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I think Brendans done an excellent job.

Looking at results. His first 3 games were WBA away and home games to City and Arsenal.

We were very unlcuky against united at home and could have possibly got a point in the away match.

Weve drew with Chelsea and City twice and taken as much points from spurs as they did to us. Everton game we won the game but linesman had other ideas, Strange ideas. Arsenal home we were a shambles but Brendans second home game as Lverpool manager and To be honest players didnt play well. We were also very unlucky and stupid in the away game at Arsenal 2-0 up and we let it slip.

Consistancy has been a factor over the whole league bar united and losing to the lesser teams has been our downfall not this season but seasons previous aswell.

His summer signings have been non existent but January was far better.

Weve all bleated on about the steel in our midfield and the answer has played against us twice. We all know the answer is Diame if we can strike a deal in unknown to us.

Brendan would have had a full season with the squad and will have learned lessons and matured as a manager. Theres statisics about our league form since January and hopefully it can be the signs on things to come.

The Sturridge Suarez Coutinho front 3 we havent really seen much and its one we wont see until the earliest next year now. But Brendan will know where we are weak and ironically its the place we were strongest under kenny, Defence.

Its not going to take a fortune to turn us into a top 4 side again its going to take a few signings and smart ones.

There is much point in buying the likes of Ince and Erikson if they wont improve us.

With Carra retiring and Skrtels future not to clear we know our priority and hopefully this can be addressed although CB partnershi[ps arent bought they are made.

Brendan has his style and Carroll isnt a part of that. I like Andy but I do not believe he has a succesful career at Liverpool in him. So he should be sold for the best deal possible.

4 games to go in this league campaign and hopefully we can finish above Everton and get some European football.

Looking forward to season 2 under Brendan

Excellent job ?

That's laughable truly laughable

The day we are 7th in the table and its deemed an excellent job by the manager is the day we have truly let our standards drop.

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:44 am wrote:Excellent job ?

That's laughable truly laughable

The day we are 7th in the table and its deemed an excellent job by the manager is the day we have truly let our standards drop.

Most would agree that he is hardly doing a bad job, not sure I would say excellent though.

The first season was always going to be hard, especially when Rodgers systems and tactical philosophies were so different from the previous seasons. This was also compounded by a failed transfer window in August.

SouthCoastShankly » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:55 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:44 am wrote:Excellent job ?

That's laughable truly laughable

The day we are 7th in the table and its deemed an excellent job by the manager is the day we have truly let our standards drop.

Most would agree that he is hardly doing a bad job, not sure I would say excellent though.

The first season was always going to be hard, especially when Rodgers systems and tactical philosophies were so different from the previous seasons. This was also compounded by a failed transfer window in August.

He isn't doing a bad job - at the moment he has done an ok job bordering on disappointing IMO

If we finish at 7th then it's a disappointing season and job from BR and would expect big improvements next season.

Excellent job considering where he came from. The fact he is laying foundations for the future. But Benny you wont be here for the future as you would have hopefully fu.ked off

Where he came from is irrelevant - it's what he does at the club that matters and so far that isn't good enough - if you think being 7th in the league knocked out of all cups early is an "excellent" job then the standards of our "fans" have slipped.



I have been supporting the club longer than you have been alive boy so don't talk to me about "won't be here for the future"

LFC1990 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:23 am wrote:Excellent job considering where he came from. The fact he is laying foundations for the future. But Benny you wont be here for the future as you would have hopefully fu.ked off

Where he came from???
So by that logic if I took over as manager next season and we came 15th you'd consider it outstanding as I have no football manager experience. That is some kind of logic my friend!!!

I think he has been ok bordering on *****, certainly not a big improvement on Kenny, who I also didn't rate on his second time as manager. I would bring back Rafa in a hearbeat, he wants the job and has  point to prove plus actually knows a thing or two about football, as opposed to Brendan's YTS learning curve!

Started being a fan since the late 70s when I was living in Liverpool, I've seen and experienced all the successes of Liverpool under Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish. Did you know that at one time, finishing 2nd even on goal difference like the 1988/89 season was a complete disaster? Now can you all see how much our standards have pathetically dropped? Nowadays we're talking about fighting to finish 4th. The club ownership FSG have lost direction of what this great club stands for, that is, to aim to be PL champions every season, something we have not done for 23 years and counting while our bitter enemy have just won their record 20th.

I was disappointed and surprised that BR who had no track record of winning trophies was appointed when Kenny was sacked. Like Hodgson, we were appointing a mid table manager, when will we ever learn from mistakes and to make it even more farcical, Martinez the great relegation dodger was actually their first choice. God knows where we would be in the PL table had Martinez been our manager.

