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Rodger's plan was derailed when Spurs came in for dempsey and the owners didnt want to increase the bid imo. With dempsey in the side, we would have seen more end product. At least we wouldn't have to rely on two talented but young and inexperienced wide forwards in suso and sterling...

Dempsey wasn't the answer and he still isn't.  There's someone out there we don't know about waiting to pounce at the chance.

Reg » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:31 am wrote:Dempsey wasn't the answer and he still isn't.  There's someone out there we don't know about waiting to pounce at the chance.

I think Samed Yesil will become a major striker for us in a few years time.

I don't know why Rodgers is getting a hard time off some supporters, he inherited a squad with more holes in it than a block of emmental cheese and he was expected to fill all of those holes on just a £30m transfer budget.

Reg » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:31 am wrote:Dempsey wasn't the answer and he still isn't.  There's someone out there we don't know about waiting to pounce at the chance.

Dempsey isn't the answer I agree, but as a wide forward he would have been much more effective than sterling and suso. Not knocking sterling, he has been a revalation, but he is for the future, for now dempsey would be much more established in the position...

Boxscarf » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:41 am wrote:I don't know why Rodgers is getting a hard time off some supporters, he inherited a squad with more holes in it than a block of emmental cheese and he was expected to fill all of those holes on just a £30m transfer budget.

Exactly.  He got a team that finished 8th in the PL minus Kuyt, Maxi + Bellamy.  He's stuck with players like Cole + Downing.
FSG gave money to Kenny and Comolli in the hope of a quick fix return to the CL.  Doesn't matter whose fault it was, but we failed very miserably.

Now it looks like we're taking a more long term approach by signing / playing a bunch of youngsters.
We can only hope they'll back Rodgers in the next 2 windows

they will back him. they might not spunk £100 million up but they'll defo invest each window. This is a long term plan. it'll be fine!

redno7 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:00 pm wrote:they will back him. they might not spunk £100 million up but they'll defo invest each window. This is a long term plan. it'll be fine!

They need to back him in January, every single penny the club has generated from 1st of September to the 1st of January needs to be available for Rodgers to spend because Suarez needs help up top, he's doing it all on his own and I feel it's unfair on him.

there's already some people who want him gone after 10 games which is ludicrous, even though we're actually unbeaten in the last 5 of those 10. if you think it's bad now, 3 of the next 4 in the league are away at chelsea, swansea and spurs so if we do badly in them the voices will get even louder.

he needs two years to get anywhere near where he wants the team to be.

maguskwt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:56 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:41 pm wrote:at the end of last season it was obvious to everyone in football what we were lacking. everyone could see we needed a clinical goalscorer to put away all those chances that we were missing.

are you sure?    you were advocating using Carroll more often FFS. Majority on here were on Carroll bandwagon after he played 2-3 good games out of like 70 and after he had that single good header on international duty. I was one of the few who was asking the club to buy a striker... you lot were like "nooo... we have Carroll"...

BR shipped out Carroll (rightly so... he hasn't exactly set the PL alight with his new team and still is injury prone)... he brought in a young decent striker in Borini... and he was let down by the owners in bringing in Dempsey who can contribute straight away to the team with more goals and build up play than Carroll ever could...

i`ve often said that carroll isnt a great goalscorer, but what he does do is rattle defences, even the best defences.
what i meant was kenny needed to buy someone like huntelaar and pair him up top with carroll, then have suarez in a free role behind the strikers.
i think those 3 would have made a great strike force, i`m sure huntelaar would have scored tons of goals latching onto carrolls knock downs and flick ons. i know he hasnt scored for west ham but he is second in the league in assists.
and kenny kan, i never said allen wasnt good enough, i just questioned the logic of spending £15m on a holding midfielder when we had lucas and obviously needed a striker, i actually said i thought allen was a decent player!
saying that kenny had a decent CM lined up anyway.
when kenny was sacked diame came out in the press and said he was devastated kenny had gone because a deal to take him to anfield was nearly done, kenny going meant the deal fell through.
at the time i was quite dissmissive of diame saying `who is he? is that the best that a club of our stature can sign? a wigan player?` but after seeing him quite a bit this season for west ham he looks a really good player, he`s not unlike viera.
huntelaar and diame would have been just as good as huntelaar and allen.
kenny wasnt a million miles away from a very good side, we created far more chances under kenny than we are under rodgers.

This season was always going to be difficult, I cannot believe the naivety and stupidity of some supporters who thought we'd be challenging for a top four place.

Boxscarf » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:20 pm wrote:This season was always going to be difficult, I cannot believe the naivety and stupidity of some supporters who thought we'd be challenging for a top four place.

with the squad we have we should be, if you gave the likes of ferguson and benitez the squad we finished last season with and £30m to spend i think they`d have us challenging for a top 4 place if not higher.
in fact they`d probably have more than £30m to spend, they wouldnt have let that farce on the last day of the transfer window happen.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:34 pm wrote:in fact they`d probably have more than £30m to spend, they wouldnt have let that farce on the last day of the transfer window happen.

Is this the same Benitez who wanted to replace Xabi Alonso with Gareth Barry and who spent £20m on Robbie Keane? Who sold Arbeloa for a miserly £2m and then wasted £18m on Glen Johnson? Who signed Aquilani for £20m and never played him? Who sold Michael Owen for peanuts and brought in rubbish like Josemi and Nunez? I like Benitez as much as you do, but he wasn't perfect in the transfer market. My views of him in the transfer market is of someone who wasted a lot of money on stop-gaps and rubbish. Who sold good players and replaced them with utter rubbish.

As for Ferguson, he has made a lot of bad signings as well, also what is your obession with United? You're always harping on about them, you sound as bad as an Evertonian harping on about our club.

Don't know why FSG likes to use Arsenal as their role model ie develop an effective youth system, spend less on signing players. That's fine, Arsenal are also one of the big teams in the PL, BUT, there's a but here, when was the last time they won the PL title or any cup competition for that matter? They've nurtured a lot of world class players like Fabregas, RVP only to sell them to top clubs. I wouldn't say we have to follow everything they do, just their strengths.

Also this FSG plan of signing young players under 23 that have resale values. OK, that is cool, but shouldn't we be following manure though I hate to say that, they won the PL 12 times in the last 2 decades? They were daring enough to sign a 29 yr old in RVP and see how he's flying now? If they had adopted this FSG stingy plan, RVP wouldn't be there to score the winner against us and a list of other teams. So if we can get Huntelaar who is the same age as RVP in the next window, by all means go for it please, for the sake of the world.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:34 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:20 pm wrote:This season was always going to be difficult, I cannot believe the naivety and stupidity of some supporters who thought we'd be challenging for a top four place.

with the squad we have we should be, if you gave the likes of ferguson and benitez the squad we finished last season with and £30m to spend i think they`d have us challenging for a top 4 place if not higher.
in fact they`d probably have more than £30m to spend, they wouldnt have let that farce on the last day of the transfer window happen.

No way, I don't think any manager could have doen better with the squad we currently have, there are simply to many gaps being filled by promising but incomplete young players.