Liverpool FC Forum

friendlyguy33 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:25 pm wrote:I suspect there are going to be huge questions asked of the owners in the next few weeks if things go from bad to worse.

I'm not saying that Kenny would have definitely turned things around but even with the league decline last season two cup finals were still reached and the likes of Carroll became much better as the season finished.

Kenny believed that he could turn the league form around we'll never know that would have happened but the element of continuity that Kenny was beginning to build even if the league form didn't deliver has now gone back to square one with Rodgers coming in. With Henderson and Carroll not making the starting eleven and the likes of Borini and Allen struggling to really much of an impact yesterday it seems to me that we're back to square one again.

What I'm saying is that even if Kenny wasn't the right choice long term surely it might have been better to have given him another year to improve things so that he could have walked away at the end of the third year with the team genuinely challenging again for the top four. That would have enabled someone like Rodgers to put into practice his ideas with a team that was going places.

I feel that by appearing to panic and ditch Kenny after one season the owners effectively have now set themselves up for another back me/sack me situation with Rodgers. It's still very early in the season but the fixtures in the next few weeks are difficult to say the least. Are they going to be brave enough to stick with him come what may if things do get worse?

The next two games against City and Sunderland to my mind could well decide the season they're that critical as I see it.

Kenny Kan » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:21 pm wrote:

the lone wolf » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:02 pm wrote:

only me » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:58 pm wrote:I'm still looking for our anchor this season ,typically it would be Gerrard but as time passes it seems our warrior has run out of energy. So who will it be? who would carry the team on his shoulders? I yet to see one.

There isn't one. Suarez is our talisman for now but for how long only time will tell.

People need to get this s.hit out of their thick f.ucking heads, football isn't about 'Roy of the Rovers' type players, that's a  bonus! We've had that bonus for over a decade now and have taken it for granted (as some of our managers have). Fundamentally the game is about 11 blokes pulling together as a team, it's time people realize this, instead of expecting the next 'Gerrard' to come along. Worry about a core, the spine of the team - not one bloke who has to lump it all on his shoulders and carry the team for the next decade.

parchpea » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:52 pm wrote:Rodgers knows we need goals and so in my opinion they will try hard to move
Carroll out again (and I think he will go this window) or even Agger, to raise
money to buy another forward before the window shuts.

Short of that we need to try and arrange a loan to bolster our attacking
options.

The only people we know who are capable of grabbing 10-20 are Suarez and
Gerrard and beyond that your relying on new boy Borini. I doubt any of our
other players will get close to those numbers which in themselves are not
very high at all.

We have to find goals from somewhere and there is still time before that
window shuts.

lakes10 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:09 pm wrote:Not shocked we lost, only shocked by the size f it, look poor in preseason and did not look that great in the first leg of the EL.
Lots of work needs to be done on this team, the bad thing for Rodgers is we have no easy teams coming up.....is there any easy teams in the prem?

South East Kop » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:38 pm wrote:Reallyconfused.com! Yesterday was a great dissapointment for every one of us, and reading Rogers piece in todays mail, he says there will be many more dissapointments to suffer, as there is 'a lot of work to do'. 

We murdered sides last season playing some great football and kept the ball pretty well.  Yesterday should not be tolerated and there should be no further dissapointments to my mind, not after splashing out 25m so far and seeing the return of lucas.

Greavesie » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:46 pm wrote:

South East Kop » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:38 pm wrote:Reallyconfused.com! Yesterday was a great dissapointment for every one of us, and reading Rogers piece in todays mail, he says there will be many more dissapointments to suffer, as there is 'a lot of work to do'. 

We murdered sides last season playing some great football and kept the ball pretty well.  Yesterday should not be tolerated and there should be no further dissapointments to my mind, not after splashing out 25m so far and seeing the return of lucas.

I think Rodgers' assessment is right, he's never going to come in and stamp his mark in one league game. It's going to take time, he certainly didn't seem phased. Patience young Skywalker

burjennio » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:Have to laugh at how interpretation applies to so much of football, sitting here listening to Paddy Barclay on Talksport say that the ref got those 3 decisions CORRECT yesterday. If Agger has put enough force on Shane Longs back yesterday to knock him over without Long diving Im Muhammad Ali. And how Martin Kelly being pulled back, clearly in front of his defender is adjudged to have been the one committing the foul well, I must be Joe Frazier as well. I cant argue about the Skrtel one because he took so much bloody time dwelling on the ball that Long nipped in and well, he clearly kicked him, though that f*cking wretch went down like being on the wrong end of a snipers bullet yet again.

I think alot of the post match reactions were OTT, the result doesnt reflect the performance up to the point where the tide of the match was wrongly turned against us by an incompetent referee, and if Luis Suarez hadnt been guilty of missing a hat full of chances to get us back in the match the result may well have been different. We'll see how we bounce back from this with a visit north on Thursday then the champions at Anfield in a week.

Reg » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:50 pm wrote:Alright guys, enough said, points all made.

Lets stay cool and assume both the manager and players have learnt from that first game.

No ponit getting worked up and hysterical after one game, theres 37 more to go.

lakes10 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:14 pm wrote:

Reg » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:50 pm wrote:Alright guys, enough said, points all made.

Lets stay cool and assume both the manager and players have learnt from that first game.

No ponit getting worked up and hysterical after one game, theres 37 more to go.

mate i more worried that the owners dont see it that way, we have laods of hard games coming up and if we dont get the results from the start i am not sure how the owners will take it.