Liverpool FC Forum

What you also have to remember is (and some of you will not like this) we are actually building a team to move up the table NOT win the Premiership. If you are really honest we are not challenging Man U Man City or Chelsea.  We are fighting Spurs, Arsenal and Everton to move into the top 4.. then with Champs League we can then go an buy better players again to challenge for 2nd/3rd and then improve again.

Getting into CL is our first task but again to do that we need marquee/quality signings - Arsenal are going to spend big this summer to keep themselves in there - they will buy the quality they think they need. We need to match that recruitment - we need to get the quality into the team.

There is no point going back and talking about the way we used to do it in the 60's - it doesn't work that way in modern football - unless someone can point to it working in the prem in the last 20 years.

Even our most successful period in the last 20 years was on the back of buying quality signings but even then we fell short. Football is now a business - to get the best in football will cost.

Lets not forget we didnt mind buying marquee players in the 70's or 80's or 90's or 00's

yup, our most successful period was under bob paisley where we spent big, kenny dalglish was a british record, graeme souness was a record fee for a transfer between 2 english clubs (and that was just 3 months after we broke the british record on kenny), ian rush was a WORLD record fee for a U21 player, we then broke the club record again on another U21 player craig johnston, mark lawrenson was a british record fee etc etc
obviously all this was funded by getting to 4 european finals in 6 years (and winning them all - 1 uefa cup, 3 european cups) and the fee`s may look modest by  modern standards but back then we were blowing all our domestic rivals out of the water in the transfer market and reaping the rewards.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:16 pm wrote:yup, our most successful period was under bob paisley where we spent big, kenny dalglish was a british record, graeme souness was a record fee for a transfer between 2 english clubs (and that was just 3 months after we broke the british record on kenny), ian rush was a WORLD record fee for a U21 player, we then broke the club record again on another U21 player craig johnston, mark lawrenson was a british record fee etc etc
obviously all this was funded by getting to 4 european finals in 6 years (and winning them all - 1 uefa cup, 3 european cups) and the fee`s may look modest by  modern standards but back then we were blowing all our domestic rivals out of the water in the transfer market and reaping the rewards.

mark lawrenson was £900,000 august 1981 not a record as , for example, other million pound signings in the years prior to Lawrenson we saw;

Trevor Francis notts forest february 1979       1,180,000
Steve Daley      man city      september 1979   1,450,000
Andy Gray  wolves             september 1979      1,469,000

to name but 3 ; there were plenty more ..Liverpool were not the bank busters you would have us believe...we certainly didn't cause a stir with huge transfer fees....Dalglish was an eye opener because we paid £440,000 having sold KK FOR £500,000...this of course was 3 years after Everton paid £350,000 for Latchford so it's hardly ground shaking.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:16 pm wrote:yup, our most successful period was under bob paisley where we spent big, kenny dalglish was a british record, graeme souness was a record fee for a transfer between 2 english clubs (and that was just 3 months after we broke the british record on kenny), ian rush was a WORLD record fee for a U21 player, we then broke the club record again on another U21 player craig johnston, mark lawrenson was a british record fee etc etc
obviously all this was funded by getting to 4 european finals in 6 years (and winning them all - 1 uefa cup, 3 european cups) and the fee`s may look modest by  modern standards but back then we were blowing all our domestic rivals out of the water in the transfer market and reaping the rewards.

we never blew anyone out the water

Rush joined liverpool (£300,000)Clive Allen went from QPR to Arsenal for £1,200,000
clive allen  19  ian rush 18

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/trans ... /transfers

link for transfer records down the ages

We didn't "blow teams" out of the water - but we werent shy spending money getting the best players around.

Our 88 team for example ( best team in my living memory ) was on the back of buying quality players and for big fees ( relative for the time )

lawrenson was a club record fee not a british transfer record, i stand corrected!
the rush fee was a world record for a teenager.
my memory playing tricks on me, then again it was 30 years ago.
`blowing other teams out of the water` was probably the wrong phrase to use but the fact remains we spent as much as anyone to stay at the top.
you reminded me how much forest spent as well, the perception is that clough had success on a shoestring but he spent big on players like francis, fashanu and hartford.

year 1988 was a particularly good year....we did compete we other teams in the transfer market and it was a bit of an eye opener for all us reds fans for us to buy so many players in such a short space of time....but my response was to the assumption that Liverpool from the late 70's through 80's had been the leading force in transfer activity and thus giving us the edge on winning trophies....

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:05 pm wrote:lawrenson was a club record fee not a british transfer record, i stand corrected!
the rush fee was a world record for a teenager.
my memory playing tricks on me, then again it was 30 years ago.
`blowing other teams out of the water` was probably the wrong phrase to use but the fact remains we spent as much as anyone to stay at the top.
you reminded me how much forest spent as well, the perception is that clough had success on a shoestring but he spent big on players like francis, fashanu and hartford.

clive allen was the record 1.2 million

supersub » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:05 pm wrote:lawrenson was a club record fee not a british transfer record, i stand corrected!
the rush fee was a world record for a teenager.
my memory playing tricks on me, then again it was 30 years ago.
`blowing other teams out of the water` was probably the wrong phrase to use but the fact remains we spent as much as anyone to stay at the top.
you reminded me how much forest spent as well, the perception is that clough had success on a shoestring but he spent big on players like francis, fashanu and hartford.

clive allen was the record 1.2 million

i think rush joined liverpool a few months before allen `joined` arsenal

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:05 pm wrote:lawrenson was a club record fee not a british transfer record, i stand corrected!
the rush fee was a world record for a teenager.
my memory playing tricks on me, then again it was 30 years ago.
`blowing other teams out of the water` was probably the wrong phrase to use but the fact remains we spent as much as anyone to stay at the top.
you reminded me how much forest spent as well, the perception is that clough had success on a shoestring but he spent big on players like francis, fashanu and hartford.

I would argue we spent much less than most vying for the top spot until 1988, as benny has indicated

but I would direct to the link for some very interesting and detailed records of transfer fees

www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/transferreko ... /transfers

supersub » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:16 pm wrote:year 1988 was a particularly good year....we did compete we other teams in the transfer market and it was a bit of an eye opener for all us reds fans for us to buy so many players in such a short space of time....but my response was to the assumption that Liverpool from the late 70's through 80's had been the leading force in transfer activity and thus giving us the edge on winning trophies....

of course we spent money, as i`ve just said when keegan left we broke the british record on kenny then 3 months later we  broke the record for a transfer between 2 english clubs when we signed souness from boro. thats hardly being thrifty.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:21 pm wrote:

supersub » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:05 pm wrote:lawrenson was a club record fee not a british transfer record, i stand corrected!
the rush fee was a world record for a teenager.
my memory playing tricks on me, then again it was 30 years ago.
`blowing other teams out of the water` was probably the wrong phrase to use but the fact remains we spent as much as anyone to stay at the top.
you reminded me how much forest spent as well, the perception is that clough had success on a shoestring but he spent big on players like francis, fashanu and hartford.

clive allen was the record 1.2 million

i think rush joined liverpool a few months before allen `joined` arsenal

well it just shows how £300,000 was hardly "a blown out of the water" fee compared to the clive allen £1.2 million