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Come to think of it, exactly the same thing happened with Henry and Italy.

Sally Gunnell..oops meant Diego Forlorn was another. Looked ***** until he found the right team.

If Carroll had been bought for £13m and given a proper chance I think we'd have seen a different player.

Which team does Brendan pick to play the Mancs!?

Does he get it right this time, or will we fail to get three points and it be five without a win + be in the bottom three!

I do wonder.

I do wish he would not talk so much about "long term objectives, long term plans, building for the future" etc etc, as it drives me nuts.

What's wrong with talking like that? It's not like there should be any real expectation for him to win anything with this side. He has been shafted by the owners to some extent so is rightly so making people aware that the transition period is not going to happen overnight, or over a season or 2 for that matter.

Personally I think he's a breath of fresh air.

The Hustler » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:31 pm wrote:Which team does Brendan pick to play the Mancs!?

Does he get it right this time, or will we fail to get three points and it be five without a win + be in the bottom three!

I do wonder.

I do wish he would not talk so much about "long term objectives, long term plans, building for the future" etc etc, as it drives me nuts.

You are obviously a fan of the "here and now" and have very little, if any patience.
We know what you will say if we lose then

Thommo's perm » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:46 pm wrote:

The Hustler » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:31 pm wrote:Which team does Brendan pick to play the Mancs!?

Does he get it right this time, or will we fail to get three points and it be five without a win + be in the bottom three!

I do wonder.

I do wish he would not talk so much about "long term objectives, long term plans, building for the future" etc etc, as it drives me nuts.

You are obviously a fan of the "here and now" and have very little, if any patience.
We know what you will say if we lose then

Trust me, he wont get 3-5 years, if results dont go well.

I dont know how some of you have so much confidence and belief in the manager, as he is totally unproven.

We could be in the championship.next season.

The Hustler » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:55 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:46 pm wrote:

The Hustler » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:31 pm wrote:Which team does Brendan pick to play the Mancs!?

Does he get it right this time, or will we fail to get three points and it be five without a win + be in the bottom three!

I do wonder.

I do wish he would not talk so much about "long term objectives, long term plans, building for the future" etc etc, as it drives me nuts.

You are obviously a fan of the "here and now" and have very little, if any patience.
We know what you will say if we lose then

Trust me, he wont get 3-5 years, if results dont go well.

I dont know how some of you have so much confidence and belief in the manager, as he is totally unproven.

We could be in the championship.next season.

Yes we could, which would hopefully persuade "fans" like you to fu'ck off and support man city

every manager we`ve ever had has spoke of the importance of building for the future, rodgers is no different from anyone else we`ve had in that respect.
look at the good young players kenny brought to the club in the late 80`s (fowler, redknapp, mcmanaman etc) with the future in mind and look how houllier spent millions developing the facilities up at kirkby, and lets not forget that rafa brought in 2 coaches from the barcelona set up and signed the likes of sterling and suso.
rodgers seems to have a knack of reinventing the wheel and selling it to the fans as something new and dynamic, it`s like this passing philosophy of his, you`d swear we spent the last 50 years hoofing the ball the way some fans go on.
rodgers isnt the only liverpool manager over the past 50 years that believes in passing football and wants to build for the future.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:06 pm wrote:every manager we`ve ever had has spoke of the importance of building for the future, rodgers is no different from anyone else we`ve had in that respect.
look at the good young players kenny brought to the club in the late 80`s (fowler, redknapp, mcmanaman etc) with the future in mind and look how houllier spent millions developing the facilities up at kirkby, and lets not forget that rafa brought in 2 coaches from the barcelona set up and signed the likes of sterling and suso.
rodgers seems to have a knack of reinventing the wheel and selling it to the fans as something new and dynamic, it`s like this passing philosophy of his, you`d swear we spent the last 50 years hoofing the ball the way some fans go on.
rodgers isnt the only liverpool manager over the past 50 years that believes in passing football and wants to build for the future.

To me, Rodgers is trying to establish some stability based on the philosophy which made us world beaters. We havent had that for years with each manager since KK left trying to stamp their own individual style on our club. All have had some sort of success (except Hodgson) but none have gone back to the basic mantra of LFC: pass and move. Keep it simple and dont give the ball to the opposition. I have faith in Rodgers, more out of necessity than choice, but I think he "gets us" and whatever happens this season, we have to stick with him or face years in the wilderness.

Thommo's perm » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:58 pm wrote:

The Hustler » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:55 pm wrote:Trust me, he wont get 3-5 years, if results dont go well.

I dont know how some of you have so much confidence and belief in the manager, as he is totally unproven.

We could be in the championship.next season.

Yes we could, which would hopefully persuade "fans" like you to fu'ck off and support man city

I think you started supporting Liverpool FC last week or something, or know nothing about the club prior to 2012.

Fans like me    ?? You mean the ones that remember LFC sat at the top of the league, and winning, and Bill shanklys mission to make Liverpool a "Bastion of Invincibility". This club is about winning and success, and nothing else.

Your the kind of fool that would be sat there with a smile on your face if LFC were in the Championship!!

Through thick and thin eh!?

You dumb fool.. 

