gone next May.

there will be many on here that will demand his head if we finish 7th.

On here maybe, but this place is hardly a good image of what a Liverpool Supporter should be.

SouthCoastShankly » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:28 am wrote:

babu » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:03 am wrote:

Red Focus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:16 am wrote:BR is currently a mid table manager and because he's still young and improving, only time can tell whether he can bring back the glories eventually that Liverpool stands for. No marquee signings because of no CL football and reluctance of FSG to spend heavily but relying on youngsters, well it will take 4 to 5 years for the kids to mature. So looks like we have to wait that long to see any possible glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel and of course those youngsters won't be snapped by CL clubs. If BR can finish at least 7th again, he will keep his job but if he regresses like Kenny did, I am sure he will be gone next May.

there will be many on here that will demand his head if we finish 7th.

On here maybe, but this place is hardly a good image of what a Liverpool Supporter should be.

Agreed, but i'm finding it a common sentiment amongst some of my friends, and you know what? I tired on of reading the debate on here and I just don't have the energy to ask them what the alternative is. I have just unfriended them on facebook.

babu » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:03 am wrote:

Red Focus » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:16 am wrote:BR is currently a mid table manager and because he's still young and improving, only time can tell whether he can bring back the glories eventually that Liverpool stands for. No marquee signings because of no CL football and reluctance of FSG to spend heavily but relying on youngsters, well it will take 4 to 5 years for the kids to mature. So looks like we have to wait that long to see any possible glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel and of course those youngsters won't be snapped by CL clubs. If BR can finish at least 7th again, he will keep his job but if he regresses like Kenny did, I am sure he will be gone next May.

there will be many on here that will demand his head if we finish 7th.

The same as they did with Rafa ( when he was getting 4th ) and the same as they did with Kenny when he was winning us a trophy. If both of them deserved to be sacked for their performance does BR not have to be judged on the same criteria ?

despite not finishing 4th or winning a cup I would sooner have BR at the helm that either of those two.  BR's performance as manager has out shone either of them. Rafas last year he lost the plot, Kenny was living the dream but was never long term. BR gives us stability and he's implementing a style of football he thinks will make us a better team. He's moving us forward. And don't give me all the '7th place finish' bollox cos I'm not interested, we're in a better position now with the direction we're going into than we have been for the last 5 years.

but of course this is just my opinion and not everyones.

What factors can be used to show that BR has "outshone" the two previous managers ?

Why aren't you interested in the "7th place bollox" ? Can that be ignored then ? Why is it ignored for BR yet no one else - what is it that surrounds BR that appears to make him untouchable. If we stay 7th next season - is he still untouchable then ?

Rafa was very wrongfully sacked and sadly some of our own fans were delighted with that.

But Rodgers deserves a fair chance.  He's certainly no Hodgson.

Benny The Noon » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:30 pm wrote:What factors can be used to show that BR has "outshone" the two previous managers ?

Why aren't you interested in the "7th place bollox" ? Can that be ignored then ? Why is it ignored for BR yet no one else - what is it that surrounds BR that appears to make him untouchable. If we stay 7th next season - is he still untouchable then ?

benny, stick your 'factors' mate . I can't be arsed going through it with a dimwit. if you can't see it without 'proof' or 'factors' or people having to draw diagrams for you then your an imbecile.

go away.

Benny The Noon » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:30 pm wrote:What factors can be used to show that BR has "outshone" the two previous managers ?

Why aren't you interested in the "7th place bollox" ? Can that be ignored then ? Why is it ignored for BR yet no one else - what is it that surrounds BR that appears to make him untouchable. If we stay 7th next season - is he still untouchable then ?

Over last season - Scored more goals, won more games, lost less games, finished in a higher league position with more league points.

That is called progress Benoir.

You may choose not to acknowledge it, probably due to your agenda against Rodgers, but for the majority of the rest of us we see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I like Rogers and his style of play.  But I think the owners lack of ambition will eventually cause him to leave. Much in the same way we get players who perform so good they attract attention I think Rogers will eventually get picked up by a big club... or rather a top 4 level club already in Europe.

SouthCoastShankly » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:48 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:30 pm wrote:What factors can be used to show that BR has "outshone" the two previous managers ?

Why aren't you interested in the "7th place bollox" ? Can that be ignored then ? Why is it ignored for BR yet no one else - what is it that surrounds BR that appears to make him untouchable. If we stay 7th next season - is he still untouchable then ?

Over last season - Scored more goals, won more games, lost less games, finished in a higher league position with more league points.

That is called progress Benoir.

You may choose not to acknowledge it, probably due to your agenda against Rodgers, but for the majority of the rest of us we see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Agreed. And I think it's worth persevering with even though there are no guarantees at the end of it; such is the financial restrictions we're in (in comparison to the other 4/5 clubs) no manager would be able to guarantee us with anything. We're almost mimicking the Dortmund model as the next best solution to 'loadsamoney' and chopping and changing your manager every five minutes like Chelsea do in these circumstances is futile in going forwards.

Like you said SCS overall last season, in the league we made some decent progress and of course some won't acknowledge that and that will be an ongoing theme this upcoming season - when we lose, the match thread will be full of the usual trolls and when we win you won't even hear a congratulatory peep from them at the end of the day if we keep getting progress we should be content - realistically.

tubby » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:04 pm wrote:I like Rogers and his style of play.  But I think the owners lack of ambition will eventually cause him to leave. Much in the same way we get players who perform so good they attract attention I think Rogers will eventually get picked up by a big club... or rather a top 4 level club already in Europe.

You could be right there mate, especially as far as owners' lack of ambition.

Good point never the less.

redno7 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:38 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:30 pm wrote:What factors can be used to show that BR has "outshone" the two previous managers ?

Why aren't you interested in the "7th place bollox" ? Can that be ignored then ? Why is it ignored for BR yet no one else - what is it that surrounds BR that appears to make him untouchable. If we stay 7th next season - is he still untouchable then ?

benny, stick your 'factors' mate . I can't be arsed going through it with a dimwit. if you can't see it without 'proof' or 'factors' or people having to draw diagrams for you then your an imbecile.

go away.

Am I also a dimwit, is everyone on this forum? I can't see how Brendan has outshone Rafa either, in fact I can't really see how he's outshone Kenny. Having said that I'm happy to give him another season.
Anyway can you please explain to all us morons how brendan has outshone Rafa, I'm very curious what your criteria are?