This season finishing 7th is another disappointing season. I am not impressed with BR, but I'm not calling for his sacking yet. If I don't see any significant improvement by May next year, he ought to be sacked esp. if he continues to pick his pet signings in Borini and Allen and going back to Swansea to sign the whole team to Liverpool. I've noticed he has a tendency to sign only players he has worked with in the past with Coutinho being the exception. Now he's eyeing Williams and M.Vorm and probably the whole Swansea squad.

Based on results and results alone... this season is worse than last season.
We have no trophy, no FA Cup final, possibly no Europe next season and we're just one position higher in the league.
We did mediocre in both domestic cups this year and our Europa league run was nothing to celebrate.

But, I think a lot of this has to do with last august - november.  The Carroll situation was an absolute disaster.  Lucas getting injured again was a disaster, Gerrard's form, adapting to the new system. 
It was never going to click straight away.

Since then things have improved an awful lot.  Lucas is back, gerrard in form again, the january signings look really good.
Im far from happy right now but I think we might have some foundations to build on over the summer and Rodgers needs at least another season to see what he can do.   I hope we win the next couple of games and end the season on a high instead of the season fizzling out and maybe dropping a place.

Although I want to see Rodgers get more time, I have to be honest and admit that I have considered that Rafa is available and a part of me would like to see him get a second shot. 
I still have several concerns about Rafa too though.

jacdaniel » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:04 pm wrote:Based on results and results alone... this season is worse than last season.
We have no trophy, no FA Cup final, possibly no Europe next season and we're just one position higher in the league.
We did mediocre in both domestic cups this year and our Europa league run was nothing to celebrate.

But, I think a lot of this has to do with last august - november.  The Carroll situation was an absolute disaster.  Lucas getting injured again was a disaster, Gerrard's form, adapting to the new system. 
It was never going to click straight away.

Since then things have improved an awful lot.  Lucas is back, gerrard in form again, the january signings look really good.
Im far from happy right now but I think we might have some foundations to build on over the summer and Rodgers needs at least another season to see what he can do.   I hope we win the next couple of games and end the season on a high instead of the season fizzling out and maybe dropping a place.

Although I want to see Rodgers get more time, I have to be honest and admit that I have considered that Rafa is available and a part of me would like to see him get a second shot. 
I still have several concerns about Rafa too though.

I also have concerns about Rafa but right now he is by far the best manager we can get, no top class manager would touch us with a barge pole unless they were promised significant sums.
Maybe in 15 years time Rodgers will become an ok'ish manager but right now he is fairly cr@p

Agree with you heimdall. Though Rafa may not be the perfect solution to our managerial problems, he is the best we can have by miles so far. Though I have doubts about FSG and BR, they are both still very new owners and manager and only time can tell whether they will come out good. All I can say is, by their funding and BR's results, signings and tactics so far, I am not at all impressed. They could deliver, there is that chance because they haven't been here that long yet, but all I can say is, if they can bring back the glories, it will take more than 3 seasons at least. In the meantime, we have to settle for mid table mediocrity. But this is only for the fans who are extremely patient. The owners should have appointed Rafa last June, but I don't think they will want him back because they have to justify their appointment of BR. He is their man and let's see how BR will be treated by FSG if he continues to deliver mid table performance and results.

The "Top Class" managers will only manage clubs with an abundance of money.....so if they took on a job like Liverpool , for instance, these "Top Class" managers may fail and therefore lose their status as "Top Class"....meaning it's most probably the money that helps them, or most of them, to attain the "Top Class" status......Benitez on the other hand  is the only manager in the "Top Class" bracket who has actually competed in Europe and won, on a sell to buy budget  unlike the other "Top Class" managers.....

i thought i'd seen it all until last night i saw people on twitter using bayern's hammering of barca as a stick to beat rodgers with. barca have won 84% of their matches this season, have walked the league, and all of a sudden they get hammered by imo the best team in europe this season and as a result tika-taka is now rubbish and the manager is an idiot for wanting to play like that (even though we're nowhere near trying to play like barca and have had more shots than any other team in the league this season).

SouthCoastShankly » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:55 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:44 am wrote:Excellent job ?

That's laughable truly laughable

The day we are 7th in the table and its deemed an excellent job by the manager is the day we have truly let our standards drop.

Most would agree that he is hardly doing a bad job, not sure I would say excellent though.

The first season was always going to be hard, especially when Rodgers systems and tactical philosophies were so different from the previous seasons. This was also compounded by a failed transfer window in August.

Agreed ,while results and standing doesn't show it (and like we witnessed people here would like us to bite our way to the CL) ,the team displayed a much improved form. If it wasn't for abysmal finishing we would be knocking on the CL gates by now. The only major mistake BR made was the Carrol Saga ,but his heart and mind is in the right place. I can see progress compared to the last years form. Some tweaks in the Summer and we should be good to go.

funny how this thread is at the bottom of the page when we won our last game 0-6
if we had lost it 1-0 this would be the top thread in the forum for a week.