Thommo's perm » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:05 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:06 pm wrote:every manager we`ve ever had has spoke of the importance of building for the future, rodgers is no different from anyone else we`ve had in that respect.
look at the good young players kenny brought to the club in the late 80`s (fowler, redknapp, mcmanaman etc) with the future in mind and look how houllier spent millions developing the facilities up at kirkby, and lets not forget that rafa brought in 2 coaches from the barcelona set up and signed the likes of sterling and suso.
rodgers seems to have a knack of reinventing the wheel and selling it to the fans as something new and dynamic, it`s like this passing philosophy of his, you`d swear we spent the last 50 years hoofing the ball the way some fans go on.
rodgers isnt the only liverpool manager over the past 50 years that believes in passing football and wants to build for the future.

To me, Rodgers is trying to establish some stability based on the philosophy which made us world beaters. We havent had that for years with each manager since KK left trying to stamp their own individual style on our club. All have had some sort of success (except Hodgson) but none have gone back to the basic mantra of LFC: pass and move. Keep it simple and dont give the ball to the opposition. I have faith in Rodgers, more out of necessity than choice, but I think he "gets us" and whatever happens this season, we have to stick with him or face years in the wilderness.

i think the job came around too soon for him myself, looks a bit out of his depth to me
in his press conferences he keeps giving out mixed messages like one minute `we want to hang on to our best players` and the next minute `every player has his price`, one minute carroll can adapt and the next minute he`s out on loan, he makes statements like `the title challenge starts here` and then a couple of days later he`s saying we wont even get into the champions league for 4 years never mind muster a genuine title challenge. he`s built up a list of those types of contradictions as long as my arm and he`s only been here 5 minutes.
plus what happened during the transfer window was an absolute farce.
results havent been great either, a loss tomorrow and we are looking at possibly the worst start in our 120 year history.
i think there`s a good manager in there somewhere but i fear he has got a lot of mistakes to make and lessons to learn before he is the finished article.
that was always my fear with appointing a rodgers, martinez, lambert type manager.

When I saw him in that documentary on Friday, talking 1 to 1 with the players during training etc, I got this feeling that the players don't take him seriously, or he doesnt fully have the dressing room yet, like Roy Hodgson. He was having a little chit chat with the young lad Flanagan, and it made me chuckle, and I just thought the senior players were thinking "who the hell is this guy" !?

He's done a lot of talking so far, about philosophies, tactics, players etc. I want to see action.

Also, I just wanted to say........I wish a lot of posters in this forum would stop it with all this PITY and COMPASSION for Brendan Rodgers, as if he is a poor little baby lamb, out in the rain and cold, that has lost it's mother!

He is not managing Swansea anymore and living in a bedsit. With this job, comes the mansion in Formby, with Gym, swimming pool,Jacuzzi and Sauna, a kitchen the size of a footy pitch, and a Porsche Supplied by LFC + a Multi Million pound salary.

The real main thing that comes with his job though, is.....PRESSURE! Pressure to get results, pressure to please the fans, pressure to win trophies, and qualify for Champions League and Europe. Pressure of managing one of the biggest clubs in EUROPE, with our history, record and following around the world.

Some of you posters, just don't like CRITICISM !!! You just don't want to hear it, or negative comments.

Brendan knew the pressures when he took the Job, so stop feeling sorry for him all of you.

Kenny didn't get a lot of time, Roy Hodgson didn't get the time, and I will bet any of you 50 Quid, Rodgers will not get the time either, if we don't get the right results.

A lot of you in here, and a lot of LFC fans generally were screaming for Roy Hodgson to get the boot, after poor performances, people going "get him out now!!!!" etc etc. Why should BR be any different if results don't go our way?

Some of you are definately "two faced" .

Jose Mourinho has delivered a damning indictment of Liverpool's current predicament under new boss Brendan Rodgers, insisting the 39-year-old cannot win the Premier League while he remains at Anfield.

Mourinho is a big fan of Rodgers, having worked with the Northern Irishman during his time at Chelsea. The Real Madrid boss rates him as a coach and as a person, but he fears for his future at Liverpool.

The Reds are yet to win a league game under Rodgers this season ahead of Sunday's encounter with Manchester United. And Rodgers has already been introduced to the financial shortcomings of the club after he released Andy Carroll on loan, only to see no new face arrive as replacement on transfer deadline day.

Mourinho sees that situation as indicative of the problems his old colleague faces at Liverpool, and he has ruled out the chance of the Reds winning the Premier League under his stewardship. In Mourinho's eyes, the Merseysiders should lower expectations and give their manager time to spark a change of culture at the club.

"Brendan can't be a champion with that team. He can't make miracles. And it's difficult because expectations are so high," Mourinho told Sky Sports News.

"The reality is that Liverpool are not the best team right now. Not even close. Other clubs are investing much more than they are.

"I hope he has time to build, because if he doesn't have the right players in his hand, it takes more time to build. I think he deserves that and - with time - he will improve them."

Asked who he thought would win the league this season, Mourinho failed to commit an answer, but he did express his admiration for the work done by Arsene Wenger - who continues to build quality teams despite regular departures of his best players.

"Man City have an incredible squad and can make quality rotations," Mourinho said. "Man United are Man United. Sir Alex Ferguson doesn't accept not winning the Premiership two seasons in a row.

"I like this Arsenal team, I like the way Arsene is building the team. I think they can be a positive surprise. I like this team more than the previous season."

Say what you want about the ref, Jonjo or Utd but you can't lay any blame on Rogers after today. He got his tactics spot on and even for large spells with 10 men we were still the better team.

We lost today because a young player showed his inexperience and the ref gave all the decisions to them.